Marilyn777

Does God Still Speak? Divine Revelation or Active Imagination The Bible is full of stories about God speaking to his people; stories about Moses, Noah, Paul, Job and the prophets to name a few. God spoke and there was no question about the source; no doubt that God was real and that they had come into his presence. What an awesome experience. Ever wish you were there? Through-out history many people have justified their actions by claiming

Humility Being humble is an act of worship. It is a falling before God and recognizing we are not"all that". False humility is accusing God of not being a good gift giver. We call Him a slob at giving good gifts and that is not worship at all. Maybe not directly but we've done it. There has been a lot of false humility around I've done some of it. Someone looks at me and says "You write great stuff" and I start to put it down or say something that turns it away. I don't know how to deal with it and I know I'm supposed to be humble and yet I feel that somewhere they are right and yet it conflicts with my supposing to be humble so I argue with myself and then I get it wrong anyway. The problem is not whether we are good at what we do or not. The problem is that we mistake gifts with the Giver and humility with acceptance of our purpose. Being Humble is not saying that we do a bad job with what is given us to do. Being humble is remembering who the Giver is and where the gift came from. Being humble is receiving the praise of others with grace and then passing the praise we receive to the One who gave us the gift. Being humble is remembering "I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" while also remembering that our works are "as filthy rags" on their own. See what I mean? It's who you are connected to that counts. It's not that we are supposed to be bad at what we do or that we are to be good at it and then put it down. We should be the best at what we do and then lift Him up for it. We are supposed to be good at it. Not arrogant, and not full of ourselves, not conceited, not big headed. We are to do our best and then in grace and love remind folks who the giver of such a great gift is. God is it. He is the center, the giver, the supplier. Humility is also using our best to help others, not for self promotion but for other-encouragement. IF we are gonna bless others in God's name then we had better be doing it with excellence. God deserves our best. If we are a doctor or nurse, I don't want an arrogant fool in my face but I do want someone who thinks, lives, breathes medicine and cares deeply about doing their best and doing it right. How much more for the souls of those around us that depend on us to do our best for eternities sake, for God's sake. This is worship. Worship from the heart Worship from the depths of God's gifts placed in our hands Worship that goes beyond the boundaries. True worship. Be humble before our God today but be grateful for what He has placed in our hands. What He calls good we should never call bad. Be teachable See Him as Lord of all Use what He gave us for others Do not hold onto it as if it is all ours These are the true essence of humility.

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Then why did you even post here? I know most of you don't believe that Samhaine(sic) is as evil as some of us think but it is. Those that end up in hell don't believe they are going, some don't even believe that it exists. The fact they don't believe does not change the fact that it does exist. This is not to try to take away fun, just save you some pain. In Love Larry T. Hey Lar I don't think that was spoken in love, do you? Sounded more like a rebuke to me, maybe you should apologise that wasn't very Christian of you. I think she had every right to post here and express her opinion, isn't that what its all about? Maybe next time before you hit the post this message button ask Jesus if that is What He Would Do!! Just a suggestion - in love. If you cannot stand the fire don't come in the kitchen. LT Hey LT No fire here in my kitchen! Besides I've been in some pretty hot kitchens in the past, and I didn't get out of them without God's help! And I don't tend to burn things. But I try 'real' hard to think before I speak. Because once the words are out there you can't take em back. Ya see what I'm saying? 'In Love' Marilyn

Oh my gosh people don't do that here do they? Its a 'Christian' board!

Then why did you even post here? I know most of you don't believe that Samhaine(sic) is as evil as some of us think but it is. Those that end up in hell don't believe they are going, some don't even believe that it exists. The fact they don't believe does not change the fact that it does exist. This is not to try to take away fun, just save you some pain. In Love Larry T. Hey Lar I don't think that was spoken in love, do you? Sounded more like a rebuke to me, maybe you should apologise that wasn't very Christian of you. I think she had every right to post here and express her opinion, isn't that what its all about? Maybe next time before you hit the post this message button ask Jesus if that is What He Would Do!! Just a suggestion - in love.

:suspect: we shall see!

