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The quran-bible crisis
all hearts rejoice replied to RealReligionofPeace's topic in Defense of the Gospel
. it just is bafling and perplexing as to why Mohammud has such condemnation and judgment upon Jews, he does not condemn them for breaking any of the Laws Of Moses or for anything regarding immorality he does not even accuse them of misunderstanding or perverting his message his entire contempt and violence against all Jews for all of time - eternally, is solely because they do not accept him - as if he is really upset because he is not seen as some type of a savior or someone like Jesus Christ who is to receive recognition and worship and holy reverence. i have spent years reading the Answering Islam site, it is a very information service and a blessing to opening the eyes of the people to know truth about what Islam teaches from their own original documentation. Muslims claim that the Mohammud's Quran is the final word, message and last book to mankind - yet after Mohammud and his Quran - - they have spent hundreds of years writing hundreds of thousands of eXtra additional _ added Hadith and more books and documentation materials that are added upon added prophecy, revelation and spiritual claims in order to build the religion, philosophy and completion of the faith of Islam. every Muslim today is a prophet unto themselves - the Quran is not the final completed word - the additional added Hadith and books and documentation materials that are added to complete the Qurans prophecies and revelations - - these are what Islamic world rely upon because their Quran is incomplete not having all the necessary or appropriate parts within the Quran - Muslims have spent hundreds of years writing thousands of eXtra additional _ additions Hadith - books and document of prophetic spiritual materials that are needed to be inserted and added concerning the Quran Muslims are saying - the Quran is simply not sufficient or adequate for Muslims - to serve and obey the creator. -every Muslim must add additional prophecy and added revelation upon the Quran, the Quran itself is not sufficient nor the final book. every Muslim today is a prophet unto themselves and Mohammud's Quran is not the final revelation and prophecy -
. Look at what Peter says here . . . . . 2Pe 2:5 και AND - αρχαιου THE ANCIENT - κοσμου WORLD - ουκ NOT - εφεισατο WAS SPARED - αλλ BUT - ογδοον EIGHT - νωε NOAH - δικαιοσυνης THE RIGHTEOUS - κηρυκα PREACHING - εφυλαξεν HE KEPT, - κατακλυσμον TO THE FLOODED - κοσμω WORLD - ασεβων OF UNGODLY - επαξας TO COME. MEANING = AND THE ANCIENT WORLD NOT WAS SPARED BUT EIGHT, NOAH THE RIGHTEOUS PREACHING HE KEPT, TO THE FLOODED WORLD OF UNGODLY TO COME. you believe that - Noah was simply just a preacher who mainly preached of righteousness and that he did not specifically mention the oncoming flood as a consequence of disobedience ? perhaps you are right, perhaps he never mentions this in the last 100 years while building the ark. this would be a wise decision as God had already made his judgment - thank you
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The quran-bible crisis
all hearts rejoice replied to RealReligionofPeace's topic in Defense of the Gospel
it is not the point that MUSLIMS CANNOT PRODUCE A SINGLE EXAMPLE OF WHERE THE JEWS AROUND MOHAMMUD DISOBEYED THE QURAN this is not the real point - because - the Quran was not even written and being distributed when Mohammud was alive, it was all memorized and being built in the memory of the followers of Mohammud its not the Physical literal Quran itself that Mohammud presented to the Jews but the mutual agreement that He shares with the Jews about the rejection of Jesus the son of God - and other shared basic moral laws and core principles of the laws of Moses still Mohammud makes violent war and slaughter and hatred against the Jews to endure and grow into universal hatred for all eternity and Mohammud encourages all of mankind to also hate the Jews. the Quran simply expresses conflict with the Jews because they simply do not believe that Mohammud himself is inspired by the Spirit of God and the Quran tells us nothing else whatsoever as to why the Jews are evil. the Jews did not disagree with Mohammud upon basic principles regarding Idols, Adultery, Murder, Theft, The Trinity, Sabbath, The Oneness Of God, the moral obligations of a system fairness and equity and all of the basic principles in the Quran Law - Yes, these are eventually perversions that are perverted in the Quran but these basic principles are not at all the source of the conflict that Mohammud had with the Jews - -
