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I play around a lot with bible gateway's search tool to find the differences between copies of the bibles. Some things I've found that been bugging me about NIV is the switching or subtraction of words. I'll give some examples. In NIV there are no occurrences of the word "saint", it has all been changed to "holy ones" or "holy people" etc. I was under the understanding that only God was holy. Am I wrong? 1 Samuel 2:2 New International Version (NIV) 2 “There is no one holy like the Lord; there is no one besides you; there is no Rock like our God. Okay, so from Samuel 2:2 of NIV we see the statement that only the Lord is holy. We get the same result from KJV too. 1 Samuel 2:2 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV) 2 There is none holy as the Lord: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God. Then Psalm 89:7 of NIV goes on to contradict this statement. Psalm 89:7 New International Version (NIV) 7 In the council of the holy ones God is greatly feared; he is more awesome than all who surround him. So only God is holy yet He is before the holy ones? In the same Psalm, KJV sticks to the use of the word "saint". Psalm 89:7 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV) 7 God is greatly to be feared in the assembly of the saints, and to be had in reverence of all them that are about him. The NIV is implying an equality between God and the followers. This is insanely deceptive. I honestly feel that what I see qualifies NIV as false doctrine. Can I get some input from you doctrine experts out there?

I started out with a Nelson's New King James Bible. It has a lot of good stuff in the sub-texts, but as I got further into my interest I found myself going back to the older bibles until I ordered a reprint of the 1611 KJV Bible. I feel it has a sense of greater truth in it, but it is harder to read. Judeth is spelled Ivdeth. Jesus is Iesus. Sun is Sunne. Etc. But it has an extra section of scripture called Apocrypha. Overall I think it's a masterpiece compared to other bibles, just harder to read. Anyway what copy is your favorite and why?

Thanks John. I see how interested my 1 year old nephew is in cell phones and laptops, so something like this could indeed come in handy.

I believe technology will play an important part in the end. I just don't believe we can point any one specific thing, such as the internet, and call it evil. Nah, I am not calling it evil. But it could entirely be manipulated to serve evil intentions, and does offer them by the power of choice.

Well the 7 letters are divine judgments throughout all time. It's not a matter of it being directed towards our modern world, but the judgments are always the same. So in the end times, I feel absolutely technology is a huge factor in Revelation. Quoting Daniel 12:4 But you, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. If the end hasn't come yet, then it'll be in the future and technology will continue to expand. Eyes->Technology->Influence What could be more perfect a plan than an entire world controlled through technology under the power of one man's leadership?

Rev 17 1And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: 2With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. 3 How could she literally sit upon many waters without the Internet? I just feel Revelation is somehow geared towards the modern technological world.

I agree that it is what you use it for to some aspect. But check out this stats poster. It's ultimately disturbing. 12. The average age a child first sees porn is age 11

I know this doesn't count, but I had a dream that it happens during the sixth trumpet. Even so, nobody knows when.

It is relating to the delivery of the over comer. Rev 2:26 To the one who is victorious and does my will to the end, I will give authority over the nations— 27 that one ‘will rule them with an iron scepter and will dash them to pieces like pottery’[b]—just as I have received authority from my Father. Rev 12:5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.”[a]

Regarding Revelation 2:18-29 (18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass; 19 I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first. 20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. 21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. 22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. 23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. 24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden. 25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come. 26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: 27 and he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. 28 And I will give him the morning star. 29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.) Verse 20/21 - the implication of Jezebel is that of a modern day porn star. Since many Christians have Internet access, do you agree that perhaps this is the Lord's judgment against us? Simply by paying the providers of Internet service, we are ultimately supporting the medium which delivers what is detestable in the eyes of the Lord. Furthermore, it places deception into the hands of children from parent's carelessness. Jezebel = Sexual Immorality. Jezebel = homosexuality. Jezebel = the spiriit that troubled even great prophets. Jezebel = spiritual deception. Is the Lord telling us that we have allowed Jezebel and other darkness into our homes and that He is against us for this? Curious to know what others think. It is a good question to raise for debate.

