The_Truth_Seeker

This concept of tampering with creation, in my opinion is crossing over the boundary line. How many people here know of The Nephilim? This man and machine concept, like brain computer interface, this sounds like turning man into a programmable biological robot. I don't get how so many people in the world today cannot see where we as a society are headed. There are even people who don't know much about scripture but can still see where we are headed. But going back to the mark of the beast, let us look at the image of the beast first. Why are people put into a position to submit to this thing? And failure to do so will result in being killed? When looking at the strongs concordance concerning the word "worship" used in Rev 13:15, the greek word is G4352 proskuneo, and having a read of the many meanings, the term "worship" could also relate to a simple act of submission depending on context. What is also interesting is the word "killed" when looking at strongs concordance G615 apokteino can also mean "to destroy." Why are the people put into a position that they have to submit to this "image"? And if they refuse, they end up being killed or destroyed? This is very important, because when I look at the matters concerned from a logical point of view, taking into account with what is happening today, the conclusion I come to is that people have either been infected or at risk of infection from some kind of deadly disease, that if said people refuse to submit, then perhaps said people would be considered a risk to the general population in which case such people would have to be dealt with. There has to be a reason why people are put into a position to accept the mark of the beast, and looking at everything today, to me, in my opinion, it looks like a connection between some kind of deadly disease threatening the world. Now the mark of the beast cannot be Sunday worship (as some people believe) because it just does not add up. How some people came to the conclusion Sunday worship is The Mark of the Beast is beyond me.

Well with what is happening around the world, especially with this COVID 19, and now hearing that there is a mutated version that can infect three to nine times faster, and also there is the threat of a new swine flu, makes you really question where we are headed. More and more I have been thinking that the mark of the beast is some kind of treatment in relation to some kind of disease pandemic (or maybe even multiple diseases and so on) that threatens the world on a global scale. The detailed description given in Rev 16.2, perhaps could be a reference to some kind of treatment that has been rushed on a global scale, with all safety protocols ignored, which may explain the side effect? Perhaps the treatment/medication used is the mark of the beast or some other component that is mixed into the mixture is the mark of the beast? Now with this double helix DNA and RNA single strand splicing, I have read upon some of this stuff (along with Recombinant DNA), and it is out of my league, but it makes me think of a reference in Book of Yasher in 4:18 where there is a reference of teaching the mixing one animal species with another. This is "tampering with creation" to put it another way, or "corrupting creation". The Iron and Clay reference in the Book of Daniel 2:42-43. This could be look at more than one way. One way, the description is like that of a Achilles Heel, a weakness. But if one was to look at it from a technological point of view, it could be a reference to the merging of man and machine/technology, of which we are seeing this is happening today. We are in so much trouble today, that to put it bluntly, I don't think many people can truly even comprehend where we are headed. Now when I was looking at the description in Rev 20:4, the word "beheaded" as used in many english translations, however the greek word used is G3990 pelekizo, which is strange because in other passages in the new testament, when you see the word "beheaded" the greek word concerned is G607 apokephalizo. The Aramaic Bible in Plain English translation instead of using the word "beheaded" in Rev 20.4, the words "cut off" are used instead. Going by this translation, question is cut off from what? I was reading the other day looking at the history of Leproacy and how it was dealt with in the US at the time. In the world we live in today, does the Mark of the Beast have any similarities to how the people with Leproacy were dealt with in the past? Taking people away from families, put into life long quarantine? My question is how was Rev 20.4 actually understood in the greek? Is it a reference to people being cut off from society? We do see more and more evidence of people having to go into quarantine in relation to this COVID 19. What if we reach a point in society, where the disease outbreaks are so bad that in order for society to go back to normal, people would have to agree to be treated with something or be put into permanent quarantine?

Have you ever come across ID2020? I too have heard about this digital certificate concept. Then you got this quantum dot and vaccine using a microneedle patch. You read up on it, medical information stored under the skin. Invisible to the naked eye, but can still be seen using other methods. You know what is scary with this microneedle patch, if one was to associate this technology with the mark of the beast, you have a situation where people would literally inject the mark of the beast themselves, gives DIY (do it yourself) a whole new meaning. See I have so much questions on the mark of the beast, what is the true purpose of this thing? The question I find myself often asking, is it to do with mind control? Perhaps the purpose of such a device is to "robotize" people to the point where a person could be programmed like a machine? I don't know. But there is just too much going on today. We are being taught what to say and how to think, and with a lot of the junk on tv today, to the point people are being programmed with alot of junk information. Problem also today is we come to a point in time where people have also lost the ability to analyze and think rationally and logically. Will the mark of the beast be some kind of backdoor method that will make it possible for people to be programmed like machines? The only logical conclusion I come to, when taking into account the consequences of accepting the mark of the beast, there has to be some kind of permanent change to the individual of which there is no coming back from.

