PaulTimothy
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Blam. Exactly.
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Blam. Exactly.
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http://www.resolve.org/family-building-options/donor-options/embryo-donation-myth-and-facts.html
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There was no "jab." I was speaking the truth. I'm not telling Jesus to do anything, He told us to do something. So if anything we are doing His bidding. I also PMed you at the exact same time soooo yeah....
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I will not debate any further immature language. PM me if you wish to continue your tyrade of accusations. Also just so we're clear the "errand boy" you keep referring to, is the Holy Spirit, Jesus is no longer on earth. Speaking blaspheme of the Holy Spirit is the only unforgiveable sin, so watch your language.
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You are just trolling now. I will provide you with one name, because it is public record, to appeal to your childish content. Everyone else will remain private. I can not be faulted for having visual evidence of Gods work....I myself am not invisible, nor are x-rays, blood tests, or other scans. No one can say they are free of something unless they receive a word from God or verification of a healing manifestation from a medical report. This is reality, faith necessitates all these happenings, so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. I will again reference 1 Peter 2:21, not sure how much clearer it can be given the ten commandments, the instructions of Jesus, the bible....
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Who do you think you are? That you deserve to be shown any proof? You are no more important than they are or I am, or anyone else is. Jesus is our proof, the words he left, the trail he left for us to follow. You have just name called a plethora of times and just named a majority of Christians gullible....you are the gullible one, settling for the minimum. You may not want or need God's best, but I do. I pray you are enlightened by someone who has words like a jackhammer, how else will someone be able to get through your skull.
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God nor Jesus ever promised immediate healing, there are instances where Jesus healed people and they were not healed immediately, the lepers were healed as they went and the blind men was healed after Jesus prayed twice. The battle with sickness is a battle against the devil not with God. Jesus has redeemed us from all sickness and disease, given us authority over all the powers of the enemy, sickness is a satanic opression. Jesus has done his job, "it is finished," we need to do as we were instructed and use the power we have been given the keys to.
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The gift of healing has not passed away. If you believe so, it is your loss and the loss of the people around you. You are obviously a religious person, but it does require the knowledge and faith in it to occur; it requires more than religion, it requires spirituality. I see it weekly. A man with a theory is hard pressed to argue with a man who has experience. He must have the desire and spiritually battle for it. Plenty of preachers wear glasses and even the man who is mentoring me wears glasses, but he has worn them since he was 4 and they don't bother him, he does not care to pray for his eyes to be renewed. I have already addressed the issue of Paul's thorn but it seems people don't read previous commentary. I think it's certainly appropriate to question anyone's biblical literacy, especially when they have been mislead by doctrinely incorrect teaching such as yourself. Since it need be brought up again for peoples' lack of background reading. Paul's thorn was no more a physical ailment than the inhabitabts of Canaan to the children of Israel, if you are unfamiliar with this scripture, I won't make you do your own homework, Num 33:55, or in Joshua 23:13, "they shall be...scourges in your sides, and thorns in your eyes." Did God mean that the people would crawl into their eyes? Or that they would impale themselves in their abdomens? Doubtful. Try reading 2 Cor 11 and 2 Cor 12 together again, or for the first time it seems. Remember these separations were not there, they were put there so scripture could be catalogued. This was one continous letter. Paul names all of his "infirmities" yet fails to mention any physical illness. Renew your mind with the truth. Jehovah Rapha, I am the Lord that healtheth thee, his first redemptive name infact, all of his other redemptive names are eternal, why would anyone believe just this one has been revoked? Because of your doubt and lack of knowledge. As for the commentor who keeps speaking about the importance of the eternal only, realize that Jesus died to redeem us from the curse of the law, it does not apply to us, we are eternally redeemed from it. If you are sick then you need to renew your mind and learn about the possibilities, for man it is impossible but for God nothing is impossible. When you or someone close to you becomes grievously ill, remember to inform them and remind yourself, of the eternal and not the present, 'because that is all that is important.' Did Jesus say this to the sick that came and crawled to him? Did he say no worries, your illness will only remain for the rest of your natural life, then you will be reborn. Or did he even say, do not worry, I will die in 6 months for you and after that you will have eternal life after you have been plagued with phayical hardship for your entire life.....No. He healed them. He loved them and he loves us, now, not just when we are dead and in heaven. If we were doing as Jesus instructed there would be no poverty, no hunger or homelesness, and no sickness. We keep speaking his word but we have lost the power in it, or some of us have. Be aware that Jesus said it is finished, he has given us all we need, yet we keep scrurrying about like a kitchen mouse searching for crumbs. You would be a fool to think God and especially Jesus don't care about the present, the present tense is part of eternity, and don't forget Jesus died 2,000 years ago, would you think he'd be happy at the depravity taken in so many forms throughout the world? That a majority of people don't believe that sickness was redeemed through his beatings and death because they lack the knowledge of it? That we aren't casting out devils, healing the sick, and raising the dead. Read Mark 16:17-18, his FINAL WORDS before his ascention. Don't you consider someone's final words important? How about your saviors last words? You would be a fool to think that Jesus is all smiles with the way his legacy has played out as a whole.