Revelation 17:1-6 One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the punishment of the great prostitute, who sits by many waters. With her the kings of the earth committed adultery, and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries.” Then the angel carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness. There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names and had seven heads and ten horns. The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries. The name written on her forehead was a mystery: babylon the great the mother of prostitutes and of the abominations of the earth. I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of God’s holy people, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus. I believe this passage is regarding Internet pornography. To sit by many waters and be in many places at once could only be achieved through the means of the World Wide Web. The kings of the earth committed adultery with the great prostitute since they share power and fame. This implies leaders of the nations were physically with her. The prostitute John is refering to is the porn star and entity that perpetrates the image. Men that idolize a woman for sexual purposes are committing spiritual idoltary through lustful depictions spread out online. The adornments signify not her literal appearance, but are in regards to the beautification of the body. Today this would be lingerie and other sexually explicit attire. The golden cup in her hand represents her power over men. It is symbolic for the "cup full" of detestable sex acts used in the adult entertainment industry, which some of, qualify as ritualistic taboo. The word babylon can represent any nation that is under the effects of the great prostitute, however the mystery babylon signifies greater importance and impact regarding wordly implications. Babylon the great is the mother of prostitutes, her temporary financial success and fame gives birth to the nature of industry where greed and lust are exploited to elevate the images of babylon's great abominations over the eyes of many nations through the under world of the Internet. The woman being drunk with the blood of the saints (God's holy people) is regarding the matters of the truth: Those faithful and loyal to God (Christians) were involved in the use of online pornography. Some repentant , others not. However for the righteous followers, their habit towards the use of such material is the shedding of their blood and denotes their suffering in sin. - - - - - Revelation 17:9 Here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sits. When John received this revelation he chose the parable "mountain" to represent the 7 continents of earth during a time when the modern world was unknown. The revelation is pertaining to a time when the fornication of the great prostitute would reach around the entire globe and this is now a possibility today thanks to technology (or sorcery), whatever you prefer to call it. I will note that in NIV's translation it uses the word "hills", which I feel is misleading or deceptive regarding my feelings on the matter. Revelation, a world wide event regarding the end of humanity, does not equip itself to any significance with the use of the word "hills". - - - - - Revelation 17:15 Then he said to me, “The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues. Again a passage signifies the collection of different peoples, nations and tongues. This speaks of the spiritual idoltary which was put over many different nations. The onslaught of pornography in today's world teaches youth and adults alike to accept the contents in the light of modern progression, which is where many leaders are failing to uphold the fact that God's laws do not change. - - - - - Revelation 18:1-3 After these things I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was illumined with his glory.And he cried out with a mighty voice, saying, “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great! She has become a dwelling place of demons and a prison of every unclean spirit, and a prison of every unclean and hateful bird.“For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the passion of her immorality, and the kings of the earth have committed acts of immorality with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich by the wealth of her sensuality.” The merchants are the profiteers of the adult entertainment industry. The Internet functions as a cage for the unclean souls that have not accepted Christ. All the nations have drunk the wine for all different types of peoples dwell in the United States. Digital products can circulate and be used anywhere. The revelation signifies a time that is now or a time where literally every single nation is connected together with the presence of babylon the great. - - - - - Revelation 18:4-8 I heard another voice from heaven, saying, “Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues;for her sins have piled up as high as heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.“Pay her back even as she has paid, and give back to her double according to her deeds; in the cup which she has mixed, mix twice as much for her.“To the degree that she glorified herself and lived sensuously, to the same degree give her torment and mourning; for she says in her heart, ‘I SIT as A QUEEN AND I AM NOT A WIDOW, and will never see mourning.’“For this reason in one day her plagues will come, pestilence and mourning and famine, and she will be burned up with fire; for the Lord God who judges her is strong. The warning here presented by God should come as a sign if my interpretations are correct, which is why I present this synopsis to bring an enhanced view towards the ongoing consideration of Revelation. God understands the implications of the self-destructive nature that plagues those who partake in the wines of her immoralities. Pornography is not demonized as it should be in today's society, no, it's made freely available over the Internet and is unacceptable in the eyes of the Lord, especially when children are able to obtain access. - - - - - Revelation 18:9-10 “And the kings of the earth, who committed acts of immorality and lived sensuously with her, will weep and lament over her when they see the smoke of her burning,standing at a distance because of the fear of her torment, saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, Babylon, the strong city! For in one hour your judgment has come.’ Many will weep over the destruction of the modern world when God destroys it. To put such sorcery to an end, an apocalypse must be brought about. - - - - - Revelation 18:11-20 “And the merchants of the earth weep and mourn over her, because no one buys their cargoes any more—cargoes of gold and silver and precious stones and pearls and fine linen and purple and silk and scarlet, and every kind of citron wood and every article of ivory and every article made from very costly wood and bronze and iron and marble,and cinnamon and spice and incense and perfume and frankincense and wine and olive oil and fine flour and wheat and cattle and sheep, and cargoes of horses and chariots and slaves and human lives.“The fruit you long for has gone from you, and all things that were luxurious and splendid have passed away from you and men will no longer find them.“The merchants of these things, who became rich from her, will stand at a distance because of the fear of her torment, weeping and mourning,saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, she who was clothed in fine linen and purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls;for in one hour such great wealth has been laid waste!’ And every shipmaster and every passenger and sailor, and as many as make their living by the sea, stood at a distance,and were crying out as they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, ‘What city is like the great city?’“And they threw dust on their heads and were crying out, weeping and mourning, saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, in which all who had ships at sea became rich by her wealth, for in one hour she has been laid waste!’“Rejoice over her, O heaven, and you saints and apostles and prophets, because God has pronounced judgment for you against her.” With the absolute destruction of modern cities and computers among other things, the marketers will mourn for the system which has been lost. Here we can begin to understand the implications of her adulteries, which even effected the saints and prophets. "The fruit you long for has gone from you" perhaps applies to the notion that the destruction is the removal of the "forbidden fruit". - - - - - Revelation 18:23-24 and the light of a lamp will not shine in you any longer; and the voice of the bridegroom and bride will not be heard in you any longer; for your merchants were the great men of the earth, because all the nations were deceived by your sorcery.“And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth.” Again here we see the word "sorcery" used. If Revelation is the end, and our modern technologies like cable TV and the Internet are the sorcery, then this scripture implies that technology will be the very tool of deception. The sorcerers will stage and/or fake events causing them to look real. Anything made in Hollywood could be made as news. The saints and prophets blood was found in the mighty babylon, indicating that the Antichrist or whoever will use modern technology to conform people together through various nations by presenting their desired perceptions. When the rise against the saints comes to be, blood will also be spilled literally. The passage is indicating that the world built around us has become poison. - - - - - FINAL DEPICTION I present the end time Revelation as an underground system of control over people through the use of pornography and also the ongoing spread of misinformation and false truths. Technology can totally distort or skew the portrayal of the world as it is, however we can use technology to also present a truthful imagery of the very facts I am claiming. Here is an Internet use map to elevate the understanding of my synopsis. Final Thoughts -- Dangers of Pornography Since marriage is the image of God for Christian marriage, it is the satanic goal to dismantle and destroy marriage to implement their image into the fashion of the world. The devil’s image is a term known as BDSM (Bondage, Discipline, sadomasochism). Instead of teaching people to follow the love and faith of Christ, male and female based marriages, BDSM aims to have people paired not by gender appropriate roles, but instead coupled in the roles of a submissive and dominant partnership. It essentially teaches the practice of finding partners regarding their sexual preferences, which is fulfilling bodily lusts and not love from the heart. This is the SEAL of Babalon and it is currently manifest throughout American and European culture, among other parts of the world. The Internet is the base of operations for these satanically inspired agendas where they promote addiction to sexual fetishes to grow the number of followers to BDSM, the Antichrist’s opposing structure to traditional marriage. Online pornography is the #1 tool that teaches and practices such behaviors regarding this image. Some Questions to Contemplate: Is the digital underworld the Mystery Babylon that's brewing? Is our technology today the very sorcery spoken of during the end time? Is the Internet the tool that gives the Beast insight into our minds? Is technology the forbidden fruit that plagues mankind? (Apple logo. Irony?) Is irony mocking the USA by electing Obama? Is it implying USA is an Obama-nation (Abomination)? The USA is the origin of online pornography. TV came from Nazi Germany's technology and now it's here promoting vast amounts of celebrities, false leaders and sex idols, and now, the Internet passes these idols through the web. Wondrous irony... Those are my thoughts.

