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More like it's your belief and misunderstanding of God's word, there aren't any conflicting scriptures, just man's inability to understand correctly
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Jeremiah chapter 49 is historical, battles fought long ago, there won't be a millennium on this earth, Jesus returns in fire and final judgment, dissolving this earth by fire Luke 17:29-30KJV 29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. 30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed. Nahum 1:5KJV 5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
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Many claim Jesus will literally return and rule "On This Earth" In A Millennium? Jesus warned his followers against this teaching, Jesus wont be found anywhere upon this earth as many claim The Antichrist will be in Jerusalem, claiming to be Messiah Returned, "Beware"! "Believe It Not" "Go Not Forth" Matthew 24:23-27KJV 23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before. 26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. 27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Revelation 13:13-14KJV 13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. Revelation 19:20KJV 20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
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You Cannot Believe What Jesus Said, And Be Pre-Trib
truth7t7 replied to transmogrified's topic in Eschatology
I believe the two witnesses will be Enoch/Elijah because they never experienced physical death The two witnesses are going to be a replay of Moses/Aaron against pharaoh of Egypt, all plagues as often as they will -
Your responses are tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo long, a Novel In Love, Jesus Is The Lord
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Scripture clearly shows the historical war fought with weapons of antiquity, clothed armour, horses, shields, bucklers, swords, and it names the nation's? Ezekiel 38:4-6KJV 4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords: 5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet: 6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.
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George it's my opinion and belief that (Ezekiel 39:9-10 & 23-25) below is nothing more than "Historical" fulfilled, and simply shows Israel returning to Jerusalem from the Babylonian Captivity long ago "Fulfilled"? The chapter is very descriptive in the "Historical" wooden weapons of warfare that were burned also? Just my observation on the presented scripture Jesus Is The Lord Ezekiel 39:9-10 & 23-25KJV 9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years: 10 So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord God. ---------------------- 23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword. 24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them. 25 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;
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Uriah, I have given my interpretation and belief concerning Daniel's 70 literal weeks, here it is again Daniel 9:24-27, Seventy Literal Weeks Explained "Future"? Daniel's 70 weeks are literal 7 day periods, or 490 literal days. If Daniel meant 490 years he would have written (Four Hundred Ninety Years) Daniel had no restrictions in "Writing" exact numerology as seen below. Daniel 6:1KJV It pleased Darius to set over the kingdom an hundred and twenty princes, which should be over the whole kingdom; Daniel 8:14KJV And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed. Daniel 12:11KJV And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. Below in Daniel 10:2-3 we see just another example of Daniel's literal weeks, as Daniel mourned and fasted for 3 literal weeks or 21 days. Daniel 10:2-3KJV 2 In those days I Daniel was mourning three full weeks. 3 I ate no pleasant bread, neither came flesh nor wine in my mouth, neither did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled. Below in Daniel 9:24-27 we see 70 literal "Future" weeks or 490 days. When the "Future" call/commandment goes out in Jerusalem to build unto the Jewish Meshiach/Messiah that they wait for (They Denied Jesus Christ) this will start the 7 week period in preparing to build. 62 literal weeks will be in building, and Meshiach/Messiah will be cut off by the armies surrounding Jerusalem, this stops the building. The 70th literal week will see (The Antichrist) revealed in making a covenant, and in the middle of this literal week he proclaims to be Meshiach/Messiah God to the Jews, and Jesus returned to the apostate church, to start a Millennium on earth. The 3.5 year tribulation starts at this time. Daniel 9:24-27KJV 24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. 25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
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Are we still waiting for Daniel to be raised from the dead and change "Seventy Weeks" to "Four Hundred Ninety Years"?
