Franky67

Many denominations teach that Jesus was speaking only to the 12 and the 70, and that the things they did, no one else can do. When the last Apostles who were with Jesus died, then the signs and wonders ceased, and were no longer needed, because now they could read about it and get saved. Jesus demonstrated exactly the nature of the Father, and what the Kingdom of Heaven is like.

If what you're watching is pleasing to the Holy Spirit, then it is the right thing to watch. I what you're watching pleases the flesh in you, then shut it off. Violence is not pleasing to God. Read Isaiah 11, which describes the thousand years on earth when Jesus is supreme ruler. No hurt is allowed on God's Holy Mountain. No hurt in man, nor beast. They put violence and immorality in movies to sell tickets, because the world loves it. We, christians are not of this world.

We will rule and reign with Christ on earth for a thousand years, while satan is in solitary confinement. Isaiah 20:4 This beautiful time on earth without evil is described is Isaiah 11. and After the thousand years ?, read Revelation chapter 21. I think you meant Rev 20:4 Franky. The topic is about the idea of going to heaven being a misnomer. Rev 21 proves my point. TO where does the bride return? The New Earth, despite the fact that a new heaven is also brought to pass.We will have bodies in the eternal state, and bodies are the province of earth, while spirits are the province of heaven. We go to heaven when we die in this body, but we don't STAY there, we come back HERE. As for the millennium being exactly 1000 years...the early church did not believe that from all indication. Cerinthus, a Gnostic whom John opposed, was the first to interject a literal millennium into Christian thought and his writings and teachings were considered heresy. But where is Jesus now, with the holes in His feet and hands, and side, he is at the right hand of God, so I don't know about everything in heaven being spirit. The Bible says 1000 years, no reason to make anything else out of it. Most Christians today don't forsee a thousand years rule on earth by Jesus.

So, there is the question; If HE intended this earth to be perfect and without evil, and it went astray, what is to keep the new earth from going astray?

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We will rule and reign with Christ on earth for a thousand years, while satan is in solitary confinement. Isaiah 20:4 This beautiful time on earth without evil is described is Isaiah 11. and After the thousand years ?, read Revelation chapter 21.

John 1:1 "in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." By the way, theJehovah Witness bible say "the Word was A God."

I understand that Paul was up against a lot of judaizers (sp) and had to set a lot of things straight, but still he was not perfect as you said. ButI guess he said that because they were better off following him than the ones that told them they had to obey the law to be saved.

All Christians CAN be led by the Spirit, but all of us are not, at all times. That's the reason there are so many denominations. Before I accepted the Lord, I would tell those who talked to me about their denominational beliefs, " one of you tells me all the gifts have ceased, another tells me they haven't, so which is right ? One says God ordained everything that happens, another says He didn't. So Just read my bible and ask God the Holy Spirit to teach me.

Wonder if this is a denominational thing ? Then also there's the scripture that says not to follow men, 1 Cor. 1 12,13 "I am of Paul, I am of Apollos,.....etc"

That's what I thought, but Paul says to follow him in three different places. 1 Cor 4:16,17 11:2 and Phil.3:17

Does this teaching strike anybody else as wrong ?

The only sacrifice that was abrogated was the sin offering. That is the only offering not mentioned in Ezekiel 40-48. They will serve the same purpose they originally served. The Bible is replete with prophecies pertaining to the resumption of the sacrifces and the annual festivals during the millennial reign of Christ. It shows you have a rather one-dimensional understanding of the sacrificial system. In the millennial reign of Christ, the sacrifices are not expiatory, but operate on a more civil level, as they did originally. One of the things people fail to grasp is that the sacrifices were not the "Old Testament" means of salvation. No one was saved by them in the first place, so they do not in any way compete with the sacrifice of Christ. The burnt offering for example was simply an offering of worship. It was not sin atonement or anything like that. I agree on these points. For some reason the sacrifces are seen through the modern eye as appeasing an "angry god," but that is not the case. In many ways, the sacrifices pointed to the work of Yehoshua, and I believe to some extent will point back at what he has done. But they never saved nor will they ever save. And, it seems clear, will continue in the millenial reign. Peace. Ken Try reading Isaiah 11:6-10 and Isaiah 65:25 God has said there will no longer be any hurt on His Holy Mountain. So if it "seems clear" to you that animal sacrifice will continue in the thousand year reign of Christ, show us the proof.

Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. What does this mean? The difference between the Old and the New Covenants Hebrews 8:18, and Jeremiah 31 says God found fault with THEM, not with His covenant, so in verses 8-13, the writer of Hebrews explains the new covenant (the word " new " here refers to new in quality, rather than brand new, never existed before) A new covenant where God says He will write His laws on their hearts, and put them in their minds. Jesus says He would send the comforter to be IN us , Paul wrote that "we have the Mind of Christ" And Romans 15 says Jesus came to confirm the promises made to the fathers, ie, the covenant. What makes it better? we now have the Holy Spirit resident in us , we have the Mind of Christ. We are told to renew our minds, which means to bring our physical minds into one accord with the Mind of Christ. What else makes the new better than the old? this covenant was confirmed by the very blood of God. Jesus took upon Himself all the curses of the law, He said "I came not to destroy, but to fulfill the law." In Christ, we are heirs to all the blessings of the everlasting covenant, and in Christ, our iniquities are redeemed, our sins are forgiven, the debt is paid in full. These are for all who are in Christ, but many do not know what they have inherited, and therefore cannot receive the blessings. Many have said that if all these blessings were given by God through Christ, then all Christians would be healed, and all would be blessed in all these other ways, but they say they don't see it, so it must not be a true doctrine. Do we prove the word of God, by the evidence of our senses? 2 Cor 1:20 "All the promises of God are, in Him, yes and amen" Col 2:9 "In Him all god's fulness dwells." Malachi 3:1 "..........the messenger of the covenant......"

A Question by OneLight I believe we all have the same authority over the devil, we are all kings and priests, seated with Jesus at the right hand of the Father. As to various rolls in the church structure, absolutely there are various rolls and responsibilities, and God equips each one with the gifts of the spirit as He sees the need. And Yes I read Erich's post again, and again, the fact that the 12 are foundations in the Body of Christ has nothing to do with what we are discussing. Also I see no merit in the link to the psychology lesson. You can call it pride or whatever, but I have inherited exactly the very same power over the devil as Paul had, and you have too, but you can't use it if you don't believe you have it. I direct you to Ephesians 1:18-23 , please read it again. Last Post