Zoltan777

I firmly believe mingling will happen again at the end time. I am just preparing myself for this event as it's coming soon. So in the future if any angel girl tries to ask me out I am going to say no. You should get ready too. ? But let's be more serious, I have read the article. Even if you try to give a different interpretation to Genesis 6 you can't deny book of Enoch credibility as it is quoted by Peter and Jude in the new testament.

I have read just now book of adam not entirely but I can clearly see that is nothing else just a fiction novel. Satan and his angels were not put in prison but have they not done more evil than those fallen angels of God? It has a completely different reason why they are not condemned still. The reason that human's lifespan was reduced drastically is to prevent God's angels marrying humans again probably the punishment is another reason. Regarding satan and his angels I believe Antichrist will be the offspring of satan. Also, there are many myths stating that humans and angels were mingling during the history. It doesn't necessarily mean they must be giants in appearance. I know it's just a legend but like about Romulus and Ramus the founders of the roman empire I can imagine it's true. I still don't know where to stand how the giants survived the flood. It can be true what you have said especially recalling scriptures where humans is called brood of vipers. And for being children of God we have to reborn again. Why? Who's is our father in the spiritual world if not God? About dinosaurs it's really hard to go against the science and prove it they lived together with us. If you have any proof (not just speculation) I would like to read it. But for me it's more easy to believe that they lived in an old world which was destroyed by God after lucifer rebellion then He made everything new.

Matter of time it will be backfired.

I don't know. What does it say to you?

To see the evilness of the people is not the tribulation yet. Tribulation is when people will be systematically killed for not taking the mark of satan. This is a sinful generation I agree. I absolutely hate it and I can't see the news or watch the telly otherwise I loose my temper. But I don't think it reached the level of Sodom or the age of Noah. We are still sinking.

Well, as long as there is a strong leader in position you are right. This tactic can be used for a while but it's like double edge sword. As soon as a weak leader comes enemy will see an opportunity to conquer and take everything. And then this starving strategy will be backfired. So it's not about food supply but who is the leader.

I know that you are a pre-rapture believer but maybe you put the rapture waaaay earlier. God brought Noah out and saved him from the judgment but he experienced all the evilness of his age. He was there when the angels mingled with humans. He saw everything. My question is do you think it can happen again before the rapture?

Prophetic sign on 23 September is doubtful. Okay I can give you that. But it's quite hard to twist what happened in Genesis 6.

So you mean America can stop the war by starving his enemies to death? I am a bit lost not sure what you meant?

Thanks.

Ha-ha I'm still trying to find out what she meant to say.

That's quite interesting about the the two different giants. But I disagree with your conclusion. I don't know if you have read the book of Enoch but it puts this story in a different perspective. Those fallen angels did not rebel against God together with lucifer in the same time but later in the time of Enoch when they decided to choose women for themselves. They were God's servants but they had fallen and became satan's servant. So where those giants came from. My conclusion is that satan's angels previously already mingled with humans when those angels has fallen. And I don't believe that dinosaurs lived with humans together. That's just against the logic. But I am still thinking how come some of them survived the flood? Maybe you are right. But I got a feeling that you're not. I can't prove it though.

I think it's related to false teachings of evil spirits when people try to be very philosophical.

With military background the only thing I can say, it depends on the situation. In a hopeless war there is always a bullet spared in the pocket. I have read many military books and commentary and can't blame those who did it. What would you choose? Would you let yourself to be tortured, raped and humiliated to death? As for me I don't want to die like a dog. So I trust God that He won't let me sink that deep but will save me.

Jesus compered the end time with the age of Noah and age of Sodom. Both have one major problem in common which is sexual uncleanness. Especially, interesting age of Noah where humans mingled with angels. I was playing with the thoughts about that and considering rev 12 and the coming prophetic sing on 23 September a verse has come up in my mind: "Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth." Do you think it would be possible to happen again what happened in the age of Noah? I think it does.

The wars have never been decided by how much food a country has but how powerful they think they are. It's quite the opposite what you have said. The more they are satisfied the less likely they will attack. Like Saud Arabia. But if they don't have much food it just makes them more hungry for war. Because their poverty can be used to bring hatred against those who has more. If the enemy sees their is a week leader they are more willing to strike. If there is a strong leader they would rather pull back until someone comes with a feeble hand. I am pretty sure that evil leader of N Korea would be more willing to attack if Hilary were president.