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Your city new Jerusalem is a pyramid with the all seeing eye, freemasonry would be proud of your claims Your Avatar really has me convinced "Not"
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We Disagree Daniel's 70 weeks are literal 7 day periods, or 490 literal days. If Daniel meant 490 years he would have written (Four Hundred Ninety Years) Daniel had no restrictions in "Writing" exact numerology as previously shown Jesus Is The Lord
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It's my belief the 1260 days of the two witnesses, and the 42 months of the beast are parallel times frames totaling a 3.5 year tribulation, and not continous or chronological in a 7 year tribulation as taught in dispensationalism You will closely note the two witnesses in Revelation 11 are present on earth to the final hours in the 7th trump My belief concerning Daniel's 70 weeks Daniel 9:24-27, Seventy Literal Weeks Explained "Future"? Daniel's 70 weeks are literal 7 day periods, or 490 literal days. If Daniel meant 490 years he would have written (Four Hundred Ninety Years) Daniel had no restrictions in "Writing" exact numerology as seen below. Daniel 6:1KJV It pleased Darius to set over the kingdom an hundred and twenty princes, which should be over the whole kingdom; Daniel 8:14KJV And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed. Daniel 12:11KJV And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. Below in Daniel 10:2-3 we see just another example of Daniel's literal weeks, as Daniel mourned and fasted for 3 literal weeks or 21 days. Daniel 10:2-3KJV 2 In those days I Daniel was mourning three full weeks. 3 I ate no pleasant bread, neither came flesh nor wine in my mouth, neither did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled. Below in Daniel 9:24-27 we see 70 literal "Future" weeks or 490 days. When the "Future" call/commandment goes out in Jerusalem to build unto the Jewish Meshiach/Messiah that they wait for (They Denied Jesus Christ) this will start the 7 week period in preparing to build. 62 literal weeks will be in building, and Meshiach/Messiah will be cut off by the armies surrounding Jerusalem, this stops the building. The 70th literal week will see (The Antichrist) revealed in making a covenant, and in the middle of this literal week he proclaims to be Meshiach/Messiah God to the Jews, and Jesus returned to the apostate church, to start a Millennium on earth. The 3.5 year tribulation starts at this time. Daniel 9:24-27KJV 24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. 25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
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We Disagree No such thing as a future literal 1,000 year millennial kingdom on this earth found in scripture, its a fabricated fairy tale of man Revelation 20:1-6 doesn't show a kingdom on earth, with mortal humans running about, it's 100% spiritual realm, Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ Millennialist use the words "Thousand Years" in Revelation 20:4-6, then jump off into the old testament chapters that show the "Eternal Kingdom" in the New Heaven and Earth, and Millennialist falsely claim its their 1,000 year kingdom "Wrong" Examples: Isaiah chapters 11 & 65, Ezekiel chapter 47, Zechariah chapter 14, these all represent the "Eternal Kingdom" not a Millennial Kingdom on this earth as claimed In Love, Jesus Is The Lord
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I believe Revelation 11 (Enoch/Elijah) will be the two witnesses, the future literal prophets returned, they will be present the entire time of the 3.5 year tribulation before "The Beast" who will be a human man, a king/ruler of Jewish/Hebrew decent I believe the plagues brought upon the world as seen in the Revelation are literal, and will be brought at their spoken words as they stand before "The Beast", a complete remake of Moses/Aaron against Pharaoh of Egypt
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We Disagree, the future "Glorified" bodily resurrection, is a foundational pillar in Christian orthodoxy and faith PS: The Glorified body received, will be in the New Heaven and Earth, after this earth is dissolved by fire in final judgement at the Lord's return, 2 Peter 3:10-13, Revelation 21:1-5 1 John 3:2KJV 2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. Luke 24:39KJV 39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. 1 Corinthians 15:12-20KJV 12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: 14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. 15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not. 16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: 17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. 18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. 19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable. 20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
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Thanks for the response! We Disagree, the book of Revelation is taught in "Parallel" teachings of same events Revelation 11:18 & Revelation 20:11-15 is the very same final judgement in parallel teachings Revelation chapters 16, 19, 20, show the very same final battle in parallel teachings The 7th vial & the 7th Trump are parallel teachings of (The End) In Love, We Disagree Jesus Is The Lord
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Shall we run around the bush again and again "As I previously stated" It appears you deny a future "bodily resurrection" of those that have "physically Died" in faith Scripture clearly teaches just as Jesus Christ "physically died", and "physically resurrected" in a glorified body, those that have "physically died" that are in the faith will do the same, it's that simple "Future" "Physical" "Literal" "Bodily Resurrection"
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The book of Revelation is in "Parallel" teachings of same events, as clearly seen below, the final judgment is seen in Revelation 11:18 and again in Revelation 20:11-15 Will you now deny that the scripture below is the final judgement? Revelation 11:18KJV 18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
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There is no future 1,000 year kingdom on this earth when Jesus returns Jesus returns in fire and final judge.ent, dissolving this earth by fire (The End)
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Thanks for the response, I strongly disagree The book of revelation is written in "Parallel" teachings of same events Examples: The 7th vial and 7th trump are parallel teachings of (The End) Revelation 11:18 & Revelation 20:11-15 are parallel teachings of the final judgement Thanks for the response, We Disagree, Jesus Is The Lord
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Shall we run around the bush again and again "As I previously stated" It appears you deny a future "bodily resurrection" of those that have "physically Died" in faith Scripture clearly teaches just as Jesus Christ "physically died", and "physically resurrected" in a glorified body, those that have "Physically Died" that are in the faith will do the same 2 Timothy 2:16-18KJV 16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. 17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; 18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some. 1 Corinthians 15:12-14KJV 12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: 14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.