James M

I wonder if Jesus came today, and asked us to leave our TV, Computers, cell phone, cars, and jobs; How many of us would do just like the Disciples did 2k years ago?

The most knowledge I have learned about Strongholds was in reading "Free indeed!" by Tom Marshall, it quotes Williams "Do you know that when you habitually offer yourselves to anyone for obedience to him, you are slaves to that one whom you are in the habit of obeying, whether it is slavery of sin whose end is death , or to obedience whose end is right- doing?" In otherwords, that which one obeys one give authority. In Christianity, we obey God,... or we obey Satan ,... no middle ground. I recognize strongholds as things that a contrary to the Word of God, and usually I am reminded of that by a little small voice, and later if I had the salt to disobey that voice feel pretty badly, Convection. I will definately check out the site you supplied You Brother In Christ James M

Eph 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Eph 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Eph 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Eph 6:14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; Eph 6:15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; Eph 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. Eph 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: Eph 6:18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; Eph 6:19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel, Eph 6:20 For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak. I'm a contexts type person, and the Whole Armour is the Question. Ive noticed there is no back plate, so please Submit to God first and foremost so we can resist the Wiles Of Satan, when we turn and run we could be exposing ourselves. The Word is The Truth James M

I like the verses and would like for you to share with everyone what you think about some of them, Please. James

Freind, For those that live as Christians; Like Christ; Satan has no power, except temptation therefore we must test our thoughts. If the thought is not in line with God's Word, than it is in line with the Devil. James M

these two sentences in bold caught my eye. for the first one, i'm rather confused. given the opportunity to praise and worship and talk to your God.... out of spite, you wouldn't take that opportunity because of the reason the opportunity existed in the first place?? where is that rebellion coming from? as for the second, i'm a little confused on that one, too. what do you mean? are you saying God will bless our government.... no matter what? are you saying that, according to God, the government is always "right"? or are you saying God will not let this government fall? if it's any of these, i would disagree. but as far as Church and state being separate, i agree with you. James: i cannot give you specific verses, but i do know the Levites were separate from the rest of the tribes. they didn't hold land, and i'm not sure what kind of voice they had in what happened. there seemed to be different rules and duties regarding the Levites than there were for the other tribes. is that what you're looking for? We are looking for just that, which is written in the Bible, concerning Kings and Preist/ prophets. When these two switch roles what example is given in the scriptures, and what are the results of these actions? These are the verses I would be looking for as bible study on Church and State ( being the same as Preist and Country/ King). This would aid in a biblical understanding of where America is heading in Gods eyes, and I would be very grateful for some aid in finding such examples. I know by reading " The LOST Ten Tribes of Israel ,... Found" by Steven M. Collins that when any individual, family, group, govenment or nation turns away from God that thier fall is immenent, and can't help wondering if its too late for America, and the rest of the FREE world? P.S. Wasn't there an Israelite King smote by God for trying to perform the High Priest duty somewhere in the Old Testament? No it was the sons of Moses. Or was it Aaron. I am most assured that the priesthood was in Aaron. The Levites are interesting, too I'm taking a break from the internet for awhile because I don't want another addiction other than the one's i have overcome so far; Drugs, Alcohol, Pornography, the Occult,... etc. Only by the Grace of God could I have done any of one of these. Thank God Thank God Thank God James M

EDIFING! I do not like to discuss issues in public that others feel is private. That alone is edifying. Btw ... all caps is considered yelling at someone. Sorry my cap lock was on , and I'll apologize for that and anything else that I may have done wrong. I am only here to learn and I must actually read the Bible and a few books that I have, such as Free Indeed and The Blessed Life. I will return on a 2 day basis and surf the site awhile. Thank you everyone for helping me to find the truth and I hope to share that with you again in the future , If not "Caught Up" And I believe we would share it there also. Till then May God's peace be with you all James M