IMO - Yes. All sin is left with the body, which is dust. You'll be raised in a proper light where true wisdom is taught. You'll become you again, but without sin. A second chance by the grace of God.

The Lord Jesus Christ is one with nature. There is no need for a queen in heaven.

Then you go on to say that Christ is from the far future. How can this be when He is everywhere at once and does not live in the same time frame as we do? My Response: Technically one could say Christ is from the past since our knowing of Him comes from history. However Christ spoke of many things regarding current times and He also spoke about the future (and end of days) in parables, etc. From this stance I claim His wisdom derives from God for the future's sake. His message was for all humanity. Now if we caught up to Christ in this very moment, would we step into the future? Certainly, however Christ exists, is the future for our one and only goal is to find Him and be with Him. Therefore this is how I claim Christ is from the future, the path we Christians seek to follow. Then you add another sci-fi touch about beaming us to different worlds. My response: The spirit or soul exists without the body. I am simply implying a method exists for the transport of ones soul to and from a body. When Christ died, His spirit ascended and was then sent back 3 days later to resurrect. This is entirely what I mean regarding "beaming us to different worlds". God has the power to send the soul and take the soul. It's simply the method of transport and exists as part of the cycle of life. I consider this very thing to be a "technology of God". Considering that my claim is from my earth mind, this is my comprehension of such things. I would like to know where you found this in scripture, or is this some personal theory of yours because you like sci-fi? Genesis 28:12 "And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it. " How do you think God's messengers got sent into the earth? They traveled in the spirit and descended onto earth. The method is known as "swapping". God's angel goes into the body and the body's soul ascends into heaven. My Response: John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." I accepted the blood of Christ, I received my baptism, I do love God and I do my best to love those around me. Christ's purpose was out of love and the very acts in the bible regarding His entire existence is proof of love for God gave the only begotten Son to shed the light of truth onto us. My heart connects to the testimony of Christ, so therefore I do believe I am saved. The ascended ones are the keepers of truth, life and destiny. They possess all wisdom and knowledge, but teach humanity to follow good morals. For they raise up others to be ascended and to work by their side. If what they knew fell into the hands of mankind today, it would be abused and violate the principles of managing life. I do not believe they see humanity fit to run planetary life when they have not even come close to perfecting their own world. The 144,000 for example, will be the chosen ones to make up the body of Christ's government. We're here to learn truth and perfect our hearts so we can see how it's meant to be. We'll be shown the true way of life for our enduring belief. ok, so is this personal revelation you have received, or is this something you could show to be true through the Bible? i would even consider some extra-biblical sources if what they state is confirmed in the Bible. you will need the mouths of 2 or 3 witnesses to establish this as truth. My Response: Isaiah 65:17 "For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind." heavens (plural) earth (singular) It is what I feel when I look upon the stars. The ascended ones go to heaven and live true life by the side of Christ's rule and power. It means that your love, your convictions and your beliefs become your acceptance which forms into your true nature. Should you discover your true nature and ascend, then you will sit at the right hand of God. You will witness creation and the inner-workings of God as an ascended being while living in the image of God. Just as well as Rev 14:1 "Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads." implies duty under the Christ. Ascending has further purpose and when you surrender to the fact that God is sovereignly in control of all things, then you can begin to understand there is an underlying purpose for the ascended brothers and sisters of righteousness. Try to also remember the very fact: God does not create sin. It was the serpent that deceived mankind. God creates only eternal heavens throughout the universe. The earth is the sinful dwelling place or "Garden of Eden" from where all life stems. God would not create and fill an entire universe full of sin and despair from the plagues of humanity. The light is so vast, so powerful, so overwhelming, it entirely surrounds the earth. God creates many heavens, but only one earth. Now, does that sound like the method an ascended master would use to manage the universe? Or do you think God would fill it full of earths and sin? That is the serpent's lie. The belief in aliens and NASA's portrayal of the galaxies are entirely fictional. Mankind cannot reach the heavens without ascension. Earth is their campfire. It is also known as "the ant farm". They all sit around it waiting to see what beautiful things shall ascend up from it. Though from time to time, as you may know, some ascended ones are thrown back to the earth and descended... just like Satan was for his betrayal. Now Satan is living his last lie and illusion, cracking from the pressure of knowing the time runs out when the eternal heavens and earth meet in real time.

Yes I believe Jesus is the Son of God. I say they are from the future because what they've discovered through all eternity is the key to true living as an ascended being. When they return to earth they will destroy the opposition and then prepare earth properly for Christ's return. Their being, whether in human or angel form, is irrelevant. They travel in light form and wield the technology to do so. It's how life and death is managed by tracking the user's soul with a spiritual ID. It may as well be the future for our sake because our purpose is to learn from them and our own mistakes. The beings that go to heaven will be pure in heart and thus fit in to perfected harmonic life that offers the purpose of administrating over an earth (their footstool). No I do not believe God is an alien race, but believing in angels itself points to a being who is "alien" to the earth. I fully believe that Science and Religion need to go hand in hand and not in opposition of each other. The reasons for apocalypse is to destroy knowledge of science so that mankind does not discover the secrets of God. Like the practice of mind uploading is said to be discovered within 100 years. I think the point of the end is to reveal truth caught up to the earth in real time. Technology or magic, whatever you want to call it, will marvel the simple minds of humans. The ascended ones are the keepers of truth, life and destiny. They possess all wisdom and knowledge, but teach humanity to follow good morals. For they raise up others to be ascended and to work by their side. If what they knew fell into the hands of mankind today, it would be abused and violate the principles of managing life. I do not believe they see humanity fit to run planetary life when they have not even come close to perfecting their own world. The 144,000 for example, will be the chosen ones to make up the body of Christ's government. We're here to learn truth and perfect our hearts so we can see how it's meant to be. We'll be shown the true way of life for our enduring belief.