I haven't seen one moderator or chat admin or George who let their responsibilties go to their head...and I have been here over a year and moderating since February. If anything, they are the most humble and sincere saints of God that I have come across anywhere. I am blessed to be a small part of this ministry and thank God daily. Respectfully I disagree but I do understand your hurt and confusion. May I suggest the following. Lift your heart and eyes to the Lord Jesus Christ and search for the TRUTH through HIM in these matters and all matters for that sake. Read the book of Proverbs and allow the Lord to direct your path and give you understanding. I would quote much of it for you but it is better for the Lord to draw you where He wants. We cannot and will not disclose those things that you refer to. All I can suggest as with everything in life we have to decide who and what we will believe. If you have an issue with a specific "behind the scenes" person, PM them. Just remember...you may not know the entire story and may never until the day Jesus Christ returns for His Bride. Be Blessed, Wayne I fully expected you to respond this way. As they say there are two sides to every story and yours is just one. And you have every right to defend your friends, as I do with mine. So lets just leave it at that. For me a lot of trust that I had for certain people here has now disappeared. But I still have a lot of friends here whom I enjoy talking to so from now on I'm just going to watch what I say and cover myself in prayer. We all make decisions that we have to live with. God Bless Marilyn

Oh please! You don't have a clue as to why these people that were part of the foundation of this board left. Things are happening here behind the scenes that have caused alot of pain and grief for these people. So before you criticize people so freely maybe you should not say anything unless you have all the facts! Good grief I couldn't believe your flippant attitude towards some of the best people that you will ever meet. I really believe we should think it through before we post something because you never know when you are hurting someone!

Unfortunately not everyone on this board is practicing compassion and forgiveness. Some are 'choosing' to walk and act in self instead of in the Lord. And they will answer for that one day. I hope you are listening to that still small voice called your conscience and you will make amens before it goes too far. I think you know who you are. Search your hearts and do the right thing. Alot of people have been hurt for no reason and I really think you need to ask yourselves right now--- "What Would Jesus Do?" Marilyn777 why post this here? if you have something to say to the individual why don't you PM them? This is a forgiveness thread. does your post promote forgiveness? or does it seek to impart blame? All Praise The Ancient Of Days Adstar with all due respect there are alot of of people behind the scenes here that unfortunately have let their responsibilities go to their heads. Some have already left because of the backbiting, gossip and harsh words including the one who started this topic. I think this thread is more then appropriate for posting this. There are some that are posting in this topic that are wolves in sheep's clothing they say one thing publicly and do the opposite behind the scenes. There needs to be some serious soul searching done here before any more leave. People have been hurt needlessly and in some cases beyond repair. Anytime someone is hurt by a brother or sister in Christ is someone that does not represent Christ. There needs to be some atoning done, in some cases its too late but maybe not for anyone. I don't see how you can stand before God with a clean heart when your words were spoken in anger. And it wasn't righteous anger. I am trying to be fair here, but some of you and you know who you are, make it very difficult to see this as a Spirit filled Christian board when some of our dear saints have been asked to leave or have left because of other's unchristian behaviour. I just recommended this board to a friend of mine, but after thinking it through I'm going to have to tell her that maybe this is not the right place for her after-all. If the 'behind the scenes' people cannot admit when they have made a mistake and seek to make things right with their brothers and sisters then how can they be trusted at all. What kind of witness is that to our young brothers and sisters in Lord, and especially those that are seeking the Lord. You can post and council all you like but if you don't walk the talk then maybe you should step down, do some soul searching and some fence mending. Apologies and forgiveness are two of the hardest things a Christian can ask for or receive, but it is a necessary part of the constant pruning the Holy Spirit does as He refines us. And it sure would be an incredible witness to the rest of us here to see that humbleness come forth. Of course these are just my opinions, so do with them as you will. In Jesus Name Marilyn

Unfortunately not everyone on this board is practicing compassion and forgiveness. Some are 'choosing' to walk and act in self instead of in the Lord. And they will answer for that one day. I hope you are listening to that still small voice called your conscience and you will make amens before it goes too far. I think you know who you are. Search your hearts and do the right thing. Alot of people have been hurt for no reason and I really think you need to ask yourselves right now--- "What Would Jesus Do?"

Yod I think thats the most emotion I've ever seen you express, I was beginning to worry about you! :oww: Its usually just one or two word answers. You actually had a paragraph.

