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Not only that, no, unless/except considering perfect health, spiritual, soul, mental and body. .... Remember the opposite: the devil (and all the pernicious society) seeks only to make sick/sicker/dead /destroyed. Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil, and is still accomplishing this when people turn to YHWH/ come to Jesus - but many many many (most) churches allow the deception to continue instead of seeking LIGHT / TRUTH - in fact opposing the LIGHT/ TRUTH when someone comes proclaiming the GOOD NEWS .... Just a few excerpt references to start: About 13,300,000 results 40 Healing Scriptures - Seattle Revival Center www.seattlerevivalcenter.com/40-healing-scriptures.html - Cached - Similar It takes time to develop our faith, so if you have a life or death situation where the doctors say if ... Obey God's Word and be healed. ... “And the LORD will take away from you all sickness, and will afflict you with none of the terrible ... heaven And pour out for you such blessing That there will not be room enough to receive it. Deuteronomy 28 - Blessings for Obedience - If you fully - Bible ... https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+28 - Cached - Similar Blessings for Obedience - If you fully obey the LORD your God and carefully follow ... 61 The Lord will also bring on you every kind of sickness and disaster not ... Exodus 15:26 He said, "If you listen carefully to the LORD your God ... biblehub.com/exodus/15-26.htm - Cached - Similar He said, "If you will diligently obey the LORD your God, and do what is right in .... "The LORD will remove from you all sickness; and He will not put on you any of ...

Amein, and as soon as they were immersed in Jesus' Name, they considered their lives already 'forfeit' - sacrificed, buried, crucified with Christ with no fear of future pain suffering and death which was actually expected.... Just this morning ( a few hours ago in prayer considering what 'believers' live like) envisioning every time YHWH'S people lived right, they were always ready without hesitation , continually, daily, helping one another making sure everyone's needs were met - food and clothes and shelter, AND not being alone, not being neglected, not abandoned at all, but all together as one body united in JESUS daily, all day, every day, in everything they do/did .... Just like our elbows, knees, hands, eyes, ears and nose we don't go anywhere without them !!! Don't isolate them , abandon them, or separate them from the rest of our body, every part always fulfilling its purpose in place in the body, and relying / staying part of/ the whole body as YHWH designed us ... (not seen in many locations on earth - but only in a few, THANK GOD ! FOR THE FEW ! ) (a daily, never ending blessing ---- even when one of the body is in prison/ suffering/ they are still NOURISHED by the LIFE OF JESUS in HIS BODY on earth, the brethren/ supply of life as YHWH'S WORD describes ...... but even more 'visible' the body in life, in action, in communities where true believers love one another and watch out for the needs of others DAILY, meeting the needs of others BEFORE their own - working - working - working - honest work , why ? as it is written "TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OTHERS" .... likewise(never taught in "churches") if retired or having an entitlement/ income/ insurance - MEETING THE NEEDS OF OTHERS daily, as soon as they are seen.... realized.... as YHWH accomplishes ....

This is just a tidbit/ start/ reference to help get things in perspective >> https://answersingenesis.org/environmental-science/ice-age/when-was-the-ice-age-in-biblical-history/ " Knowing these things, how can we use the human history described in the Bible to shed light on the Ice Age’s beginning? Well, for one thing, no human tools or fossils appear anywhere on the earth until found in deposits from the beginning of the Ice Age.8 (God appears to have wiped away all remains of pre-Flood man; see Genesis 6:7.) Since their earliest remains suddenly appear throughout the Old World (Asia, Africa, and Europe), it appears that these are the people who scattered from Babel. It is reasonable to conclude that the start of the Ice Age roughly coincides with the Babel judgment. So it is reasonable to conclude that the start of the Ice Age in the Northern Hemisphere (the Pleistocene) roughly coincides with the Babel judgment, around a century or so after the Flood (perhaps 2250 BC). Who knows, perhaps the Ice Age was part of God’s plan to keep people from quickly resettling in one place again. The unpredictable climate would have made it difficult for anyone to settle down and raise seasonal crops in the years immediately following Babel’s dispersion." The accuracy and validity of the various times and ages etc as described at the site: https://answersingenesis.org/environmental-science/ice-age/when-was-the-ice-age-in-biblical-history/ may or may not have been verified by someone or many - it is unknown to me. (I barely read to and thru the excerpt above)

Isn't being "convicted by the Holy Spirit" only pertaining to being convicted of a personal sin for our repentance? Notice(d) they did not ever say they were taught nor convicted by the Breath of YHWH, Ruach HaKodesh, nor by Jesus, and did not stay in line with All Scripture, The Gospel, or the Teachings of the Apostles in Scripture, but 'left' the sure word (that was delivered once for all) behind, to follow after 'fables' .... "Conviction" apart from YHWH, of the self, flesh, or enemy is far more common than righteous truth, "Conviction" of Righteousness in Yeshua, in line with All of YHWH'S WORD.

little children, I write you these things so that you may not violate God’s law and sin. . But if anyone should sin, we have an Advocate (One Who will intercede for us) with the Father—[it is] Jesus Christ [the all] righteous [upright, just, Who conforms to the Father’s will in every purpose, thought, and action]. . And now, little children, abide (live, remain [q]permanently) in Him, so that when He is made visible, we may have and enjoy perfect confidence (boldness, assurance) and not be ashamed and shrink from Him at His coming. . If you know (perceive and are sure) that He [Christ] is [absolutely] righteous [conforming to the Father’s will in purpose, thought, and action], you may also know (be sure) that everyone who does righteously [and is therefore in like manner conformed to the divine will] is born (begotten) of Him [[r]God].