The quran-bible crisis
all hearts rejoice replied to RealReligionofPeace's topic in Defense of the Gospel
‘’ Mohammad claims that Islamic Torah and Gospels were already there with him at his time Mohammad claims that Islamic Torah and Gospels were there with him confirming his very exact message. ‘’ Yet we see the Muslims of his day running around frantically, in a frenzied reverence just to go about scratching and etching upon stones, bark, wood, and animal skins, just to etch and scrawl something down that was already written in the Torah and Gospels. All they had to do was go to a village or a city just a few miles away and make a copy and translate the scriptures. Yet, Islam goes through this entire process - of processing all of this information through another spiritual entity called Gee – briel “ an angel “ and Mohammud is making the claim that all of this information was already written down and with them in the very same exact land where they lived. in Torah and Gospels - as a message vindicating Islam. MOAHMMAUD HAD THE TORAH AND GOSPELS WITH HIM - and is making this claim, yet his followers go around scrawling and scratching and etching on leaves, bark, wood and sticks, and rocks and skins, something that was already supposed to be in the same area where they lived. In The Torah and Gospels. This is not prophetic revelations or spiritual messages - this has nothing WHATSOEVER to do with SPIRITUAL prophecy and revelation. To repeat stories and passages of a book that already supposedly already exists - This had not a single thing to do with prophecy., re- process all of the currently existing scriptures and past accounts of historical data through a spiritual medium in the spirit world. Surah 94: Surah 94: “ So, (O prophet,) EVEN IF YOU ARE IN DOUBT about what We have sent down to you, ASK THOSE WHO READ THE BOOK (revealed) before you. Surely, truth has come to you from your Lord, so NEVER BE AMONG THOSE who are suspicious.” Here, the Quran is commanding people to believe in the Torah and Gospels and take these books as God's word and as truth, and to not be among those - who are suspicious….. Yet, all the Muslims had to do was simply take a short journey and walk to a nearby city or ask among the passing caravans for a copy of the scriptures, yet they don’t do that…. instead they use Mohammad to contact some unknown, unseen spiritual identity - to tell them what a book says that already exists all around them - just a few miles from their doorstep. Mohammad claims to be going about reciting the Torah and Gospels and throughout his whole life, Muslims are depicted as to clinging to every single last word Mohammud is repeatedly continually demanding ! LOOK - CHECK - look CONFIRM - in the Torah and Gospels - this is my very message - my message is the same exact message that is also confirmed in the Torah and Gospels. - THIS PROCESS = DOES NOT MAKE SOMEONE A PROPHET - with revelation - he is not even claiming or demonstrating to be prophesying and foretelling and revealing something that is unknown and showing people something that is unknown and needs to be revealed, Mohammud's claim is " my very message - my message is the same exact message that is also confirmed in the Torah and Gospels. " This process, makes Mohammud nothing but a translator and a copyist - who is taking the contents from one book and translating and copying them into another language. Mohammud does not even have a ministry where he goes about his ministry, providing PROPHECY to his followers in real time. - - There is nothing prophetic about Mohammuds claims. The Quran does not