It'll be like the movie "Independence Day" when Christ and His Army of Light descends over the earth to rule it with a rod of iron. Great mother ships and awesome technologies will escort Christ here. All the world will shiver and yield to His Glory. Christ is from the far future basically and has access to all technology ever made.The ancients couldn't describe it like we could today. It's nothing mystic for Christ rules the galaxy and His Reign will catch up with the earth in real time. They have the technology to beam your soul to different worlds and catch you upon death. Such great technology may as well be God in our eyes. Oh wait, it is God! Humanity will never reach the understanding of it though, which is why there's an apocalypse! This is how God has controlled the earth forever and ever. Only the ascended ones will work with Christ to rule by His side.

When the Moon bleeds red, according to the 1611 King James Bible, it is called the Lord's Day. There is a large section of Apocrypha in this version that speaks of the Moon bleeding and the Lord's Day that has been left out of the modern day translations of the Holy Bible. It is considered to be a sign for the nation that is able to see it turn red.

Mystery Babylon = Virtual Underworld (Internet) It is the filth and abomination of the acts that can be found today in our modern world via the World Wide Web. Babylon is the name given to the perverse empire that rules with sexual idoltary. Babalon is a works done by the occultist Crowley and it is the emblem for the reversal of marriage. The opposite of Christian marriage = BDSM BDSM: The practice of pairing individuals based on sexual preferences and not heart-based love. Mystery Babylon is not a physical empire in the end-times, it is the technological world of the Internet that promotes sexual fetishes and other corrupt images to cater to people's sexual needs. The ancient prophets used the word sorcery to speak of such things, today we simply know it as technology. God has always been, always is and always will be. Nothing in our world is new or being done for the first time. Since God is not constrained by the aspects of time, there is no such thing as time.With that being said, our life in our world is a repeat of everything that has happened, is happening and will happen. The Mystery Babylon cannot be seen in one place because it's all around us undermining the foundations of marriage. One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the punishment of the great prostitute, who sits by many waters. With her the kings of the earth committed adultery, and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries.” Then the angel carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness. There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names and had seven heads and ten horns. The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries. The name written on her forehead was a mystery: babylon the great the mother of prostitutes and of the abominations of the earth. I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of God’s holy people, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus. Today's Internet world of pornography is what John was attempting to explain in Revelation. The cup full of abominations is the small handfull of different sex acts the Adult Entertainment Industry uses to perform the filthiness of their abominations. John has also implied that many Christians were involved in the fornication of the great harlot along with leaders and whatnot. The woman's adornments change from civilization to civilization and one with little imagination can begin to understand that John is speaking of lingerie and other attire used to promote the image of the great prostitute (which sits on many waters thanks to the world wide web). There, I have done it for you and revealed the MYSTERY OF BABYLON.

I believe the rapture is yet to come. I have had a vision of the Great Ascension (or rapture) and from the experience, I do believe it's to happen in the modern world in a time that is near. My claim is also based on Revelation interpretation. I'll give one example. And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. -Revelation 17:9 From my understanding John is talking about the Internet and pornography. The number 7 resembles completeness. The 7 mountains represent the 7 continents of earth and 7 heads are the different peoples in it. The woman sitting on top is the porn star who is drunken off the blood of the saints (God's servants). It is talking about a time where the world is wrapped up in spiritual idoltary. With that being my interpretation, I do believe we're living in the end times. From the vision I've had of the Great Ascension (rapture) it was clear to me that it'd be during the great invasion. When is rapture? During the Sixth Trumpet - Four Angels of the Apocalypse. This is when the forces of light come to destroy much of the world and since it's a time of complete chaos and panic, it sets the stage for the absence of the Church. For all those left behind after this occurrence will not take notice to the missing since the media forces will blame it on the destruction, not the rapture. This will be the great deception where they try to label the invasion as an "alien invasion" and cover up the fact that they were actually Angels under God's command. Area 51 and shows on TV like "Ancient Aliens" are all setting the stage now to develop a common belief in efforts to disguise the event so people won't know it's part of the Revelation.