The_Truth_Seeker

I like to see how others see this verse, but what does this sound like? Lately I have come across something very interesting, something called "BDS Movement" (Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions). The manner in which Rev 18.11-13 describes the details appear to give the impression that "Babylon" has been subjected to some form of "retaliation" on a economic scale? Could we be looking at sanctions or embargoes? There must be some reason as to why no one wants to do business with the entities (whether it be individuals or companies) concerned? I have heard theories about USA being Babylon, and even China, but I don't think it is either of them. That is my opinion anyways.

The thing is, whatever this mark is, the framework has to be up and running and fully operational. So whatever bugs need to be ironed out, it would have to be done before everything is operational, as this sounds the most logical to me. That description of not being able to buy and sell, it sounds a lot like not being able to get goods or services unless you have the correct "passcode" to use a expression. But everything points to this "authentication". I only theorizing here, but with recent events of what has been happening, I see the image of the beast having more than one component to it, with all multiple components connected. I starting to think "Global Digital ID combined with Digital Currency" is part of this image, and at same time having laws passed that require people to have a mandatory "authenticator" put inside of them to be compliant with the new system. I tend to wonder if this "Great Tribulation" could be a reference to a transitioning stage of going from the old system to the new system?

Well I myself have been thinking that it is forever part of a person with no way of removing it. Thing is, are we looking at some kind of "means of identification" done at our very core? Is it going to be part of our genetic makeup to use a expression? But what is interesting is that the "right hand" in reference to the MOTB may not literally be referring to our right hands, but perhaps our DNA? Has anyone here heard the term "right-handed double helix"?

I know there has been previous topics on the Mark of The Beast (MOTB), but this I want to specifically talk about Digital ID and Digital Currency and where we are headed. I personally think this prophecy was meant to be literally understood for the time period concerned. Now I at some point often have thought about the Covid vaccine as being a possible candidate for the MOTB. In theory vaccine mandate is a strong match and what we seen in past few years was certainly was going that way. But the problem is, with the vaccine mandates there was some variables, and generally speaking, now it makes no difference if you are vaxxed or not. Thing is, logic and reason dictate the system needs to be set up in such a way, it has to be a rock solid financial system, with means of verifying individuals in a way that that cannot be faked, or compromised by other means. For many websites we visit, how often we use MFA/2FA? See whatever the MOTB is, it has to have a purpose. This "mark" has a function. I think what we looking at here is this concept here "Access Control". And I think the MOTB has something to do with Biometric authentication, but instead of carrying a device (like smartphone) to authenticate, we people will become the devices that does the authenticating. If we people are indeed to have some kind of foreign body/bodies inside of us to allow us to be used as a form of "biometric authenticator" I cannot see any way around this.

I have been going over and over again concerning "Mystery Babylon", trying to see what makes the most sense. Now there are interesting theories (whether it is the US, or even China) but has many people thought about the possibility that Mystery Babylon could be a reference to the monetary system we have today? Could we be looking at a total economic collapse of some kind that may parallel the stock market crash (and Great Depression) of 1929? It does sound like a major economic failure, but here poses a interesting question. What happens if the USD collapses and becomes worthless (and the USD is the world reserve currency)? Could we be looking at global collapse of all economies? Reading up a bit on The Great Depression/Stock Market crash 1929, it does seem to draw some parallels depending on the verses read in Chapter 18 of Revelation. Worth thinking on.

This could me more in line say if people buy 1kg of beef, maybe it not fully beef that is 1kg, but something injected also into the meat to make it appear it is 1kg. Also, it may also relate to some packages instead of outright stating the weight, for example 500g, it may not be accurate but a "estimate". Not talking 1 or 2 grams short, but if people buy 500g of beef mince for example, that is what they expect, not something that is in total 400g.

Just to side track for a moment, but looking at the "image of the beast", I think this too needs more looking at. The emerging technologies has made me re-evaluate. I am more on the lines of thinking the image of the beast may be a sophisticated state of the art surveillance system. Now lately I have come across something called VLC (Visible light communication), and 6G. VLC is quite a interesting read, so it makes me think for a moment, could the image of the beast be literally powered by the people? I wonder if this image is connected to this concept of "reducing ones carbon footprint?" It really needs a lot of thought Why do people have to submit to this "image"? And by the way the word "worship" may actually relate to people submitting or complying.