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That is a proper comment, your previous comments haven't been. "Since there are hundreds (or thousands) of children who could be adopted, what seems to the be problem? People unable to have children simply adopt as many as they want. This would fall in line with God's concern for orphans." First of all there are millions of orphaned children in the world, secondly adoption isn't "simple," thridly what about God's concern for the OP? That is just from disecting one comment. You are correct about the chip on my shoulder; this chip being all the comments from uninformed people, who have nothing to offer, but unscriptural or scripturally weak opinions. So you are corrent about something.
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What seems to be the problem is your inept ability to give this woman a reply deserving her time to be read. You act as if the decision is flippant, 'you can't make babies so go get one of the ones available' is basically your stance; apparently its like going to the grocery store. I pray you never have to make a decision as difficult, you'd surely be lost. PM me, I'll give you some resources.
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You are blatently ignorant and lack compassion. Your inferences of God's will obviously lack understanding of God's word. No he wasn't. You were simplifying an enormous decision for this woman by underestimating the amount of care/time/love/energy that a decision like this would take, Omega did not miss this. You are completely ignorant of professional medical practices. You are awesome. The only true correct way? This along with your other comments have shown judgement, we won't even go there, ignorance, and a blatent disregard for this women's enormous decision. Ezra, as someone who is very active on here, myself being fairly new to this forum, I would have expected a greater understanding that we live in reality and not the garden of Eden. I would have made myself a bowl of popcorn if I could have been privy to your thought process on the comment I quoted. God and Christ, represent our creator and our way, truth, and life, whom have left us the bible, however you also lacked representing the fact that the most important issue here is love. Wouldlikeadvice, it has been a few months so I hope your decision making process is going well if not completed, however if not, my advice for you; this was the wrong place for you take advice from. Total strangers who will candidly give you unsympathetic, unimformed scientific and uninformed scriptural "advice," don't deserve to offer their opinions. You would do much better speaking with those around you, who love you, who know your struggle, and finding support groups with fertility concerns and addressing the Christians in those circles. What we ALL need to remember is that we live in a fallen world and even though Jesus died to redeem us of it, the body of Christ is not doing it's job the way Jesus intended. It is always God's will for us to be healthy, this would include being fertile, but God's will does not always come to pass <I will not address these two issues on this thread, PM me or make a new thread if you wish to contend that, be prepared to have actually read the bible> Remember God's greatest wish, that we may prosper, and be in health just as our soul prospers. No matter how your child or maybe even children come to be with you, it is going to be a blessing from God. The most important thing is that when you raise your child you do so with love and with God. I will be praying for you to have clarity and peace with whatever decision your family makes. May God bless you with many children and much happiness. Shout out to Kwikphilly for her comment.
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I am currently. I am being mentored, originally this was for my own personal benefit, as I had bever been sick before in my life (nothing major anyway), but now I have this enormous desire to help destroy the suffering if others and equip them with the necessary tools for it themselves.
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Have you ever prayed for someone to be healed? Probably if youre a christian. What did you pray for? Your child with the flu? Grandma with pneumonia? Cancer in a relative? Maybe something in yourself? Where was it at? Church, or at your home, someone elses home? Going to a place where every single person is sick, finding out this one has pancreatic cancer and the entire floor is for encology, being around all people of incurable diseases, the more details you find out, the more you think, the more your belief fluctuates and doubt creeps in. Its best to have blind faith and pray without the details and leave the responsibility of knowing in God's hands. That's why.
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I think youre trying to argue about something that we agree on? Also no one is going to be as successful as Jesus, you wouldnt know if you just accidentally transferred something to them. And the faith is necessary on one of the parts, the healer gives the virue and the faith is supplied by one or the other, healer or healee.
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My theory is that being baptized, giving the recognition and making the choice to believe in God, the HS is the gift that gives you natural faith. Your amount of faith it has been made clear is not important, just that you have any, however your amount of doubt is what stops things from happening.
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Oh, to the earlier comment, haha. Well what if someone isnt healed? What if you expose someone with a weak immune system to something? Or come in contact with someone and carry it to another patient? There are many possibilities. But I have asked this question to people before and these are the answers I have gotten. I have recently been around miracles, I think it would take a lot more confidence to pray for someone in a hospital who you have to go to, rather than someone who comes to you. Something interesting I have been studying and developing is a theory I have not come across anywhere in my research. This would be that faith is not the key, the key is a total lack of doubt. The best prayers are the ones that aren't thought about, just on the fly. For me walking into a place that is full of sick people would bring an intial amount of doubt for sure, rather than in a home or a church.