preserve and represent Torah and Gospels - in fact, less than 000.001 % of the Quran addresses the subject of Jesus and his Gospel message ! If Mohammud is taking the information and data and copying and rewriting the contents of an existing accessible history book that everyone around him has access to - HOW IS THIS PROPHECY ? IN FACT THE JEWS DID NOT REJECT MOHAMMUDS CORE BASIC MESSAGE ABOUT GOD S LAWS THE JEWS DID NOT DISAGREE WITH MOHAMMUD ABOUT THE ONENESS OF GOD = THE JEWS DID NOT DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING REGARDING THE MORAL CODE OF GOD AND HIS LAWS ABOUT IDOLS AND SIN AND THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD. So - what was Mohammud’s BIG PROBLEM with the Jews ? WHAT WAS MOHAMMUD UPSET WITH THE JEWS ABOUT CONCERNING THEIR FAITH ? The Jews around Mohammud believed that God was ONE SINGLE GOD - the Jews did not worship Idols and other God’s - yet Mohammud is the very one who is worshiping and bowing down and praying to other female godesse's - DEMANDING that the three goddesses al-Lat, Al-Uzza and Manat could be revered as intermediaries between God and man. - as Mohammud is there worshiping and bowing down and praying to them. THE FACT IS THE JEWS AROUND MOHAMMUD - THEY REJECTED THE JESUS OF THE GOSPELS THAT WE HAVE TODAY - THEY REJECTED IDOL WORSHIP, THEY REJECTED MOHAMMUD WHO bowed down and worshiped and DEMANDING that the three goddesses Al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat could be revered as intermediaries between God and man. So after Mohammud had changed his mind and made his many, many corrections and modifications of his message while Mohammud is constantly jumping back and forth changing his message while also under the influence of Satan who is giving him Satanic verses. IN THE END - THE JEWS ACCEPTED EVERY SINGLE LAST COMMANDMENT THAT MOHAMMUD CONCLUDED ABOUT BASIC CRITICAL LAWS OF GOD, THE ONY PROBLEM MOHAMMUD HAD WITH THE JEWS IS THAT THEY KNEW THAT MOHAMMUD WAS A FALSE PROPHET. Mohammud mentions nothing about moral or law disagreements that he had with the Jews, yes - there are some major differences between the Torah and the Quran but this is not why Mohammud is at conflict with the Jews around him THE Jews around Mohammud - are not shown to have disagreed with Mohammuds moral code - EVERY SINGLE commandment and every single critical core and basic LAW and ORDINANCE OF GOD THAT MOHAMMUD EVENTUALLY DECIDED - the Jews obeyed and believed. BUT JUST BECAUSE THE JEWS REJECTED MOHAMMUD AS A PROPHET - WHILE HE WAS FLIP FLOPPING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN FOLLOWING SATAN AND ALLAH - AND DECIDING IN CONTRADICTIONS OVER WHAT MESSAGE WAS TRUTH AND WHAT WAS TO BE CHANGED AND RE STRUCTURED INTO THE FINAL WORD OF ALLAH. Mohammud - demands that the Jews are the worst creatures that have ever existed on the planet. MUSLIMS CANNOT PRODUCE A SINGLE EXAMPLE OF WHERE THE JEWS AROUND MOHAMMUD DISOBEYED THE QURAN - NOT A SINGLE EXAMPLE - where that the Jews around Mohammud failed to accept the laws of God or failed to believe and accept in the moral code of every single last thing in the Quran. While the Jews around Mohammud were following and obeying their Torah - Mohammud is fornicating with women and having relations with a little child and is possessed by Satan and receiving satanic verses - while he flip flops back and forth in his teaching and contradictions. THE ONLY REASON THAT MOHAMMUD CONDEMNS THE JEWS IS BECAUSE THEY CANNOT ACCEPT HIM AS A MESSENGER FROM GOD - while the Quran demands that Jews are worthy of being persecuted and the very lowest and most worse of all creatures on earth -
Does not the entire premise of Papal Infallibility demonstrate a display of circular reasoning. who or what decides exactly what teachings, doctrines and comments are truly delegated from the chair of St Peter what is it that suddenly enthrones or dethrones the Vatican Primates from this chair - from one second to the next ?
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Noah also received a message of divinization that God revealed to him that a flood would be upon the earth.
