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A general brief explanation: The revelation in chapters 1-3 is explaining the conditions of the 1st century church Chapters 5-22 are prophetic events that will lead up to the Lords return in the end and the eternal kingdom explained in detail
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I Disagree The Beast of Revelation 13 dosen't represent Rome or the Pope over the centuries, he will be revealed to the future Church and world, and he will be give 42 future literal months in power, and be destroyed by the brightness of Jesus Christ at his return in the heavens
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At no time did I reference a "Dragon Beast" as you suggest I referenced (The Man Of Sin/The Beast) and this literal future human man isn't the (Dragon/Satan) seen in Revelation 12, they are separate beings, one spiritual, one human The spiritual (Dragon/Satan) gives power to the human (The Beast) as seen below, two separate beings Revelation 13:4KJV 4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
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The Preterist interpretation that the Revelation was written to the 1st century church, with claims that verse one "Must Shortly Come To Pass" brings the claim of fulfillment of the Revelation in the 1st century church? Yes the Preterist claim picks one verse, and neglects the "Full Context" of the scripture, as verse 19 below clearly describes two timelines seen in the Revelation in fulfillment 1.) "The Things Which Are": Chapters 1-4 in the Churches conditions at the writing of the Revelation, and Gods throne 2.) "The Things Which Shall Be Hereafter": Chapters 5-22 future prophecy, looking past the 1st century church Jesus Is The Lord Revelation 1:1 & 19KJV 1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: 19Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;
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I disagree with your interpretation of the tribulation being from 70AD to 1967, with 1900 literal historical years becoming a symbolic 7 years Scripture teaches that the beast will be a literal human man and given power 42 months Revelation chapter 13, (the man of sin/the beast) being given 42 months and being revealed to the world is future 2 Thessalonians 2:3, and doesn't represent your claim of a fulfilled tribulation I also disagree as previously stated, Caesar didnt fulfill (the man of sin/the beast) as the Lord will destroy this figure at his "Future" return, 2 Thessalonians 2:8 seen below 2 Thessalonians 2:8KJV 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
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He that leadeth into captivity into captivity shall they go ???
truth7t7 replied to R. Hartono's topic in Prophecy
Daniel 3:16-18KJV 16 Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, answered and said to the king, O Nebuchadnezzar, we are not careful to answer thee in this matter. 17 If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of thine hand, O king. 18 But if not, be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up. Acts 5:39-41KJV 39 But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God. 40 And to him they agreed: and when they had called the apostles, and beaten them, they commanded that they should not speak in the name of Jesus, and let them go. 41 And they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for his name. -
It's my oponion that the Expression is one sided in ole Alex Jones, QAnon fashion, Shadow governments in conspiracy No question we are in present evil danger, but the ship has a hard rudder right that taking place The US Supreme court has recently upheld Texas Law restricting abortion on the heart beat legislation, as many States have followed This Supreme Court is presently hearing arguments in Mississippi case (Dobbs vs Jackson), a case that could potentially be a pathway to abolish (Abortion) in killing the innocent unborn The post reference just the opposite in narrative, with the unborn being killed at birth, as if this is the norm Virginia recent election red wave, flipping a blue state 30+ states changed election laws, removing potential areas of fraud, drop boxes removed, positive voter ID required, ballot harvesting removed, etc Judicial Watch has sued several states and counties for voter roll cleanup,millions of potential fraud registrants being removed The democratic agenda has been stopped, court packing, Puerto Rico & DC statehood, changing election laws, forced employer vaccine mandates, llegal immigrants cant seek citizenship or green cards to work Things aren't as ugly as portrayed, it's hard right rudder, and 2022 is going to be a red wave slaughter Trump/DeSantis 2024
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Just because a selected verse surrounding the (Last Trump) dosen't speak of the last day (Catching Up) dosent even suggest it isnt the same 7th or last trump A Berean looks at the whole of scripture, and there is more than Revelation 11:15-19 that identifies this 7th or (Last Trump)
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Answersingenesis Adam was created on day 6, so there were five days before him. If we add up the dates from Adam to Abraham, we get about 2,000 years, using the Masoretic Hebrew text of Genesis 5 and 11. Whether Christian or secular, most scholars would agree that Abraham lived about 2,000 B.C. (4,000 years ago). So a simple calculation is: 5 days + ~2,000 years + ~4,000 years ~6,000 years
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Man's claims and that big word (IF) Man claims they sent a mechanical craft 100+ million miles away their guesstimate to a planet mars, controlled and landed a mechanical device that took pictures and samples, analyzed these samples, then transmitted this info back to earth? Man can't keep my mobile phone working guaranteed from cell tower to cell tower, and to make the claims above is a real big smile!