Did early Christians dance in church? Was dance ever a part of worship in the apostolic church or throughout the first few centuries? As far as I can tell from my research, dance was not part of worship in the early church. Jewish culture featured dancing at weddings and the Feast of Tabernacles, and of course there are numerous references to David dancing in the Old Testament, but such dancing was spontaneous and celebratory, not liturgical. As a result, early Christians from Jewish backgrounds probably lacked a tradition of dance during formal worship. Dancing only appears in the New Testament in two contexts: Herod's banquet (Mark 6:21-22, with disastrous results for John the Baptist) and the celebration of the Prodigal Son's return (Luke 15:22-27). By contrast, dance played a prominent role in many pagan cults, such as the orgiastic cult of Dionysius. Because early Christians in no way wished to be associated with such rites, they most likely avoided dancing in church, though their intense, sometimes ecstatic worship (see Acts 2:43, 1 Cor. 14:26 for examples) may well have included motions of some sort. Christians avoided social dancing, too, as it was usually associated with drinking and sexual immorality in Roman culture. The church fathers paint a generally bleak view of dancing but do not wholly preclude sacred dance. Clement of Alexandria, writing circa 195, interpreted Old Testament Scriptures in such a way as to excise reference to literal dancing: " 'Praise with the timbrel and the dance.' This refers to the church meditating on the resurrection of the dead in the resounding skin." Commodius, writing around 240, associated dancing with worldliness: "You are rejecting the law when you wish to please the world. You dance in your houses. Instead of psalms, you sing love songs." Cyprian, though, writing about a decade later, makes some distinction between godly and ungodly dance: "The fact that David led the dances in the presence of God is no sanction for faithful Christians to occupy seats in the public theater. For David did not twist his limbs about in obscene movements. He did not depict in his dancing the story of Grecian lust."

It will be conceded that every man's first duty is to God; it will also be conceded, and with strong emphasis, that a Christian's first duty is to God. It then follows, as a matter of course, that it is his duty to carry his Christian code of morals to the polls and vote them. Whenever he shall do that, he will not find himself voting for an unclean man, a dishonest man. Whenever a Christian votes, he votes against God or for Him, and he knows this quite well. God is an issue in every election; He is a candidate in the person of every clean nominee on every ticket; His purity and His approval are there, to be voted for or voted against, and no fealty to party can absolve His servant from his higher and more exacting fealty to Him; He takes precedence of party, duty to Him is above every claim of party. If Christians should vote their duty to God at the polls, they would carry every election, and do it with ease. They would elect every clean candidate in the United States, and defeat every soiled one. Their prodigious power would be quickly realized and recognized, and afterward there would be no unclean candidates upon any ticket, and graft would cease. No church organization can be found in the country that would elect men of foul character to be its shepherd, its treasurer, and superintendent of its Sunday-school. It would be revolted at the idea; it would consider such an election an insult to God. Yet every Christian congregation in the country elects foul men to public office, while quite aware that this also is an open and deliberate insult to God, who can not approve and does not approve the placing of the liberties and the well-being of His children in the hands of infamous men. It is the Christian congregations that are responsible for the filling of our public offices with criminals, for the reason that they could prevent it if they chose to do it. They could prevent it without organizing a league, without framing a platform, without making any speeches or passing any resolutions -- in a word, without concert of any kind. They could accomplish it by each individual resolving to vote for God at the polls -- that is to say, vote for the candidate whom God would approve. Can a man imagine such a thing as God being a Republican or a Democrat, and voting for a criminal or a blackguard merely because party loyalty required it? Then can we imagine that a man can improve upon God's attitude in this matter, and by help of professional politicians invent a better policy? God has no politics but cleanliness and honesty, and it is good enough for men. . If the Christians of America could be persuaded to vote God and a clean ticket, it would bring about a moral revolution that would be incalculably beneficent. It would save the country -- a country whose Christians have betrayed it and are destroying it.

'Saint Bill Clinton' ignites religious rage ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- While Americans have a wide range of views regarding former President Bill Clinton, a Kentucky artist's depiction of the former commander in chief as God himself or a Catholic-style saint is raising those opinions to passionate levels across the nation. The portrait, titled "Saint Clinton," is the creation of Scott Ritcher, a 34-year-old graphic designer who is now marketing T-shirts, posters, magnets, coffee cups, coasters and even lunchboxes with the picture reminiscent of the "Sacred Heart of Jesus" images. "It was one of those creative moments where you're just like, 'Oh, wouldn't this be funny,'" Ritcher told WLKY-TV in Louisville. "It's intended to amuse and entertain people. It's not intended to offend anybody." But offend people it has, as a local Catholic school has already banned the artwork from its campus. With news of the artwork spreading online, comments are finding their way onto Internet messageboards. Among them: "This is the most sickening and revolting thing I've ever seen. It is the basest form of sacrilege