Gershom_young

Why do you think these women are forgotten?

The answer is in the word. A woman is a womb-man. A man with the ability to produce life via her womb.

It's not, or it wouldn't still be done routinely today. Might be a little painful for the child (if anyone even noticed), but this would probably pale in comparison to the pain experienced by the mother during the birth itself.

And yet she skillfully performed the circumcision herself with a rock? And remember, if it was about Zipporah, wouldn't it have been both boys who needed circumcising, instead of just one? I'm not sure there is any evidence Zipporah thought circumcision was barbaric, but if she was anything like women today, she would have wanted it done. I guess this is possible, but her ability to do the circumcision indicates to me there may have been another cause - Moses himself, perhaps? Wasn't Zipporah sent away at a later date - this also is not usually the case with henpecking wives, who like to be about in order to have someone to peck.

But didn't Zipporah only circumcise one son? My thinking was therefore it was the younger son, possibly because the older was already circumcised. Zipporah was required to circumcise "on-the-fly", so to speak. She didn't have time to prepare, she didn't have time to change into her "work" clothes, she didn't even have time to get a proper izmel, just grabbing hold of the nearest flint she could find. I would imagine this would have been reason alone for her to be upset, without considering any other issues. This said, does the passage indicate she was disgusted? Some commentaries indicate she didn't agree with circumcision, but I don't really see the proof of that in the passage. And if she was a daughter of Abraham, wouldn't it be more likely that she was disgusted with uncircumcision?

This is interesting. I didn't realise Midian was an heir of Abraham. I agree about Tzipporah - probably one "strange" thing was that a female did the circumcising, but that might be more about male pride than peculiarity. That said, if Jethro was descended from Abraham, I would think all three (Jethro, Moses and Tzipporah) would have wanted the sons circumcised.

I had never realised this myself. I've always thought of Zipporah as the type of heroine the woman was created to be, and that her quick action saved not only Moses' life, but preserved her son/s for an inheritance in Israel. However, the conspicuous absence of Moses' sons from the entry into Canaan probably means it wasn't such a happy ending for the family. Perhaps Moses' wife and her sons went back to Ethiopia, and brought with them the Israelite traditions, to prepare the eunuch for Philip's explanation of Isaiah in the New Testament? I understand Ethiopia was one of the countries that practiced circumcision historically (I'm not sure about other Jewish laws), so I guess this was probably learned from Israel at some stage.

I read on another site that physical circumcision removed the "foreskin of sin". Is that correct?

Technically speaking, you are correct! :-) Choose your moths carefully, children. Or you might not be Jewish enough! :0

I think the OP was referring to a common tradition today to determine one's "Jewishness" by one's mother. I know in Acts, Paul considered Timothy a Jew because his mother was Jewish. But as the bible says in Romans 2:28-29 "For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God." Irrespective of whether one's mother was Jewish, or whether one was ritually circumcised by a certified mohel or mohelet (or whether one is a female).

Well said. He is certainly well-liked, even loved, by his supporters. I hope he does win the presidency, considering the alternative and their disgraceful abuse of Christians for the past century. But I'm also cautious in that perhaps, when more is revealed, he will be liked by many more of the masses. Even many of those who currently hate him. I mean, what's not to like about thwarting communists, traitors and criminals? I guess we will see.

I found this on Google. adjective: kosher 1. (of food, or premises in which food is sold, cooked, or eaten) satisfying the requirements of Jewish law. "a kosher kitchen" (of a person) observing Jewish food laws. 2. informal genuine and legitimate. "she consulted lawyers to make sure everything was kosher"

I hope not.

It's hard to tell what is true. Are the November final votes kosher, or do they need to undergo certification to count?

If Trump won, would you consider it a kind of deadly wound that was healed? Or is it all just a Freemason show, and nothing to do with the bible?

I thought the vote wasn't certified yet.

What if he loses, though?

Do you have a new president?

Oops! Sorry!

Yes. It's a funny quirk of life, but there are few topics that generate more interest than Christmas chickens, and of course, the leader of the coop, ol' Rudolph the red-beaked chicken.

Had a very shiny comb?

Circumcision, yes. But I don't think it mattered to anyone whether the mohel was certified, just that the circumcision was done.

It's a good thing this wasn't required in the Old Testament, or Moses would have been killed. I can imagine the text in Exodus 4 - So Zipporah took a flint knife and circumcised her son, but because Zipporah was a woman and not a certified mohelet, and because there were no witnesses, the circumcision didn't count and Moses died for disobedience.

Isn't it we who are Israel, who are the true Jews and have received the true circumcision? We have been grafted into the Vine, which is Christ, our King and Shepherd who rules over us. I think some of the passage refers to future events (e.g. the resurrection of the dead, which isn't happening much, or at all), but where it talks about Christ and the King and our obedience, I think that is still being fulfilled to this day. Romans 2:28 - 29 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Deuteronomy 10:16 Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked. So the foreskin of the heart makes one stiffnecked (and hard-hearted?) Interesting that even female hearts need heart circumcision, but the physical circumcision was only for males. I don't think it is because males are more stiff-necked, though.