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I was unaware Chuck earned a "doctorate", I'm aware of his earning a master's in engineering from UCLA?
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You build your entire hypothetical question on (IF) and those pertain to the claims of man, who has a deceitful heart, and in the secular world, abundant "Liars"
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Exposition on the fact Angel's dont give in marriage, nor do they have sexual relations with humans, the teaching of the Nephilim is found in "Greek Mythology"
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Colossians 1:16KJV 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
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No Angel's don't maintain human sperm, neither do the give in marriage, or create offspring The teaching of the Nephilim and its supporter in Church Missler are both water under the bridge, as Missler died years ago, and the fervor of his teachings in error followed
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Of course the book of Daniel was written prophetically to the Church, as he writes of the future great tribulation and last day resurrection seen below, that will pertain directly to the "Future Church" Daniel 12:2 and John 5:28-29 are parallel teachings of the same event, in the Last Day resurrection Daniel 12:1-2KJV 1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. 2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
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He that leadeth into captivity into captivity shall they go ???
truth7t7 replied to R. Hartono's topic in Prophecy
Dispensationalism, and those that follow its teaching "Add" to and change the scripture seen below 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 being a prime example of their "claimed" pre-trib rapture of the Church to heaven thats not seen As this scripture shows, this is nothing more than the Lords return and the last day resurrection of the dead in Christ, with their pre-trib rapture being "Added" to the event, that's not seen 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17KJV 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. The Last Day Resurrection Of The Dead In Christ John 6:39-40KJV 39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. -
Scripture teaches that the 3 events seen below must take place prior to either the battle of Revelation 16:12-17 or Revelation 20:7-9 Three major events must be seen to be (at/near) the opening of the future 3.5 year tribulation 1.) (The Man Of Sin) must be revealed to the world and Church on earth, 2 Thessalonians 2:3 2.) (The False Prophet) performs miracles, calling fire down from heaven, before (The Beast) and world, Revelation 13:13-15 3.) The (Two Witnesses) are revealed bringing literal plagues, upon this literal world, comparable to Moses/Aaron against Pharaoh of Egypt, Revelation 11:3-15
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Only God can create a living soul (IF) is a very big word, in the sight of man's "claims" Genesis 2:7KJV 7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
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The claims of Jesus return, have been predicted ever since he ascended to heaven The very birth of religious followings has been founded on this very prediction, Millerrites, Jehovah's Witnesses, 7th Day Adventist, to mention a few I can't disagree we are living in evil times, in my opinion surpassing the days of (Noah) and (Lot) in Sodom and Gomorrah, (Abortion) (Same Sex Marriage) to mention a few Three major events must be seen to be (at/near) the opening of the 3.5 year tribulation 1.) (The Man Of Sin) must be revealed to the world and Church on earth, 2 Thessalonians 2:3 2.) (The False Prophet) performs miracles, calling fire down from heaven, before (The Beast) and world, Revelation 13:13-14 3.) (The Two Witnesses) are revealed bringing literal plagues, upon this literal world, comparable to Moses/Aaron against Pharaoh of Egypt, Revelation 11:3-15
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I fully agree, Hebrews 12:26-27 is speaking of this heaven and earth being removed 2 Peter 3:10-13, and that remaining will be the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, as seen in Revelation 21:1-5, a literal future event unfulfilled Hebrews 12:26-27KJV 26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven. 27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.
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We Agree, in the twinkling of an eye, mortal will put on immortality, as death is swallowed up in victory (The End)
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I Strongly Disagree There is one future resurrection of all, this takes place on the (Last Day) as scripture clearly teaches below John 5:28-29KJV 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. John 6:39-40KJV 39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
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What's your response to literal wooden weapons, being burnt with fire for 7 years seen below? Ezekiel 39:9KJV 9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years:
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I Disagree Towards the end of the tribulation, the world armies will come against the (Two Witnesses) seen in Revelation chapter 11, who are bringing plagues in torment upon the world from Jerusalem The kings of the earth will be drawn to Armageddon by devils from the, dragon, beast, false prophet, as seen in Revelation 16:13-14 Jesus Christ will return to the battle in fire and final judgement, dissolving this earth by fire (The End)