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Can you explain what you mean here? Are you implying that the word of God is not the word of God? Personally, I think you are looking way to hard trying to understand what is very simple. The US, not wanting to fall into the trap of a Government Religion, made it possible for us to worship as we see fit. They did not want the government to tell them how to believe or what church to go to. It really is that simple. Now, today, this meaning has been twisted into a stance that was not the true meaning of the 1st Amendment of the Constitution. Today, those who do nto have a belief in any god, has tried to use this stance of freedom to remove such a freedom. Can you explain what you mean here? Are you implying that the word of God is not the word of God? That Jesus is King( state) and preist (church) goes against Your belief? Personally, I think you are looking way to hard trying to understand what is very simple. If it is so simple Help a blind man see! The US, not wanting to fall into the trap of a Government Religion, made it possible for us to worship as we see fit We worshipped as we saw fit before the USA was born, and who said that the Government and Church should JOIN together? If in ancient Israel God made laws to keep His Choosen People from Joining Church and State , and smote King Uzziah with lepersy when the line was crossed, that is enough for me!!!!!!!! Church should not rule the Government and Government Should Not rule the Church. Personally, I think you are looking way to hard trying to understand what is very simple. The US, not wanting to fall into the trap of a Government Religion, made it possible for us to worship as we see fit. They did not want the government to tell them how to believe or what church to go to. It really is that simple. Now, today, this meaning has been twisted into a stance that was not the true meaning of the 1st Amendment of the Constitution. Today, those who do nto have a belief in any god, has tried to use this stance of freedom to remove such a freedom. THis is far removed from what is today! Biblical NOT! I was seeking BIBLICAL examples Of CHURCH ( PRIEST) and STATE( gOVERNMENT) being seperate in function. Today, has no bearing on what God has said then. You have opened my eyes to Christian censorship and not God.

Truth comes in many forms, Brother. Are you looking for scripture only or are you willing to accept the truth that is outside of scripture? God's truth is the best, Mans truth often misleads. I agree, but looking at your posts, you are not just looking for scripture, but mans ideas about the separation of church and state, so this question need not be answered. Maybe this would answer my question and I must thank you for your sincere hopes that I would look to God's infallable word as the only answer. The words have changed within the 3- 4 millinium that they were originally stated and I perfer God's wording over man's. It is the same Priest/ King or Church/ State, the later being Humanistic. There was a seperation in the word of God, until Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ (Yeshua) came, and He being Our Priest/ King, with the only othe example being Abraham's Melckizedek. We sometimes look in all places to find the answer that the Holy Spirit will show us it the word from God we need to serve the purpose given. Please never forget some of us here are still feeding on milk, and/ or moving on to the meat of the word and still need to grow in the Spirit, some are lost still and trying to find God. Lets not drive the Sheep away by leading them to a cleft and pushing them off, some need help and ask other will not ask, which is worst? With Love (GOD) Your Brother(in Christ) James M Now this Melchizedek, king of Salem and priest of the Most High God, met Abraham when he was returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him. 2Abraham apportioned a tenth of everything to him. He is first

Truth comes in many forms, Brother. Are you looking for scripture only or are you willing to accept the truth that is outside of scripture? God's truth is the best, Mans truth often misleads. Oh Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. John 18:36 I Believe Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Colossians 1:12-14 Father God Has Left His Servants With Mighty Letters of Credence Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God. 2 Corinthians 5:20 And Fully Equips Them With His Firstborn's Own Armory Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; Ephesians 6:10-18 For Kingdom Business Can Be Serious Indeed Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. Matthew 10:34-36 Between Precious Times Of Refreshment And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. Galatians 4:6 >>>>>()<<<<< Be Blessed Beloved Of The KING Love, Your Brother Joe Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work, To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men. Titus 3:1-2 Thank you so much Brother, you remind me of my earthly Brother Thomas who at a very young age tryed to teach me and lead me to Our Lord Jesus Christ, at which time I was Deaf to the word, and enjoyed the worldly things too much, all of which led to destruction ( some Have learn the hard way) Bless you brother for the reminder that God must be first and a complete surrender to His Will ( and to die within our self, on the Cross Daily if neccessary) is the only and true way. May the Lord use you to save and teach many of the lost And bless you with His knowledge and wisdom to apply it His Way With the Love of God To spread the Gospel Heal the Sick and Cast out Demons With Love Your Brother James M