See what a lot of people are not seeing is that there are two concepts when dealing with "force" we need to look at. Firstly, we can rule out "direct force" as a method, as such a method does not involve the person giving their consent. If a person says no, but is strapped down against their will, and then given it anyway, how can such a person be on the receiving end for such a punishment? So that alone tells us that "direct force" method is not the way. Now what about "indirect force"? Pressure people and coerce them? No MOTB=No social life, no going out, not able to buy stuff, pay rent, cannot work, cannot visit family and friends, or friends and families cannot visit said person and anything else that is connected to individuals life. And make the life of people so unbearable if they refuse to get the MOTB, that they either cave in or get dealt with another way? Just remember, in the vaccine mandate periods, depending where one was, they may say people were not being forced, but there was a fine print if they didn't agree to it, the suffer the consequences.

Everything indeed points to it to being literal. Now we may not be able to see it with the naked eye, but with the technologies there is today, have places set up with scanning technology, it can detect if a person is emitting some kind of "foreign body/bodies" inside of them that is giving off a specific signal. It really is not that hard to picture where we are headed. Wireless technologies, digital currency, digital ID, smart cities. To me, if the MOTB is connected to every aspect of peoples lives, then the frame work needs to be put in place. Everything has to be set up and operational. Reason and logic dictate there has to be mechanisms in place that prevent people from getting a fake mark in order to workaround the system. See I don't know if the vaccine mandates was a attempt to trial the Digital ID (can call it whatever they like) but once a system has been setup, complete track and trace, no privacy, smart cities, and a requirement for people to get a Digital ID, picture in your mind what will life be like? And for Digital ID to really work, it stands to reason there must be some kind of means of authentication (like we see today with 2FA/MFA). Perhaps this is where some kind of implant/s are inside the body, that gives off some kind of signal indicating said person is who they really are?

I don't think the descriptions given are in anyways symbolic. I think they were described in a way so for the time period concerned, certain people perhaps with interaction with others who have a passion for truth will be able to piece it together (or perhaps such people concerned, may be revealed to them by a higher power as to what it is). But this is my opinion. The forehead could be a reference to the Pineal Gland. The question however, what is so bad about this thing to warrant the punishment described in Rev 14.9-11? My opinion, based on what I have read and understand, and going by logic and reason, the people that get this thing, have become something else. They may look human, but at same time, can no longer be considered human. We could be looking at a "GMO S.M.A.R.T. compliant humanoid" for lack of a better expression.

I too have come across the 144000 being a reference to our DNA. To use a expression, to those who get the MOTB, they be a patented product, a product of the corporation and so on. In this world of databases and product catalogues, it does make sense those who take this thing will be part of some kind of database and so on. See even though some things are beyond me, deep down I knew there had to be something really bad about the MOTB. See I think the people who do get the MOTB, I think they will have become what I like to term as "programmable people"

What you may be referring to is people being "indirectly forced" as opposed to directly forced. This too is what I have been thinking. A person has to make a choice. It cannot be directly forced onto someone, considering the punishment that awaits for said person when reading rev 14.9-11. Look what was seen during the vaccine mandates, it not compulsory, but if not get, not able to go here, or there, visit people and so on. Just try to picture in your mind if (or when) digital ID and CBDC becomes mandatory. By the way, this is something I didn't know before, but I don't think the "right hand" reference concerning the mark of the beast is literally referring to a person's right hand. Recently I been reading some articles, that DNA of every organism is a right-handed double helix.

When looking at the word "worship" it can looked at from another angle, an act of submission or obeisance.

When I first heard about Global Pandemic Treaty, and I read more into it, what happens once a member country signs up, a thought occurred to me at that moment, and I found myself wondering, "what if the Image of this Beast could be some kind of "agreement" that requires nations to submit to and carry out the conditions and directives of such a agreement ?" It poses some interesting questions this concept. Firstly, what happens to nations that refuse to sign up? Secondly what happens to individuals who refuse to comply? Have a read up on Global Pandemic Treaty, and see what happens once a country signs up.

I too think we are going to be having some real difficult times ahead of us. Ever since this covid pandemic we be having, I always felt we could be looking at events that can relate to the four horsemen of the apocalypse. Cannot call it coincidence, there is just too much happening. And the thing is, we could be just seeing the tip of the iceberg.