Marilyn C

And I think it is good to remember that God has appointed times for His judgment upon the nations, starting with the (far) northern Federation and his pals. (Zech. 6: 8 Ez. 38 Joel 2)

Thank you SD, that is so good. Love the background music too. Well done, again.

Morning VA, Very good post. I certainly agree. Now I would just say, that `What a situation FALLEN man is in now.` You would agree I know that WE are not a part of God`s judgments coming on man`s world system and those who adhere to it. As to the UN it was only created as a `cover` to give the impression the world is working together. You see the UN`s Security Council consists of the permanent Big Five. - USA, UK, France, Russia and China. Each permanent member has power to veto, enabling them to prevent the adoption of any `substantive` draft Council resolution, regardless of the level of international support of the draft. However, the UN does have a very significant role in the Global Government - religious. GLOBAL MOTIVATION A Global Government needs the hearts and minds of the people to agree with it. Thus there is needed the motivating force of religion to drive people towards a Global Government. It is the unifying reason that people will give allegiance to. Thus we see that the United Nations has become the International Institution to promote the New Age one-world religion spirituality. THE UNITED NATIONS (UN) The UN has issued a Global Charter called `The Earth Charter.` This is promoted as the `new scripture.` It stresses that man is his own saviour. By saving `mother earth,` they say, that we will once again return to an idyllic garden of Eden. All aspects of society are being involved - religions, business, education, health, entertainment, sport and civil society. Everyone is to work towards the same goals, with the same moral values. These goals are called the `Sustainable Development Goals,` (SDG) officially known as `Transforming our World,` and popularly known as `The Future We Want.` To achieve these Sustainable Development Goals the United Nations uses the Common Values of the `Earth Charter.` The document makes a declaration for a just, sustainable, peaceful global society and its mission is to promote - `A Global society founded on a shared ethical framework.` Global Moral Values & their meaning. These are – respect, responsibility, justice, trustworthiness, civic virtue & citizenship, etc RESPECT – like tolerance & inclusive – means appreciation for people & lifestyles (pagan & promiscuous, different sexual preferences……) RESPONSIBILITY – refers to the `common good` of the community, where individuals must yield to the collective interests. (Socialism) CIVIC VIRTUE & CITIZENSHIP – are also open ended. Compliant citizens must be ready to conform to changing rules & evolving duties. People are made to think that they are to blame for all the world`s ills, diseases, poverty, crime, inequality and thus to get rid of these guilt feelings people give over their personal responsibility to the UN`s plans and goals. The Global Charter was drafted in coordination with a hard law treaty designed to provide an integrated legal framework for all environment development law and policy. It is called the `International Covenant on Environment and Development.` Governments are required to adhere to its ever-increasing requirements. Thus, we can see that the United Nations, the arm of the G20, is bringing together all areas of society to believe in this new religion of `Mother Earth.`

I so appreciate Oswald Chamber`s writings. Though I think his wife put many together after he passed away quite young. Anyway, that is a big hurdle we all need to get over. So easy to criticize when really we have our areas we need to work on too. I am trying with the Lord to address this. Yes, we are concerned for someone but to let that just stay as an emotion then we are not giving the person over to the Lord. I`m finding that those in our group are dealing with this too. So, good post to bring this to our attention.

A good job for the False Prophet as he has two responsibilities - religion and economics. (Rev. 13: 11 - 17)

It is their aligning together, I believe. However, the first united appearance will be - `Like the morning clouds spread over the mountains, a people come, great and strong, the like of whom has never been; nor will there ever be any such after them, even for successive many generations.` (Joel 2: 2) So we will see this massive build up before they attack Israel in the Golan Heights.

Hi SD, That is so, so good. Well done. Quite a lot of work there and much thought. I bet you had fun with your friends. Keep up the good work. Marilyn.

Yes, VA, AdHoc and I do seem to knock heads quite often and get a topic off line. Sorry. Will try to be more careful in the future.

God`s image is - mind, will and emotions. However, as to a moral character that needs to develop by choices. eg, to be faithful requires time, and other attributes need time to develop. However, Adam`s moral character became damaged and focused on self instead of God. Thus, the human race has this `bias.`

Hi IS, I guess you would have to go throughout the whole world and ask every Christian that question. Personally, I believe that the Head of His Body is well able to bring us to maturity in Him believing the truth in His Word. (Eph. 4: 11 - 16) Be encouraged the Lord knows what He is doing and has many more believers than you have assessed in man`s organizations.

