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  1. 9 points
    This is being discussed among mods as well. George is the only one that can change anything. I am a watchman and was told that a person must violate the TOS to be reported. That didn't seem to include strange doctrines and those who claim to be Jesus. We are supposed to refute those and minister to the unbalanced people. The biggest problem in my eyes is that new Christians can be swayed by aberrant teaching. The second is the accusing spirit that has taken hold. Satan is the accuser of the brethren. Each of us needs to guard our own hearts and keep right with God. We need to forgive quickly. I am probably one of the people who posts platitudes. But the Word of God is the Sword of the Spirit. And I trust God to apply it to those who will receive it. I also wish we could curb those who have angry accusing spirits, or roots of bitterness. There seems to be a crusading agenda. This is especially true when people are allowed to hijack nearly every thread and insert their agenda. It turns into a rant. This has to be stopped. Some of the people are even popular because their angry accusing spirits attract others of the same ilk. Nevertheless, this is still the best forum I have encountered. Some do nothing to protect their members from vulgar horrid attacks. I have faith that God will persevere here. We all need to spend more time praying about it and remembering that our enemy is not flesh and blood.
  2. 9 points
    I for one am tired of all the "this site is horrible" or "its going to the dogs" or "no ones nice so im leaving" posts. And actually, the last one i like more then the first two. And why is that? Because its whining and complaining. Phillippians 2:14 says to do all things without grumbling or complaining. If You dont like the general environment of worthy, then do something about it-and by that i mean something positive, because grumbling and complaining onpy adds to the negativity of the site...or leave. Thats just my two cents. Take it or leave it.
  3. 8 points
    My daughter is now 7 months pregnant, expecting my second grandson in May. She has been in extreme pain, which doctors now believe is a result of kidney stones. They considered doing surgery a few days ago, but thankfully thought better of it. Asking for prayers to ease her pain, and that the stones pass soon and without too much discomfort. Thanks in advance, God bless.
  4. 8 points
    3 serious situations today. Need for urgent prayer covering please... 1) mom should be having the trach surgery this afternoon. I sure hope I am doing the right thing giving them permission to do this to my mom. I am conflicted on it. 2) I face a confrontation with the nursing home today regarding the negligence I firmly believe was behind my mom's cardiac arrest. I dread this conference because I know it will be filled with their denials and heated anger. But as POA I hope I am entitled legally to an accident and incident report (or at least the chart record of March 9th. ) Pray the truth will come out and they will cooperate with me. 3) The hospital is already pushing me to choose a transition facility for mom. I am worn out by hours upon hours of phone calls from medical personnel. It's so hard to think clear anymore! Pray the right decision is made as to where to place mom.
  5. 8 points
    By Grace alone, through Faith alone, in Christ alone...
  6. 8 points
    We all tend to fall into the trap of pride and the need to be right about things. A trap I fall into many times. It's hard to think about what's beneficial to the forum when someone attacks you. The anger of man does not accomplish the righteousness of God. I can only hope that a refreshing wave of humility causes others to rethink their ways when we come across people we don't agree with and even don't like. It's not that there isn't a place for frankness in dealing with certain situations. But until we can really assess another person's intentions, speaking the truth in love is the way to go.
  7. 7 points
    To all you precious brothes and sisters who encouraged me - thank you! You are all such A BLESSING TO ME!! That's why Worthy is soooo good. mmm.... I won't promise any Nobel Prize winning literature though lol. Maybe something soon.
  8. 7 points
    I'm a newer Christian, I became one about two years ago. I don't go to Church because my husband is an unbeliever. He won't let me take my children to Church but he won't look after them so I can go to Church by myself. This site is the only place that I can talk to other Christians in real life on a regular basis as I don't have anyone in real life to do this with. I used to come to this site more often but as a new Christian I found it hard as a lot of information in posts conflicted so I didn't know what to believe. I've had a lot of time away from this site, instead I read the Bible to see what it says and try my best to figure out what that is. When I come back to this site to see what's happening I see more of the same and then I go away again. I have asked questions in the past and got some good answers from some of you who have posted in this thread. I would appreciate it if you all stayed as if you leave who is going to call out the false teaching. In the past I did ask for a forum or something like that for new Christians but nothing happened. I would appreciate it if there was a section for new Christians that was heavily moderated where mature Christians with sound biblical knowledge could answer questions. I would like more moderators, Watchmen etc. and to know who they are. It would also be good to have moderators in different time zones as if I'm on here in the evening (NZ time) USA is asleep. I have seen false teaching at these times.