The more I keep up about this COVID 19, the more I feel uneasy about it. I just feel it deep down in me that something is not right with this COVID 19. I too know of the greek word pharmakeia. I myself have had suspicions mandatory vaccinations could be the means of enforcing the mark of the beast. The technology exists that people can be implanted some sort of tracking technology. The description of people not being in a position to buy or sell unless they have some type of mark does fit the description of people being in some type of isolation. Now for those who think the "mark" is not physical, the greek word that is used for "mark" is G5480 charagma, and that can mean either a scratch or etching. Can also relate to a stamp or a imprinted mark. Everything points to this "mark" being physical. Now in the age we live in, the question is what is this "mark"? Is it some kind of electronic device implanted inside people as confirmation of some kind of procedure? Is it some kind of biosensor that is implanted into people? I see the odd place around me lately that depending where you go, your forehead is scanned in case you have a temperature. There are places that are recording names and other details of said people when they go inside said business. The question is, why do people need this "mark" in order to buy or sell? Or to put another way, why do people need this mark to go to the shopping centres or to their places of work? If we look at the description given in Rev 13.16-17, it seems everyone is affected. We have to look at this logically, what is the one thing that can affect people, regardless of how much money they have or what they do for a living? The only logical conclusion that I come to, is a disease that is a threat to everyone. If one has some kind of disease that is a threat to others, then said person or people are put into quarantine, and from the evidence we see depending where people live, being in quarantine means one cannot even step out to the shops or go to their work place.

I have for some time been studying this, have had some opinions and theories, but recently I have had another further look into this, and especially since this covid-19 epidemic has made me rethink. Lately I have been thinking that Mystery Babylon could be a reference to China? I have my reasons for thinking this. Now when I read Rev chap 17, the question that I have been asking is why is this harlot/woman hated? There must be a reason for this? How many nations today, especially since this covid 19, are now against China? There is something also interesting that I found out, somewhere in central Beijing is what is called "Forbidden City" and going by what is on Wiki, the Chinese name is Zijin Cheng which means "Purple Forbidden City"

I think the preparations for people to accept the mark of the beast has been happening for some time now. The world we live in today, everyone has some kind of electronic record somewhere, every person has a number for this, or a number for that, but no matter what way one looks at it, we are being prepared. Reality is our level of technological advancement we are today, this mark of the beast system can become reality any time. To illustrate, let us look at the following what if scenario. A disease outbreak threatens world civilization, as a preventative to contracting such a disease (or perhaps as a means to cure such a disease) requires people to be injected with something, but at same time such a injection contains some kind of unique means of identification that indicates such a person has been treated. So in this scenario, when people go to either there work place to work or shopping mall or markets to buy stuff, you either have individual scanning people (or perhaps even some kind of sophisticated body scanner) to see if they are safe (in other words, treated) or if people are not treated they are refused entry. The reference in Rev 16.2, the description indicates some kind of side effect. What if, the description given in Rev 16.2 is in relation to some kind of foreign body/bodies that is powered by lithium battaries? And what happens should those batteries end up leaking? If people are not aware, have a read on what happens when lithium comes contact with flesh.

Has to be something physical. I agree on that. A further examination of the writings, when looking at the greek is to look at the words buy and sell. Now looking at the greek, the word buy is G59 agorazo, this word can also mean to be in the market place. Market places (or shopping centres) would involve gathering of many people. Now with the word sell, in the greek that is G4453 poleo and that can also mean to barter. If you break it down, if people are selling, they are doing their job. Look what happened with this COVID 19 and the global impacts. We seen countries gone into lockdown, and depending where one lives, your lucky if the retail shops that sell the essentials were open. So to some degree, depending on where one lives, depending on the type of job they were doing, they could not go into work, or unless for essential reasons, said person could not go out. What if a situation should arise that as a consequence of some kind of global disease outbreak, in order for people to do their jobs or step out of their homes to buy what they need, they need to have some kind of "evidence" to show they are not a threat to other people? At the moment, as a result of COVID 19, depending on where a person lives it is mandatory for said person to have contact-tracing software from what I have researched. At the end of the day, if a person is unable to buy or sell, unless they have some kind of mark or other idenitifying feature, said person would have to be in an environment where said individual is isolated or cut off from those who already have such a mark.

I think everyone should really pay attention to what is happening. I am not a pre-trib believer, and I know many who are not, but whether a person is or not, that is the choice of the individual to believe. My concern however is where we are headed when it comes to this beast system. Reality is, looking at all the evidence, if you look at the description given concerning the mark of the beast, if said people are not in a position to be able to go to the shops, or do their jobs, there really is only one situation I can think of that best fits that description, said person is either in prison or in quarantine. And we see evidence in some places that if people are in quarantine, they cannot even go out to get anything, not even go to their jobs. My personal opinion, with all that has been happening around the world, making abortion legal, making same-sex marriages legal, I think now as a society we may have reached the end of the rope, and now have entered into preparations for the separation process. The separation of those considered righteous from those who are unrighteous and pretenders. Now the reason I don't accept the pre-trib concept, is because if all the righteous people have been raptured, then who is left need to be convinced to accept the mark of the beast? Cannot be the unbelievers or the fakes, because by reason and logic, those who have already been conditioned to accept the mark of the beast will be getting it. To convince someone to accept something if they have already accepted is not logical. Another point I will add, if a pre-trib believer accepts the rapture to come first, if the situation comes where a required injection (whether it be a vaccine, or a electronic implant) that meets all the requirements and conditions of the mark of the beast, will you accept such a injection? Even though you believe the rapture will come first? Think on this.