Truth comes in many forms, Brother. Are you looking for scripture only or are you willing to accept the truth that is outside of scripture? God's truth is the best, Mans truth often misleads. I agree, but looking at your posts, you are not just looking for scripture, but mans ideas about the separation of church and state, so this question need not be answered. Maybe this would answer my question and I must thank you for your sincere hopes that I would look to God's infallable word as the only answer. The words have changed within the 3- 4 millinium that they were originally stated and I perfer God's wording over man's. It is the same Priest/ King or Church/ State, the later being Humanistic. There was a seperation in the word of God, until Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ (Yeshua) came, and He being Our Priest/ King, with the only othe example being Abraham's Melckizedek. We sometimes look in all places to find the answer that the Holy Spirit will show us it the word from God we need to serve the purpose given. Please never forget some of us here are still feeding on milk, and/ or moving on to the meat of the word and still need to grow in the Spirit, some are lost still and trying to find God. Lets not drive the Sheep away by leading them to a cleft and pushing them off, some need help and ask other will not ask, which is worst? With Love (GOD) Your Brother(in Christ) James M Now this Melchizedek, king of Salem and priest of the Most High God, met Abraham when he was returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him. 2Abraham apportioned a tenth of everything to him. He is first

Furthermore, neither you, nor the government, has any business telling me or anyone else what our religion can and cannot be. Your attitude is precisely why this amendment is needed. If my religion tells me to run a bank or build someone a house, you have no legitimate authority to stop me. And why shouldn't Christian churches be involved in things like banking and housing if they can exert a moralizing influence on commerce and society in general? Would the economy be in such a fix right now if our banks and mortgage companies hadn't been greedy to the point that they made bad loans? Why shouldn't the church be involved in law enforcement, housing and other secular arenas? Because it's too much like Sha'ria law in muslim countries. If you think crime and greed are not perpetrated by those calling themselves Christians you must have recently relocated from Jupiter. I'm not interested in stopping you from getting this amendment added to the Constitution; you don't have the chance of a snowball in Houston of that happening. By the way, I didn't say ANYTHING about what your religion should or should not be so maybe you need to back up and rethink your ill considered statements above. How so? Suppose you are a Christian and you own a business. Under current federal law you cannot discriminate in hiring so you cannot refuse to hire a non-Christian. If a tattoo-covered, cross-dressing Sodomite applies for a job with your company the law says you cannot refuse to hire him because he is a tattoo-covered, cross-dressing Sodomite and if you do refuse to hire him or even remotely try to tell him about Jesus Christ, he will likely take you to court and sue you for more than your company is worth. So if a tattoo-covered, cross-dressing Sodomite shows up at your door, do you obey man

these two sentences in bold caught my eye. for the first one, i'm rather confused. given the opportunity to praise and worship and talk to your God.... out of spite, you wouldn't take that opportunity because of the reason the opportunity existed in the first place?? where is that rebellion coming from? as for the second, i'm a little confused on that one, too. what do you mean? are you saying God will bless our government.... no matter what? are you saying that, according to God, the government is always "right"? or are you saying God will not let this government fall? if it's any of these, i would disagree. but as far as Church and state being separate, i agree with you. James: i cannot give you specific verses, but i do know the Levites were separate from the rest of the tribes. they didn't hold land, and i'm not sure what kind of voice they had in what happened. there seemed to be different rules and duties regarding the Levites than there were for the other tribes. is that what you're looking for? We are looking for just that, which is written in the Bible, concerning Kings and Preist/ prophets. When these two switch roles what example is given in the scriptures, and what are the results of these actions? These are the verses I would be looking for as bible study on Church and State ( being the same as Preist and Country/ King). This would aid in a biblical understanding of where America is heading in Gods eyes, and I would be very grateful for some aid in finding such examples. I know by reading " The LOST Ten Tribes of Israel ,... Found" by Steven M. Collins that when any individual, family, group, govenment or nation turns away from God that thier fall is immenent, and can't help wondering if its too late for America, and the rest of the FREE world? P.S. Wasn't there an Israelite King smote by God for trying to perform the High Priest duty somewhere in the Old Testament?

The Origin of a WALL of Seperation of Church and State: A lot of Americans really think that there is a clause in either the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution that says that there is a