  9. 7 points
    Believers get worn out trying to counter all the junk stuff that is around lately. When its limited to outer court, or controversial, its much easier to ignore and just focus on the good stuff. Believers need to be fed, edified, as well as witness to the lost. If its only countering junk posts, then believers will leave. And worthy is starting to see an exodus of folks. My heart aches for the deterioration Ive seen in the past year.
  10. 7 points
    I joined this site in 2003. The only other members that are still here that were here when I joined is Angels4u and George. That's it. And yes, the site has changed a lot. There was a time when false teaching could not flourish. We had false teachers, but they were kept in check due to having a sufficient number of moderators in both the US and across the pond, in Europe, particularly the UK and at least one from as far away as New Zealand. This kept the board pretty much moderated at all times. During the first few years I was member here, WBs had the reputation as being the best moderated Christian message board in cyber-space. In fact, people complained about WBs on other sites due to the fact that we were so well-moderated. They could not get their false teachings to stick because we had sufficient mods to catch and remove those teachings. And we had waves of false teachers that would show up at the same time and basically try to tag-team us from other sites. But they never made in any head-way. And believe me, we had some weirdos. People claiming to be reincarnations of biblical prophets and some even claiming to be Jesus. We had one person who decided to take Paul's metaphor on the members of the body of Christ (hands, eyes, feet, etc.) and expand on that by teaching what it means to be the liver of Christ, the spleen of Christ, the gall bladder of Christ, and so on. I mean, I could fill many pages on the false stuff that had come through here in my early years on this board. What the board needs is more moderators and there are other members that I see on here that would be good at moderation and would hold up for the truth and protect the board from the wolves.
  11. 6 points
    Right now my face feels like it is burning...both my arms went red and warm for no reason...I have had left arm pain for days..it is so sore and heavy. I can’t go to ER because it won’t be any good. Today my fingers felt like they were swelling as they do when I walk..they go splotchy so I know there is some issue with blood flow. Legs and back are in pain...hurts to bend for a long time,,Dizziness and pain when I stand..heart palps when I stand...faint feeling. Legs like jelly for few days..maybe stress. Leg cramps in calves..which is pretty normal for me. Numb neck on the side.. I believe I have thoracic outlet and serious neck issues but no one will test for TOS. Am getting a neck X-ray soon..if that will help in anyway. Had neck issues since July but can’t get MRI...dr said I need an X-ray first but they do lie to me. This is so scary..I don’t know what is going on. Having massive stomach pain too.....stomach feels like it wants to explode every day. Been suffering with chronic pain..sometimes unbearable in multiple areas of my body for at least 1 1/2 years. Seems like fibromyalgia but not because it isn’t muscular type pain..it is stinging, burning, aching and all sorts of aches. Sometimes the stomach pain looks like I’m in labor. I’ve lost weight...still trying.I’ve lost about 12kgs..I’m still suffering with weight loss! I am in spiritual torment with my faith right now as well. I am at a loss at what to do. I’m praying but nothing is working. Something really serious is going on spiritually within me but God is not answering me. This is torment for me. I’m in emotional torment as well. Am I being punished? I did seek out an elder to anoint me with oil but that backfired (for the man who told me to do so) HELP! What is this happening to me! Two years + of weird pain and torment and drs are mostly ignoring me! I’m so alone and not getting answers! what is going on!