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. The Greek word - “ ἄφεσις - aphesis / af'-es-is “ means literally = To Fully Pardon - Complete Forgiveness, to fully, completely Pardon as to Absolve, Exonerate, Forgive “ fully give freedom. “ and the truth is, this Greek word - ἄφεσις - aphesis - is only used 17 total times in the entire manuscripts of the N.T. yet, we notice in the K.J.V translation the word forgive is used 69 total times and we notice in the Catholic D.R.B. translation the word forgive is used 62 total times forgive _____ 28 times, K.J.V / 26 times Catholic D.R.B. forgiven _____ 24 K.J.V times, / 25 times, Catholic D.R.B. forgave _____ 8 K.J.V times, / 4 times, Catholic D.R.B. forgiveness _____ 6 K.J.V times, / 3 times, Catholic D.R.B. forgiving _____ 2 K.J.V times, / 3 times, Catholic D.R.B. forgiveth _____ 1 K.J.V times, / 1 times, Catholic D.R.B. ---------------------------- = ____ 69 total times - K.J.V / 62 total times - Catholic D.R.B. In the Greek manuscripts - “ ἄφεσις - aphesis / af'-es-is “ is only used 17 total times, the question is why and what does this mean in context and what are the other Greek words used that the translators are using - as “ forgive “ ? Here are the 17 total times this Greek word - ἄφεσις - aphesis - is used in the manuscripts, Mat 26:28 my blood of the new testament, ….. is shed for many, for the “ ἄφεσις \ forgivness “ of sins; Mar 1:4 John preached…….. baptism of repentance for the “ ἄφεσις \ forgivness “ of sins; Mar 3:29 blaspheme the Spirit Of The Holy never has “ ἄφεσις \ forgivness “ in danger of eternal damnation: Luk 1:77 Jesus gives………. knowledge of salvation ……… by the “ ἄφεσις \ forgivness “ of their sins; Luk 3:3 { John the Baptist } ……… preaching the baptism of repentance for the “ ἄφεσις \ forgivness “ of sins; Luk 4:18 to preach “ ἄφεσις \ forgivness “ to the captives - to set at “ ἄφεσις \ forgivness “ the broken Luk 24:47 ……. repentance and “ ἄφεσις \ forgivness “ of sins should be preached in his name Act 2:38 Repent, and be baptized ……in the name of Jesus Christ for the “ ἄφεσις \ forgivness “ of sins; Act 5:31 Jesus . …… Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and “ ἄφεσις \ forgivness “ of sins. Act 10:43 whosoever believeth in him shall receive “ ἄφεσις \ forgivness “ of sins. Act 13:38 { Jesus } ……. this man is preached unto you the “ ἄφεσις \ forgivness “ of sins: Act 26:18 that they may receive “ ἄφεσις \ forgivness “ of sins; and inheritance ….. sanctified by faith that is in me. Eph 1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the “ ἄφεσις \ forgivness “ of sins Col 1:14 { in Jesus } we have redemption through his blood, even the “ ἄφεσις \ forgivness “ of sins. Heb 9:22 and without shedding of blood is no “ ἄφεσις \ forgivness “ of sins; Heb 10:18 Now where “ ἄφεσις \ forgivness “ of sins; of these is, there is no more offering for sin. The answer is - in fact, there is never again any other mentioning whatsoever a mention nor a usage of this Greek word in the New Testament manuscripts that are - applying the Forgiveness, Pardon - as to fully and completely Pardon as to Absolve, Exonerate, Forgive…… outside of these verses using the Greek word “ ἄφεσις \ forgivness “ 17 total times And all of these passages are ONLY - ONLY centered around Gods shed blood and the work of God through repentance and the repentant sinner existing in the state and status of a sinner whom is receiving salvation by faith in His word . This Greek word never, ever - never APPLIES nor APPEARS in the manuscripts - under any other circumstances in all of the approXimately other 50 verses where we see the word “ forgiveness “ in the translations After we repent and receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit we receive FORGIVENESS, PARDONING, ABSOLVING, EXONERATION of sins. God whom has already fully forgiven and pardoned, PARDONING our sins, this pardon and forgiveness was already done 2000 years ago on the cross by shedding his blood. It is ONLY in this context that this Greek word is used and ALSO in the applied anointing to the context of the broken and repentant sinner believing as a sinner in repentance and receiving the “ ἄφεσις \ forgivness “ of sins that was already given and completed 2000 years ago on the cross by the blood sacrifice…… That this pardon and forgiveness was already done 2000 years ago by shedding of blood on the cross, once we receive this knowledge and repent we