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#1 lack of confidence #2 there are laws that could put that person in penalty, they could potentially be sued by the hospital or by patients #3 unbelief/doubt
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Alan Hales - your idea of Gods prosperity assurance for us is not sound. God never promised us great wealth or riches. His promises were that we would have all we needed, not to go hungry, or be homeless, naked, or poor. God did not intend for especially his workers, to be financially exaulted. If your theory was correct then Apostle Paul who did more works, labored abundantly, than any other apostle, should have been vastly wealthy. Would you dare say that Benny Hinn who has a great deal of personal wealth has forwarded the kingdom of God more than Apostle Paul? I think not. Algot - thank you for your previous comments, but if you look at Paul and Timothy's situations; Paul was not physically ill, his faith was overwhelmingly abundant (as for the few people that they say were left unhealed by the apostle, this can not be shown to be true that they were not made well later on); as for Timothy and his stomach issues it would seem pretty clear that Paul advised him to drink wine for a couple reasons, he could have easily been healed but drinking water which may have been dirty or contaminated constantly, would cause recurring stomach problems, drinking wine would eliminate drinking the contaminated water as much and some alcohol wouldn't hurt. These are very logical assumptions to make instead of people theorizing that any apostle lacked enough faith.
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Oh no no, I have done plenty of research. I am no theologian but at this point I would compare myself to an ever expanding excyclopedia of divine healing knowledge. There are plenty of people who were or are criticized that shouldn't have been or shouldn't be. Now when analyzing the ministry of Benny Hinn as the specific example, his ministry has done things, the mentor of the teacher who I am learning from, was healed at a Benny Hinn meeting, but not by Benny Hinn. Benny Hinn has used the workings of God to amass a massive amount of personal wealth. Where being successful is commendable, doing so off of something Godly, is not. "Freely you have reveived, freely give" "its easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the gates of heaven." Benny Hinn, himself, in particular is a black eye on the charismatic movement. While at one of his miracle revivals at a University, the students set up an experiment, which catalogued the people who were healed, then noticed these same people getting on his tour bus at the end of the evening. There are plenty who, however controversial, are controversial for the right reason.
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My understanding of divine healing has been greatly expanded, where initially it seemed like a lottery, to where I was looking for individuals, to where now anyone can utilize this gift and I am seeing miracles all around me through a healing class. I must say however in regards to your first comment, there are plenty of fraudulant "men of God." Just like any other profession there are good and bad apples.
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He must have had a pretty convincing cried out pretty well for just sinking into the water. I think we're on the same page with this, however my faith is certainly being tested through the things I have done. On a few occasions including last nighg I have prayed, fine, don't heal me, but let your presense be known, let me feel your love, is my quote from last night. Peter is afraid to get wet and he's immediately there, I would be lying if I didnt say my faith has been shaken.
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He must have had a pretty convincing cried out pretty well for just sinking into the water. I think we're on the same page with this, however my faith is certainly being tested through the things I have done. On a few occasions including last nighg I have prayed, fine, don't heal me, but let your presense be known, let me feel your love, is my quote from last night. Peter is afraid to get wet and he's immediately there, I would be lying if I didnt say my faith has been shaken.
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I feel I should make the statement that I am an intelligent person. I understand the concepts of the things I am asking and looking for. It seems I get many, "what is your faith? Do you believe in Jesus?" types questions. I guess its possible, however I find it highly unlikely that someone who doesnt believe in these things and isnt acquainted with the word of the bible would be doing what I am doing. Now to respond to you Reinitin. Thank you for taking the time and showing some care. If anyone said I healed someone, they would be discredited immediately, so I am not looking for a false messiah. I do not believe there is someone currently who could walk up to me and dispense my disease and anyone elses disease with a single prayer. What I believe is there are people who have a closer or stronger relationship to this aspect of God/Jesus and especially the Holy Spirit. When they pray the average of their peritions and prays is higher than yours or mine when dealing with physical healing. As far as waiting I read one explination about a guy who was seeking something from God and came to a pastor or the like for guidance. He told the man to test God. However we are of course not supposed to test God, the seeking man said no! We are never to test God. The pastor said this is not what I mean child. You believe in God, you know that he is all, or I am. He knows you better than you know yourself, for you are not testing God to see if he is real or has the ability to do sowmthing. Not many things are for sure but God knows you do not have eternity on this earth. So while you have the chance to ask for something you need, test God, test his word and see the wonders that will abound. Now do I totally agree with this, ehhh, but if you come to God with no ill thought I don't think that God is going to condemn you for "testing" him and his word. I am seeking God all the time, consantly, learning, reading, researching, praying, meditating, looking for other believers. I am doing my part as I can see it. I do not have eternity, healthy or sick. Though Jesus came to bring life and I want it abundantly.
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You're right I should not have been so short, what I meant in my head was; I don't intend to sit by and have God do everything for me, if I am empowered enough to still take a part in what I am praying for, I will. I understand your stance on the situation, but you have already been healed, your stance is of secured confidence, you have first hand experience with the utmost relief and thanks as I would too. However you can't expect someone to feel the way you feel because of your experience. I am praying fervently, I am seeking him constantly, I am expanding the horizons and possibilities of how he may deliver me from this situation. To "relax" is to release, to diminish, to slacken, I am holding on as tight as possible for as long as possible. Seek the Lord and his strength; seek his presence continually! 1 Chronicles 16:11 ESV With my whole heart I seek you; let me not wander from your commandments! Psalm 119:10 ESV I love those who love me, and those who seek me diligently find me. Proverbs 8:17 ESV The Lord looks down from heaven on the children of man, to see if there are any who understand, who seek after God. Psalm 14:2 ESV and so on.