  12. 6 points
    The problem isn't the challenging of the false teachings, it's the ignoring the problem of them. What has increased is the ignoring the problem, which only has increased the spread of false teachings in page after page, and thread after thread.The only reason why it's challenged by the few is, if not challenged, the result is 24 pages of unbiblical rants & the twisting of scripture and making the Bible teachings say something it did not say, to mislead those that come to WCF looking to see what Christianity is about. When unity is placed higher then Biblical truth-then Sound Doctrine will be sacrificed.
  13. 6 points
    Through all of this, thanks George, mods, watchmen, and all the others for this is the best site.
  14. 6 points
    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (Joh 1:1) And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. (Joh 1:14) The same Word called God in vs.1 is the same Word that was made flesh in vs. 14. JESUS IS FULLY GOD, FULLY MAN, ...PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
  15. 6 points
    Just because someone believes in Jesus and attends church does not make them a Christian. Even the devil believes in Jesus. Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sister is still in the darkness. 1 John 2:9 So the answer is no. You can not be a Christian and hate another Christian. It shows what their first love is, and it does not seem to be Jesus. I do not know. But know that I am your sister in Christ and I love you. Jesus loves you. You were fearfully and wonderfully made. (Psalm 139:14)
  16. 5 points
    By By Anthony DeStefano There’s no polite way to say it. Atheists today are the most arrogant, ignorant and dangerous people on earth. We’ve all seen how these pompous prigs get offended by the slightest bit of religious imagery in public and mortified if even a whisper of “Merry Christmas” escapes the lips of some well-meaning but naïve department store clerk during the “holiday season.” To cite a few recent examples: Last December, the group “American Atheists” launched its annual billboard campaign with the slogan: “Stay Away from Church—it’s All Fake News.” In February, the “American Humanist Association” became furious when President Trump had the gall to mention Christianity and Jesus Christ without also mentioning atheists—at the National Prayer Breakfast! (How dare he!) And just this month, the “Freedom From Religion Foundation” raised holy hell because the Reverend Billy Graham was laid out in state in the Capitol Rotunda before his burial. Yes, these atheists are loud, nasty, unapologetic and in-your-face. But while their arrogance is annoying, it’s nothing compared to their ignorance. Atheists believe that the vast majority of human beings from all periods of time and all places on the Earth have been wrong about the thing most important to them. They basically dismiss this vast majority as being either moronic or profoundly naïve. What they don’t seem to know – or won’t admit – is that the greatest contributions to civilization have been made, not by atheists, but by believers. (more) http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/20/todays-atheists-are-bullies-and-are-doing-their-best-to-intimidate-rest-us-into-silence.html
  17. 5 points
    My daughter came down with something. She had a sore throat and feels very sick. Please pray she gets well. Thanks all .
  18. 5 points
    My daughter has court tomorrow. She recently recommitted her life to the Lord, but has some charges against her for things that happened before that. Please pray for the judge to have wisdom.
  19. 5 points
    Hi All i went to the doctors today. She told me bronchitis. I have to take a antibiotic. My breathing is bad. So i thank any prayers for me. I need to go back to work. Please pray i get over this quick. Many thanks ! And God bless you all.
  20. 5 points
    Of all times for the family to be at odds with each other...must they pick now when my mom is in a coma, hooked up to life support and needing additional support (namely, that of her family)? We should be rallying around her and on the same page pertaining to her. Instead, there is real dissension. Pray for unity and for God to bring a miracle for my poor mom...
  21. 5 points
    I have been here for many years and I have watched this site turn in such a strange direction, one that makes me wonder what has really happened here. The type of posting that has been going on for awhile now is no more than a lot of platitudes and mysterious statements that mean nothing to the reader, only to the poster. Between this type of posting and the false teaching, there in not much left here anymore. I am really saddened that this site has turned from solid bible teaching to this. God have mercy on this place and the people who come here.
  22. 5 points
  23. 5 points
    Seems many here express a desire to leave if things continue to get worse. I sympathize, to a point. Many here at Worthy I have noticed, no longer belong to a 'traditional' church/body of believers anymore, having made known their dislike/distrust, or inability to attend. As believers, we are all part of the body, with a very distinct function to play in the body. At some point, we have to make a stand. Instead of leaving, we should DO something, as led by the spirit we are praying to for direction, and wisdom, and discernment. The battle is spiritual, and as soldiers for Christ, we need to use our spiritual weapons of warfare. Prayer is warfare! I believe the ladies silver hair platoon of prayer warriors can be the most effective in any body, praying for those in leadership to be clothed in God's armor. Why cannot this be a lesson from God for us to grow, and allow God's promises to enlarge our faith in Him. God is light..........