This happens frequently. People become convicted of something false, and the wrong idea "becomes clear". There's no truth to this at all, it doesn't even make sense from what you quote and describe yourself, from your own "and we see" which is false, not true, both here and elsewhere as in your more expanded description 5 years ago (it was false then, and remains false) : 01/22/2012 gdemoss said:"It isn't until after the fall that God gives the herb of the field to Adam as food. Keeping this in mind lets return to chapter one to see where it all fits into creation week. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. And we see that the addition of herb bearing seed is added after the blessing they were given to be fruitful, and multiply and fill the earth with dominion. So the fall has to be before verse 28 concluding that the fall happened on day 6 before the close of the day where God said: 31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. "

Really ? Who said that anyone who willingly chooses to follow Jesus DOES as He Does ? Who said likewise that they will purify themselves as He(Jesus) is Pure ? Who said likewise that those few who are chosen are a Temple , not to be sullied, violated, tainted by sin ? Why does the devil love it when people of the world violate the Temple, serve other gods, and practice idolatry, witchcraft, and remain sons of disobedience ?

In the content of a few of your posts, as was pointed out immediately after you posted, you not only errored, but commited false testimony about others. Your posts were copied (and quoted, along with pointing out your false witness) so there is a permanent record of your false testimony, still currently in place in this thread, and if you correct it in the future, that will be noted as well.

It is posted in the open forum , in this thread , and you did not deny it or change your posts . If you don't want to change your posts, there's nothing more to do - I'm not going to continue addressing your false witness if you can't even read the posts you posted yourself and the replies to them that followed immediately.... even if you are on a phone that makes it more difficult to go back and read your own posts, it is still your responsibility , not mine, to correct your own errors (no one else can correct your own errors) ..

I already did. I quote you as soon as you posted it, in each case.

Go back over the posts over the last 2 hours - it was pointed out 3 or 4 times now. (or at least twice) plainly.

To boast. Or avoid persecution for the cross of Christ. So then again, is that why you would go back to the law when no one else has, or are you making more false accusations by implication ?

Earlier you bore false witness against another brother in Christ saying something like this (just a few posts back and pointed out by me and by him both). Now you bear false witness against me without any warrant to , with no reason to, except I think you feel backed into a corner by your own errors.... I don't know or care why, per se.... bearing false witness is a judgable offense.

zooooom !!! Right over everything ..... out of nowhere ........ completely non sequitor (doesn't follow) ..... For most people Christ is not their Holiness, ever. and who ever said to go back to the law ? (we might have to cut this tangent short though, and go back a few posts to finish up finding the meaning of earlier posts (in the last 2 hours) ..... )

In real life, whenever anyone came to Jesus, ever, and did what Jesus says to do, they were healed/ saved/ blessed/ a family member of theirs was healed, and so on. And if they were dying from eating bats, or poison, or from committing any other sin (like idolatry, adultery, theft, etc) and turned to Jesus, came to Jesus, and did what Jesus said to do, they were still healed/ forgiven/ saved , right ?

I was reading your post casually trying to see the point, maybe getting it, maybe not, and then this ? I thought the TORAH, the Law of YHWH, as part of or as the main purpose YHWH said for TORAH, is that it leads people to Christ ...... that YHWH said that's why HE gave us TORAH ..... And elsewhere also, or maybe in the same texts of Scripture, that TORAH is LIGHT, and is enlightening, and pure, and good for the soul, etc etc .... (not that TORAH can accomplish eternal life for anyone, but a lot of good and even leading people to Christ, is the purpose of TORAH, if my memory is not failing me.....) .... And where else would you look ? (separate question entirely)

Please show where this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is stated in Scripture. Let's try again. This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ doesn't answer the question at all. For example, many religious leaders (spoken of in the NT) taught and told the people about the law every day, especially on every one of YHWH'S SABBATH DAYS, without ever telling the people about Jesus..... So , in other words, it is entirely possible to tell people all about the law without ever telling them (consciously, wittingly) about Jesus.

Sorry to note this: your post appears to be blatantly bearing false witness against a child of YHWH. I've read many many of his posts, and never once saw him emphasize the law over Jesus, ever.

Please show where this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is stated in Scripture. (btw, fwiw, I think you are entirely mistaken (just as the statement stands).)

Actually it is a very sad state of affairs. If people rightly divided God's Word, or actually if people simply chose willingly to follow Jesus, little would have had to be said or repeated so often. It is because the enemy has corrupted so much that the thread is even here.

I think I agree. I'm just not sure about everyone being "under a mandate by God to rightly divide His Word" .... since there are almost no one anywhere who does..... even amongst large groups of 'Christians' (at least in name)....

I don't know what you mean either, .... when a brand spanking new baby is born, it is certainly by sheer grace from the Almighty.... but the baby is still called unclean if neither parent is saved, even though it is a beneficiary of sheer grace from the Almighty to have breath.

Every day ! The police are often out front, and around the corner, handing out tickets to people who break the law. So if I see someone without the legally required headlights, or legally required taillights , or who have not put money in the parking meter, or who park in the pay parking lot but walk towards somewhere else after parking without paying, I warn them about the law, yes. Very frequently. ------------ How about you ? Where you live ? Do you routinely break the law ? Or obey the law ? Do you ever get a ticket/ fine / or arrested ?

Repent and believe the gospel. From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Good, and maybe even correct ! YES !

COOL! So, then, when someone wants to be adopted by YHWH the CREATOR of EVERYTHING, or to be born again by His Will, what do they need to do to become His ? --------------------------- Does it really matter why the law was given ? Do you ask a policeman why there are traffic laws ? Or ask a texas ranger why there are laws against cattle theft and rape ?