I didn't know about the meteor shower and Dracon. I don't think it can be denied anymore that the prophetic signs in rev 13 will be fulfilled soon. I was thinking of what you said and I had same strange thoughts after that. Firstly, I don't think the war would break up YET. It's too early. Some claims that rapture will take place. I don't think so, as Jesus said His bride the church will be perfect and and flawless. Like a virgin. Well...at the moment we as a church are not like that. But when you mentioned Paul and Barnabas as Jupiter and Mercury the two witnesses popped in my mind. I don't know what will happen after this event but I lean to believe that some persons as a spiritual gifts appear like Paul and Barnabas to start collecting God's sheep and preach the gospel and His coming. Also, before I found out this celestial event I had a dream about it (about a month or so). In the sky a woman was giving birth. Around her was many angels shouting 'Come on America you can do it.' Then I heard God's voice above me saying 'I will reveal my plan when the two witnesses are appointed.' I am still very confused. Something happening in the second heaven that's for sure which will change this world. One more thing, a solar eclipse will happen again 7 year later on April 8, 2024. over America.

If you have loving and supporting family I would say by all means. It's not about confessing your sin but asking their help to support you. I am a father too. He is still young, 7. but I would like to take care of my son if he is having problems later. I would feel "betrayed" if he wasn't asking my help because it means he is not trusting me. I do understand you feel awkward for telling this to your parents but just write a letter and hand it over to them. Don't make such a fuss about it. But it works only if you have a good family!!!!

Okay, firstly I am sorry if I offended you. I didn't mean it. Secondly, I have read through your previous comment. It was hard though. Write a bit less my eyes were skipping. Thirdly, you can believe that the earth is flat or globe or deltoid or whatever. It doesn't make you better person anyway. So I am not judging you. BUT...Previously as I mentioned book of Enoch is not about our solar system but he went behind the screen in the spiritual realm and wrote down his experience how the heavenly bodies are working that moves everything around in their season as it is seen on the earth when you look up to the sky. He had no any geological or astronomical knowledge about the form of the earth or the celestial bodies or the solar system but purely he used his common sense when he tried to describe what he's seen. People of old age had a very simple language and they said things as it was. Like there is no such word in the original bible like Heaven they called it sky. Or angels, they called it messenger. Or cherubim, they called it cabbage (because they look like a cabbage) and so on. Behind any biblical terms in your english bible you will find a simple word in the original scripture. They always used common sense when they try to describe something. Like when they looked up to the sky and saw the sun moving. So they wrote down the sun is moving. But it doesn't mean it is like that and doesn't matter if it's not like that. The point is not what orbits around what. Enoch was trying to describe with his own words that behind everything you see on earth there are angels and spiritual creatures working in order in the same way as the natural world moves. In the same way, when he said I went to the end of the earth (spiritually) he went to the point where was nothing else to see. But it doesn't mean that was at the edge or the flat earth. We grew up with the knowledge but people back then had no much information about the solar system so they simple described what they saw. Hopefully the flat earth mystery in the Bible is solved now.

If someone claims that his book is incorrect and that's way is not in the Bible then you have two option to make this statement valid: 1. Enoch was laying. Which is very unlikely knowing he was a righteous man. And his book was intended for his son before ha was taken up. Mind you there was no Bible that time so the obvious choice was to pass on his knowledge. Why would a righteous man lie to his own son? 2. Somebody has added or taken out from his writing. Well, the original book is not left with us so it looks like it might happened. But I don't think Peter or Jude from the new testament would have used his book as a reference if it was like that. It's not in the Bible because it has way too much information. Which can cause more problem than use. He seen everything, even Jesus Christ. So I can see why the Jews refused to canonise it. I believe his statements was right but it's simple beyond my limited knowledge to fully comprehend it. One thing is sure, his book is not a proof the earth is flat.

I corrected it but it has the same meaning though.

Okay...Okay, I didn't want to go there but you asked for it. Enoch was in the spiritual realm and he wrote down his experience about the celestial bodies and their routes and orders which actually are angels and their tasks. How the whole system works. His book is about the structure and operation of this realm and not about our solar system. The stars, the moon, wind, snow, rain etc only the symbols of the real things. He never mentioned the earth is flat. It's flat only in your head. And who gave you that 'thanks' symbol???

I just read through his book but haven't seen anything about flat earth. And I won't read your comment. That's just nonsense

OH MY GOSH!!!!!! The earth is flat yet again!

I do take the Bible as it is but I wouldn't like to bring verses up here as it is not the right thread for that. I just don't understand how can people...ah..never mind.