  24. 5 points
    If she is posting doctrinal material and holding it up as the correct doctrine, then she can expect some scrutiny. That's the nature of the beast. That's how it works. My doctrine gets questioned, too. She would need to be mature enough to accept and deal with it. You cannot have spiritual maturity without doctrinal purity. Doctrinal purity leads to spiritual maturity. So if someone is claiming that "God" did this in my life and we see that it contradicts the revealed nature of God in Scripture, there is a problem. Doctrine is vitally important because doctrine is properly understood as those biblical principles that form the foundation for practical Christian living. Practical wisdom is one thing. We all have practical wisdom. But when someone starts claiming things about God that don't line up with Scripture, then it has to be confronted in this kind of environment.
  25. 5 points
    A local good friend and saint of our Lord Jesus has broken the top of his femur bone. Please pray for this saint's healing. It was the most bizarre "accident". He got distracted while putting on his bowling shoes, chatting enthusiastically with a friend, managed to put one street shoe back on instead of the second bowling shoe. While looking up at the friend and talking as he prepared, the lights on the lanes came on for practice. He jumped up to roll his first warmup,- and went tumbling to his injury when that one street shoe hit the lane instead of sliding like his proper bowling shoe. He is healing so far without surgery, but will be at home on a walker for at least another month. Again the prayer is for this saint's excellent recovery.
  26. 5 points
    Hi all, Kindly and humbly asking for your help through your prayers. All i ask is for humility and discerment. I can not progress with this prideful nature of minr. Deliberately doing things that are not pleasing to God and being a hypocrite for trying to spread the good news to my friends and family when i cant even fix my own problems. Thank you so much Worthy folks.
  27. 5 points
    You've inspired me and piqued my curiosity about what people are really looking at and responding to at this point in time. This took a bit of effort, but I hand compiled the activity on new threads since March 1 (and didn't bother to double check the numbers as I went). It is not comprehensive but what seemed to be the most active stuff. I was happy to see the high level of activity in prayer requests and welcome. This is definitely a "back of the envelope" type of analysis, but interesting.
  28. 5 points
    It was your earlier comment to me about testimonies that made me curious to check this out. I'm an analyst by profession so this only took me a couple minutes.
  29. 5 points
    I've only been here since August 2017. Here are my thoughts and observations (after about 6 hours of writing, deleting, re-writing, re-deleting over the past few days). I think I finally have a helpful post to contribute. 1. There is a solid core community of people here that I've come to respect. This is especially true of the Chat, prayer, and fellowship communities. Sadly, my schedule and activity level right now preclude me from spending much time there. I would not hesitate to recommend this part of the site to anyone... but... 2. I've seriously considered leaving this site because of the potential embarrassment and damage to my reputation of having any association with the conspiracy theories, extreme sectarianism, and manipulative and unspiritual behavior of some of the more prolific and forceful posters on this site. I'm not talking about outsiders and cultists but rather Christians and long-term participants here. I've not recommended this site to anyone because of this nor have I mentioned to anyone that I participate here. The main reason I keep coming back is to help people who are struggling in their walk with God. For the past few months, my participation here has been mostly, "well, let's just take a quick look and see if anyone needs some uplifting and encouragement today" and "well, I suppose I'll do one more post...." Honestly, at times, the main thing that brings me back is just to help one more person before I call it quits. 3. My opinion is that most of the "defending" the faith and truth I see on here is ineffectual. Much of it is reactionary, sinks to the level of the worst type of arguing, uses excessive quantity to make up for lack of quality, and defaults to personal attacks when it is not effectual. To be completely blunt, much of what I see on here is largely a zealous parroting of sectarian indoctrination masquerading as a profound understanding of the essential doctrines of Christianity. There are only a couple people here that I've come to respect greatly on this point and sadly they don't post much. I see little insightful, discerning, and effective cutting straight to the heart of the matter and dealing with it. 4. The solid "salt of the earth" Christian majority here are being browbeaten into submission and withdrawal by a few loud cliques (and I am referring to Christians and "insiders", not outsiders and