Hi unworthyservant, Good topic, and of course we must not leave out what Jesus continued to teach when He ascended to the father. Those teachings are from Acts to revelation.

Thank you for clearing that up.

Hi Gerda, Very sorry what happened to your child. Now I was a teacher of that age for many years. I realized after a while that girls tend to sit quietly while young boy`s bodies are made to move and do things. Thus, I made lessons short and we did physical things in between the sitting times. May I suggest your child will learn more about God from you than sitting in a building with many others while the adults try to get them to perform. Go play ball, get outside and talk of God`s creation and love. He certainly did not learn of God`s love isolated in that room.

So, so good and true. Well said.

Hi Adhoc, This is your quote. Note you wrote SOMEBODY,` I don`t have to misquote as it`s all there. The conditions of the earth in Genesis 1:2, covered with water and darkness, are consistently signs of God's judgment. Somebody did something so the earth "became a chaos" (Gen.1:2 lit.). As to the ole serpent, the dragon, the devil and Satan, they are ALL descriptions of his strategies which the Lord has overcome in His 4 ministries. Ole Serpent - deludes. (Gen. 3: 1 - 5) Dragon - devours. (Rev. 12: 4) Devil - destroys. (John 10: 10) Satan - accusers. (12: 10)

Hi VA, Another great post. I certainly agree. Now I have been thinking lately that all the media through mobiles, computers, TV etc that people are watching, and mostly for hours, can make the emotions unsettled. We, as believers need to make sure we spend quality time in quiet, waiting on the Lord - reading His word, praying, interceding, just being quiet. The world would have us adrenalized constantly wanting the next `fix of worldly humor, gossip, bad news etc etc. We are to make sure we don`t get on the merry-go-round. And it is not `merry.` The battle is for our minds and emotions to steer us away from getting fed in our spirits, and to pander to our flesh. Can we go for very long without looking at the scroll on our phones? Do we feel we are missing out on what is happening in the world if we don`t keep up. Well, God`s Word is way ahead of the game. God`s Word tells us everything that is important for us to know about what is coming on the world. `Therefore let us not sleep, (mind on the world), as others do, but let us watch and be sober. For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk are drunk at night.` (night - the world in darkness of evil) (1 Thess. 5: 6 & 7)

All nonsense bro. You were the one who brought up `somebody` before the beginning. You are confusing the tabernacles - heaven, (God`s throne) earth, man-made. Sad that you make fun of God`s word - dust does not make any thing bigger.

`And ALL the tribes of the earth will MOURN because of Him.` (Rev. 1: 7) I can tell you that I won`t be part of that. The Body of Christ does not mourn because we will have gone to glory well before all that.

Hi Ad Hoc, If there ever was a `somebody` who `did something so the earth became chaos,` then Christ would have needed to die back then. But no, all false. The Hebrew word for `renew` is to fill up, NOT to renew again as our English word. 1. The Tabernacle in heaven is God`s throne with Christ`s body the veil and His precious blood brought in. `the greater more perfect tabernacle ....the Most Holy Place.....to appear in the presence of God for us...` (Heb. 9: 11, 12, 24) 2. God`s word tells us that the `symbol` of the serpent in the garden is Satan. `the great dragon was cast out that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan,...` (Rev. 12: 9)

Yes, we have deviated, however the joy in my heart is that I will be with all the Body of Christ acclaiming the Lord Jesus Christ, heir of all of His Father`s estates, as He is visibly crowned before us all in the third heaven, the highest of all.

Hi William, It seems to me that you are seeing God`s prophecies as a jigsaw when in fact they are very clear for - Israel, the nations and the Body of Christ. You have muddled them all up.

`Now this is the main point of the things we are saying. We have such a high priest who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens, a minister of the sanctuary and of the true tabernacle which the Lord erected and not man. For every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices. Therefore it is necessary that this one also should have something to offer. For if He were on earth, He would not be a priest, since there are priests who offer gifts according to the law; ...` (Heb. 8: 1 - 4) In the millennium there are priests, thus the Lord is NOT ON earth. `And I will take some of them for priests and Levites," says the LORD. ` (Isa. 66: 21) `the priests, the Levites, the sons of Zadok, who kept charge of my sanctuary....they shall enter my sanctuary....they shall teach my people the difference between the holy and the unholy...` (Ez. 44: 15, 16, 23) And you are confusing the word kingdom as to mean the Lord is there where in fact it is His rule over all of God`s great kingdom not just the earth.