are ….. sanctified by faith in his offering of salvation and receive “ ἄφεσις \ forgivness “ of sins. Then another Greek word is used that is the Greek word Χαρίζομαι - charizomai - meaning = To grant as a favor, that is, gratuitously, in kindness, pardon or rescue: - deliver, (frankly) forgive, (freely) give, grant Χαρίζομαι - This Greek word “ forgive “ in the Bible - is never ever applied to God forgiving mankind but is only applied to mankind receiving from other mankind - ------ forgiveness as - mankind to mankind - not from God ἀφίημι - aphiēmi - meaning = To send forth - away , lay aside, leave, let alone, be gone, put away. yield up sin God has already Pardoned and Forgiven, Absolved, Exonerated “ ἄφεσις - aphesis \ forgivness “ of sins. AFTER WE REPENT - WE ASK THAT GOD WILL “ ἀφίημι - aphiēmi “ our sins - meaning = To send away our sins to give us strength to - lay aside, leave, let alone and be gone and put away and yield up our sin that he has already forgiven / pardoned 2000 years ago that we receive by repenting, baptism and receiving the gift of the Spirit of the Holy by the Anointing Jesus This “ ἄφεσις \ - aphesis forgivness “ Forgiveness and Pardon was already done Completed one time 2000 years ago by shedding of blood on the cross Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. :18 Now where “ ἄφεσις \ forgivness “ of sins; of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
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. heb 1: 1 - 3 explains – who is “ the angel of the Lord “ :1 many ways, also various ways, long ago the god spoke to their fathers :2 in their prophets unto these last of days, of these, he spoke to them in his son upon whom is given heir, of whom also this is forever done :3 who being the emanation / radiating of his glory, and the express image of his confidence
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But Noah Found Grace In The Eyes Of The Lord.
all hearts rejoice replied to Walter and Deborah's topic in General Discussion
. yes, the opposing culture seeks to remove the incentive for a family to be headed by a Godly man while also hiding and ignoring the damaging consequence of a family not headed by a Godly man -
. Χριστιανός - Christianos of the anointed 1Pe 1:10 “ speaks - CONCERNING THE SPIRIT OF THE " ANOINTING " INSIDE THE OLD TESTAMENT PROPHETS “ :10 The prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: :11 Searching what, or what manner of time- “ THE SPIRIT OF THE ANOINTING / CHRIST “ WHICH WAS IN THEM - did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of THE ANOINTING / CHRIST : We see clearly that the very same - Self - Same Spirit of Jesus himself, was the very same Spirit that had been previously been sent to earth - as “ THE SPIRIT OF THE ANOINTING “ - – in / inside the prophets in the Old testament.. Jesus ------- he is the ANOINTING of the Spirit, Holy -- BEING THE LITERAL ANOINTING OF GOD - the installation, placement, application, positioning, stationing, appointment, applying of the Spirit, Holy Of The God in our lives. To apply to be the application His Spirit is the Spirit Of The Holy---applied --- in the manifestation, form of what is being applied, ANOINTED - placed, applied, positioned, stationed, appointed, working, rubbing, moving anointing - the idea of contact; to smear or rub with oil, to handle); to furnish what is needed; , to apply and to use. This is the role of Jesus the Anointing / Christ - that Gods Spirit, Holy has applied HIS SACRIFICE sanctified for our salvation and also for communication to Him, the eternal spirit, Jesus is the eternal God because his very spirit was the Spirit, Holy -
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But Noah Found Grace In The Eyes Of The Lord.
all hearts rejoice replied to Walter and Deborah's topic in General Discussion
. Amen , praise God Also, I noticed here in Eze 14: 19 - 20 - it says that the sons and rest of the family of Noah were not saved simply because they were the family of Noah. But because they choose to serve God themselves ( by their own choice and lifestyle that they lived unto God ) - and they choose righteousness - - Eze 14:19 Or if I send a pestilence into that land, and pour out my fury upon it in blood, to cut off from it man and beast: 20 Though Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, they shall deliver neither son nor daughter; they shall but deliver their own souls by their righteousness.