cultists). If this site is to grow and improve, it needs to value and treasure and encourage good old solid spiritual maturity, experience, and wisdom. There are simply not enough posts that reflect the life experiences of those people who've been solid serious Christians who've come to know God intimately from a consistent walk of decades. Anyone can quote a few bible verses, parrot back their church's indoctrination, quote the latest book or website they read, recite some facts and answers to arguments that they've read, etc., but far fewer people can give solid godly counsel and guidance based on a lifetime of walking with God. On another Christian site that I frequent, one of my favorite posters is an old Greek Orthodox sister in Christ. I often tune her out when she talks about doctrine, but she often has so much practical wisdom to share from having spent decades walking with God coupled with a genuine love and concern for each person she responds to, that I've gained many insights and learned much from reading her posts. She's a person who would have been run off this site. My impression is that some here would probably think it is a good thing that people like her would not be allowed to freely post without being confronted for her each and every doctrinal error. I think that as long as doctrinal purity is valued more highly than spiritual maturity and godliness, this site will reap a sad harvest of a sea of posts dedicated to rehashing centuries of Christian fighting over particular doctrines and ineffectual wordplay focused on being right rather than producing a plethora of posts dedicated to showing what God has done (and is doing) in our lives. The bottom line, does WCF want to be known as a place where people can come and read post after post of what God has done in people's lives, finding years, decades, centuries, and even millennia worth of experiences from hundreds of posters? Can they come here and see plain examples of how to walk with God from people who are doing it and talking about it? Or do we want to be a haphazard cut and pasted and paraphrased collage from a random collection of websites and books dedicated to witch hunting to find the devil who is thought to be hiding in most churches or rehashing arguments and debates that have been going on for decades or centuries? Seriously! What will God use more? A ton of people sharing post after post of the things that they've seen God do in their lives and other people's lives? Or a loud minority presenting a sloppy disorganized mass of apologetics, sectarian bickering, and conjectural polemics that is often lacking in basic Christian behavior?
  30. 5 points
    Wow that was a word in season. I am going through trials lately. I was just feeling down and I read your post. It is really true. God knows we need perseverance for our character. Our image needs to be like Jesus. My trail is I get getting sick. From every month I have bad flus or strep throat or other things. And I take off of work. I am kind of broke from taking off. And I worry about losing my job. But I know others have far worse things. Right now I feel sick my daughter been sick for two days with sore throat and feeling bad. Now I think I have what she has. My stomach hurts my throat feels not right. What is going on this year lol. I have to work tomorrow or we don't eat next week. Trials bring us to God. And we have to trust him. Even if I lost my job and became homeless in the street. I would still trust God with my life.
  31. 5 points
    More and more people are getting on line and finding their `voice.` And there are many immature people out there. However through the many voices, those who are mature are led to help those seeking help. Now that this `difficulty` on Worthy has been voiced then it will behove all of us to seek the Lord as to how we can be more encouraging to others. I personally do appreciate the different ones I see who write helping and praying for others. There is a strong core of faithful (to the Lord) mature believers here, so we need to continue to voice our encouragement to each other and not become discouraged - one of the enemy`s greatest weapons. Marilyn.
  32. 5 points
    I have a man, a part-time pastor, in my Sunday School class who has cancer. He was going in view of a call at a near-by church in December when he found out he has pancreatic, liver, and other cancers. If you know cancer, you know what that means. It's tearing us all apart. He is the fill-in pastor for when our regular pastor is on mission trips, ill, or vacation. He's a wonderful preacher. He has finished radiation and has had 6-8 weeks of chemo. Three weeks ago, he had to leave Sunday School and had to be helped out to the car he was so weak. This morning, he was very cold [It was cold in there] and cried and he and his wife had to leave. Our hearts are breaking. He finds out tomorrow if the chemo is doing any good. I pray for hope. Tremendous hope. I know that chemo can get you to a very bad place physical and emotionally. He and his wife are just so nervous about tomorrow's report. His name is Eddie. Please pray for him.