Here is something worth thinking on, and see if this makes any sense based on current situations. Is the mark of the beast some kind of requirement that is needed to comply with some kind of "Public Health Regulation"? It is frightening where we are headed, considering our time frame period, events that are happening around the world, we have to face the possibility that we are going to be seeing this come into force.

You know, I have myself wondered if we have been living on borrowed time. The question is have we now reached that point in time where we will now be tested? But this COVID 19 that is happening world wide, we see it crippling the entire system on a global scale. I would say now the dominoes are now all falling in a line. Society is crumbling as we speak. We seeing more restrictions in place around in many places, some more worse than others. And based on what happened in Demark ,with the forced vaccination laws, it stands to reason other countries may soon follow. The description and details given concerning the mark of the beast, mandatory vaccination does fit the description. I have been thinking the "Cashless Society" where we are headed and "Mandatory Vaccines" are two sides of the same coin.

With all the technologies we have today, the advances in medical technology, computer technology and so on, and with all what we are seeing today with this corona virus world wide, we could be witnessing events that lead up to the mark of the beast.

In case people are not aware of this, read up on the emergency coronavirus laws that has passed in Denmark. Looking at forced testing, quarantine and treatment. Reading the article, prohibited access to public places, supermarkets, shops and so on. For all we know this could be the stepping stone towards the mark of the beast, there is just too much similarities.

The connection to the right hand and forehead may have something to do with the body temperature. Some time ago I came across an article (may still be able to find it on the internet), that the most ideal place for a microchip implant would be the right hand or the forehead, something to do with the body temperature. With the mark of the beast, when you break it down, looking at the verses concerned Rev 13:16-17, now prior to accepting the mark of the beast, where are they? The people concerned? So before accepting this mark, it stands to reason there has to be some kind of event that prevents people from going out either to buy what they need, or going to their jobs. The question is, what kind of event is going to lead people to eventually get the mark of the beast? Look what is happening in the world today with this corona virus, so much chaos, and the thing is, when read in the proper context, their is only one thing I can really think of that can affect everybody, regardless whether a person is wealthy or not, whether a person is in a position of power or just a everyday ordinary citizen, the only thing I can think of that affects everybody is a disease outbreak of some kind. The question is, is the mark of the beast going to become a requirement due to some kind of major disease outbreak?

What happened to the original? When I look at The Gospel according to Mark, Luke, Matthew and John, "according to" can mean "as stated by". So the question is at one point in time was there a original Gospel? It stands to reason there had to be. Now whether it exists or not, that would be subject to debate.

How many people here are from Australia? There was a incident that involved a shopper pulling out a knife in a supermarket, and it was related to toilet paper. Search on google for this incident. Apparently some places in Australia, supermarkets have sold out of toilet paper.Panic buying Look at what is becoming of society, this level of madness, a person pulls out a knife all for toilet paper? What hope has this world got.

Have a look at Rev 6:12-14, and in verse Rev 6.12, the word "earthquake" is G4578 seismos, which is interesting because because going by strongs concordance, it can mean a commotion, gale, or earthquake. For those who have not seen it, go on you tube have a look at the Tsar Bomb. Secondly, look at the description in Mark 13:24-27, now look in Mark 13:24, notice the reference to the days concerned "after that tribulation" and by reading the verse, an event has happened. Now looking in verse Mark 13:27, there is still mention of the elect (and I get the impression that whatever event happens, the elect in one way or another are protected, but that is my opinion on what I understand).

You know when I read in context Mark 13:24-25, and then look at Rev 6:12-14, it almost sounds like some kind of immensely powerful nuclear weapon of some type. Question, when reading everything into context, can the Second Coming of The Messiah be connected to a event that results in the detonation of a Nuclear weapon of such power, capable of destroying all life on this planet, that without intervention from a higher power, all life itself would perish?

Thing is if looking at the original greek word for "mark", G5480 charagma, this could also relate to engraving. If you look at the action involved in engraving, when one engraves onto some kind of surface, the surface concerned will have to be cut into. How many times can people accidentally cut themselves with a knife in the kitchen? The action concerned involved cutting through the skin. I think a alternative word in a medical context could be a "incision". So if someone was to inject themselves with something, that could qualify because the needle used has to go through the skin. I have been starting to think if the mark of the beast could be disguised as some type of antidote in response to a major disease outbreak that literally threatens everyone. The question is, what is going inside the person once they accept the mark of the beast?