Hi IS, I agree that the 144,000 are from the 12 tribes of Israel. However, those in Jeremiah 3: 14 are the one-third of Zechariah 13: 8. The context is Israel going into the millennium.

Hi Ad Hoc, Well, here we go again. The `throne on earth,` is called David`s throne. The Lord is over that but that is NOT the Lord`s seat of Power and Authority. That throne is in the highest on the heavenly Mount Zion. (Ps. 2: 6) When the Lord comes in power and great glory with His angelic army He has the authority and power of that heavenly throne. That is why it is called the `throne of His glory.` (Matt. 24: 31) No one on earth can give the Lord His throne, His power and authority. That is why he said, `My Kingdom (rule, authority) is not of (from) this world. (John. 18: 36) The `throne` in Rev. 4 is - Let us now look closer at the One on this throne -the High Priest and King. The gem stones are given to reveal more understanding to us. The Gem Stones. `And he who sat there was like a jasper and a sardius in appearance;...` (Rev. 4: 3) The Jasper gem stone was the last on the High Priest`s breastplate. It stood for the tribe of Naphtali whose name means to prevail, to conquer - `I have prevailed.` (Gen. 30: 8) Prevail – to gain the victory, to conquer. (The Concise English Dictionary) Christ was the last Adam and He prevailed over the world, the flesh and the devil. He has secured the supreme victory over the greatest foe. The Sardius gem stone was the first on the High Priest`s breastplate. It stood for the tribe of Judah. The prophetic word reveals that He would be the ruler over the other tribes. (Gen. 49: 8 - 12) The Hebrew `yadah,` (Judah) means to use the hand, indicating power and dominion. The Emerald gem stone is also on the High Priest`s breastplate, and was for the tribe of Reuben. He was the first born of Jacob, and his heir. To the heir would be given three portions - the birthright, (double blessing), the priesthood and the kingdom. `and there was a rainbow around the throne, in appearance like an emerald.` (Rev. 4: 3) The `One` on the throne then is the High Priest of Heaven, the conqueror, the Sovereign Ruler and Heir of all the Father`s estates.

Thought you might like this list. The Precious Stones - Christ`s Rulership. The foundations of the walls are adorned with all kinds of precious stones. These were on the priest`s breastplate and represent Christ`s rulership. (Ex. 28: 15 – 21) Judgment – Heb. `mishpat,` meaning judgment, divine law, rulership. `And the foundations of the wall of the city were adorned with all kinds of precious stones: the 1st foundation was the jasper, the 2nd sapphire, the 3rd chalcedony, the 4th emerald, the 5th sardonyx, the 6th sardius, the 7th chrysolite, the 8th beryl, the 9th topaz, the 10th chrysoprase, the 11th jacinth, & the 12th amethyst.` (Rev. 21: 19 & 20) Christ the Conqueror. 1. Jasper – Naphtali - `Conqueror.` 2. Sapphire – Simeon – `voice of God.` 3. Chalcedony – Zebulon - `dwelling.` Christ the conqueror, is the voice of God dwelling with His people. Christ the KingPriest. 4. Emerald – Reuben - `first born, Heir.` 5. Sardonyx – Asher - `blessing, Priest.` 6. Sardius – Judah - `King, ruler.` Christ the first born and heir rules as KingPriest giving spiritual blessings. Christ the Judge. 7. Chrysolite – Gad - `administers judgments with justice.` 8. Beryl – Dan. - `Judge.` 9. Topaz – Issachar - `wisdom.` Christ the wise Judge who administers judgments with justice. Christ at the Father`s Right Hand. 10. Chrysoprase – Manassah –`forgiveness` 11. Jacinth – Ephraim - `doubly fruitful.` 12. Amethyst – Benjamin - `At the right hand of the Father.` Christ at the Father`s right hand gives forgiveness & blessing. (The Stones – Ex: 28: 17 – 21, The Tribes – Num. 10: 14 – 27, The Meanings – Gen. 29: 32, 30: 1 – 24, 35: 18)