  33. 5 points
    Hmm Im going to take your suggestion to george and see what he thinks. It might take awhile as he is still in the us touring.
  34. 5 points
    The leave-and-go-to-another-board rational does not work because every board has problems. Worthy might be going through a rough patch, as has happened a couple of times before, but it is not nearly as bad as some other "Christian" boards out there. If everyone just abandons the board the problem is fixed, but only because the only ones left are the ones who want a Hippie Church or want to patent their own new belief. And you find some of the same problems somewhere else. Nothing is gained. The best course of action is to stay and help try and straighten things out.
  35. 5 points
    Actually, theres merit to what your saying and yowm. Yes, absolutly false doctrine should be addressed-but all to often, when these types get on, instead of simply refuting the trolls and moving on, we, and I include myself in this, turn it into a huge debate, where we try to shout down the trolls. all that does is feed them and make us look bad. Something to be said about simply leaving a solid, Biblical refutation, and then moving on and ignoring them from that point on. The Bible can defend itself, let the readers read through and make their judgement, arguing with a troll for 20+ pages will not change their mind.
  36. 5 points
    It was the very point the writer of Hebrews was making... if by law you expect grace then have it! But know this first if ever one violation of law= you are done for eternity as rejected from holiness... most people cannot carry or maintain the weight of all Scripture to reason with only one conclusion as to way, truth and life Eph 2:8-10 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. KJV This is the law that passes not away -we are to be of the essence we are (you either have God within you or you do not)... but if the Hebrew passage applied here-> then anyone who ever once does a work for self that is not good then we become committed to eternal flame of God's wrath without hope! But this is not of Grace but of Law and none can be saved by law for it is an eternal standard that only Jesus alone in His Own body did perfectly fulfill; all others have and will fail or the truth is not in them 1 John 1:8-9 8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. KJV These verses could not even be written if by law or works we are justified for salvation... the passage of Hebrews clearly gives only one conclusion Titus 3:5-7 5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; 7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. KJV We who are born of God through His Grace alone, by Christ alone, through faith alone shall enter into the eternal joy of His Presence forever... Love, Steven
  37. 5 points
    Some don’t have the option of going to church, that is what is being said. This is a site that Christians meet to talk, much like a church. Exactly. How many come here after praying so they can do His will? Remember, if two or more are gathered in His name, He is among them. A church is not a building, but a gathering of His people.
  38. 5 points
    Hi everyone I want to join Neighbor in lifting up the site of Worthy Christian Forums to the Lord and asking for His help to keep this forum going not just well, but brilliantly. I have enjoyed it immensely since joining in late 2016. It has provided a place of fellowship for me, something I needed very much. I have loved being a part of Worthy and meeting some wonderful people. I feel I belong and want to continue to join with the saints in denouncing false doctrine and lifting up the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ our Saviour and Lord. I want to continue to pray for those who need prayer and meet other brothers and sisters from all over this amazing place we call home - temporarily! (Or we are just passing through whilst on our journeys home.) Please everyone, let's get together and praise God for this great place to come for encouragement and fellowship. We need Worthy!!
  39. 5 points
    We need to meditate and memorize this in the good and peaceful times so that we, like Paul, learn to be content in all things and desire zealously to finish the race when trials do come - and they will.
  40. 5 points
    What you're try to teach people is not Biblical Eileen,Jesus never sinned!
  41. 5 points
    Revelation 1:7-8 7 Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen. 8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,”[a] says the Lord,[b] “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty. Isaiah 9:6 6 For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. John 14:6 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. Colossians 1:28-29 28 Him we preach, warning every man and teaching every man in all wisdom, that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus. 29 To this end I also labor, striving according to His working which works in me mightily.
  42. 5 points
    They had aqueducts from Colosse and Hyeropolis. They had cold water from Colosse and hot water coming from Hyeropolis, but both sources ended Lukewarm by the time they got to Laodecia and the water was likely full of parasites by that time. Lukewarm water is where bacteria and parasites thrive and that is what makes people ill from it, which is why Jesus used that imagery. I am also given to understand that ancient people did have a very basic understanding of parasites and germs and understood the need for boiling water to make it fit for human consumption.
  43. 5 points
    No. "If someone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen?" - 1 John 4:20 We were called to love our enemies, how much more our brothers and sisters. "But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you" - Matthew 5:44 Glory to God! Amen.
  44. 4 points
  45. 4 points
    People, please don't leave. There is a solution. Together, we can pray and ask the Lord to find more moderators and watchmen and I could name some of you right now - but of course it is the Lord who will place it on your hearts, if indeed people's busy lives allow them to do this. I am sure we all want Worthy to thrive with correct doctrine, helping iron to sharpen iron, lively respectful discussion, thought provoking questions sending us scurrying to the Word to see what it says. This is what Worthy has done for me - sent me time and again to the Word, seeking to be a Berean! I want to be corrected, too, if I am wrong. Meg, please come back. I would enjoy reading your posts, I am sure.
  46. 4 points
    Christians have been debating (and at times vehemently arguing) the meaning and application of various verses like this for centuries. To get to the heart of your real question and issue, you are loved by God, His mercy and forgiveness is far greater than we often feel and believe. Our sense of trust, confidence, and security in God is something that grows over time. As we consistently walk with Him over weeks, months, years, and decades, as we seen His working in our life and other people's lives, as we become more conscious of His presence in our lives, then our feelings and sense and conviction of trust, confidence, and security grow stronger. A strong faith, trust, and confidence in God is the fruit, result, and consequence of the quantity and quality of the days we spend walking with God. It is something that grows over time. If I want an apple tree in my yard, I am going to have to plant it, tend it, and patiently watch it grow. If I want to have strong trust and confidence in God, I'm going to need to spend time walking with Him and getting to know Him. Real trust and confidence comes from an unshakeable sense of knowing God well and seeing what He does in our life and others' lives. I think a great biblical example is in John 9 where Jesus had healed a blind man. The blind man is under scrutiny from the religious leaders who were seeking to attack Jesus. In the midst of the all the questioning, the blind man simply states, “Whether he [Jesus] is a sinner or not, I don’t know. One thing I do know. I was blind but now I see!” Many Christians try to bypass this process of the growth of faith by trying to convince themselves of things and trying to eliminate doubts on their own. My observation is that all new Christians and those who get serious about following Christ after a time all have times of doubts and a sense of insecurity at times. This is simply due to not having gotten to know God well enough. No amount of someone telling you what particular verses "really" mean (and arguing why someone who disagrees is wrong) will address the core issue of lack of trust and confidence in God from not have walked closely with Him over a long period of time. For every verse that talks about God's forgiveness, mercy, and acceptance of us, there is another verse that talks about God's wrath. When our faith rests in our opinions (and other people's opinions) about what various verses mean and who they apply to, we will experience doubts and questions. When our faith rests in God Himself and what He is doing in our life, we will not easily be shaken. Hang in there. Pretty much all of us (whether we admit it or not), have gone through periods of time where we have doubts and questions about God's forgiveness, mercy, and goodness towards us. The most important thing is getting in the habit of walking with God more closely on a consistent basis. That walk looks different for each of us. We are each unique individuals that God created to reflect His glory in a way different from others. The way God wants prayer, bible reading, being with other Christians, and other such things to look in your life will be different from others. You need to figure out such things as do you pray best in the morning, evening, at night, throughout the day, sitting quietly alone, during a walk, while driving to work? Each of us is different and our situations in life change. We need to learn to walk closely with God in the unique way He intends us to. Remember the apple tree analogy earlier. Our faith is like that tree, as we tend it over time, it grows and starts to produce fruit.
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    Sorry for your group's hurt. Praying for him.
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