Joshua-777

Is God's perfect will always 100% accomplished on this earth?

I was at this event, The first night Randy Clark invited the Holy Spirit and there were about 15 people manifesting demons all around. About 15 people got delivered and around 200 raised their hands claiming they were healed after he gave words of knowledge, and another 100 claimed to be healed after prayer ministry. The second and third night even more people raised their hands testifying they were healed. At the end of the event well over a thousand people claimed to have been healed. Randy Clark encouraging people to submit what happened in a booth in the lobby and said he was collecting documentation. I went up to the front and watch a little boys fingers grow back a quarter inch. The prayer team was measuring it. I prayed over a lady with fractured toes and she gave me her crutch. How would you go about doing this, or accessing these documents?

I was blessed to be at this conference. God is so good!

Considering that Jesus modeled our example, every time He healed the sick, we can learn something from, how the apostles healed the sick, and how the book of James gives instruction to the elders, it's clear that there is more contained in the bible about how to pray for the sick than how to plant a Church, how to conduct a Church service, and how to properly baptize. "Believers will lay hands on the sick and they will recover" The apostle Paul did clearly tell the Corinthian Church to seek after Spiritual gifts because they edify the Church at the end of 1 Cor 12 and beginning of 1 Cor 14. The gift of healing and miracles is within those gifts. The gifts also are to manifest the nature of God, the Kingdom of God, and show the world the "powers of the age to come (Hebrews 6:5)." And that authority is given to believers, not just apostles. Matthew 10:7 And as you go, preach, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’ 8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out demons. Freely you have received, freely give. John 14:12 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father. 1 Corinthians 12:10 to another the working of miracles, Also, on a side note, Holy Spirit demonstrated his power over time and space as Phillip teleported. But Jesus commanded the 70 to heal the sick, Steven healed the sick and worked miracles, Philip the Evangelist healed the sick, people were instructed to get healed through the elders of the Church in James. Paul made very clear in 1st Corinthians that those with gifts of healing are different from apostles. 1 Corinthians 12:28 And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues. Then Paul encourages the Church 1 Corinthians 12:31 But earnestly desire the best gifts 14:1 Pursue love, and desire spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy. But not only are you ignoring Paul's instruction, you are ignoring Jesus' instruction about the great commission. Jesus said these signs would follow, not apostles, but those who believe, Mark 16:15 And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. 17 And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; 18 they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.” John 14:12 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father. 2 Corinthians 12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure by the abundance of the revelations, a thorn in the flesh was given to me, a messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I be exalted above measure. I think Paul was continuing on his boasting in suffering from the chapter prior, which is literally the paragraph up from his thorn. Context is important. 2 Corinthians 11:22 Are they Hebrews? So am I. Are they Israelites? So am I. Are they the seed of Abraham? So am I. 23 Are they ministers of Christ?—I speak as a fool—I am more: in labors more abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequently, in deaths often. 24 From the Jews five times I received forty stripes minus one. 25 Three times I was beaten with rods; once I was stoned; three times I was shipwrecked; a night and a day I have been in the deep; 26 in journeys often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils of my own countrymen, in perils of the Gentiles, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren; 27 in weariness and toil, in sleeplessness often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness— 28 besides the other things, what comes upon me daily: my deep concern for all the churches. 29 Who is weak, and I am not weak? Who is made to stumble, and I do not burn with indignation? 30 If I must boast, I will boast in the things which concern my infirmity. 31 The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who is blessed forever, knows that I am not lying. 32 In Damascus the governor, under Aretas the king, was guarding the city of the Damascenes with a garrison, desiring to arrest me; 33 but I was let down in a basket through a window in the wall, and escaped from his hands. I know there are people praying and commanding flooding to go and famines to go. May be the answer is similar to "why doesn't everyone get healed?" Actually there is great work going on to document. A team from Harvard went down to Mozambique and documented in a medical journal the effects of laying on of hands through the blind and deaf. Randy Clark has been collecting documentation of healing so that prayer can be administered in hospitals instead of Reiki and therapeutic touch. Food being multiplied is happening in area's of extreme famine and flooding. Jesus is the same Jesus today as He was then. He didn't change because He finished His book. He now shows who He is through His children. With the 100 raised from the dead, now they lost count because so many Churches are planted and little bush pastors rising the dead all over. They are well over a thousand now. It's pretty crazy how the Churches out there will fast and pray for days until they see breakthrough. You should really investigate the fruit before you label people a heretic. She is someone who literally risks her life to bring the Gospel to the unreached, is completely in love with Jesus and also she also has a PHD in systematic theology. The core of what she teaches is intimacy with God and loving the person in front of you.

Well said.

Signs and wonders, yes. That's what the bible often refers to them as. Acts 4:30 by stretching out Your hand to heal, and that signs and wonders may be done through the name of Your holy Servant Jesus.”

No, I'm saying the tactic of mocking is something I see alot of atheists do. For example, I've had many times where they will hear testimonies of people getting healed through witnessing and then cuss me out and say "Why don't you empty out the hospitals." It's sad when believers do this. These kind of statements mock faith in God and those who believe God actually intervenes through the prayers of believers. This is also placing the blame on them for disasters that have happened and are going on.

For me, I had nightmares for years that were demonic. I was praying to get rid of them and couldn't get free. One night I was praying and heard, forgive your step-dad in my heart. Now, that rose up some anger because of the abuse I grew up under. He I grew up under verbal and sometimes physical abuse while my sister was sexually abused. I told God there is no way I'm going to forgive him, then He spoke really clear, "you were just as guilty". At that moment I surrendered it to the Lord and forgave him. The next day I started to have another one of those dreams but in the dream I rebuked it in Jesus name and it left for good. That was the hardest thing I've had to forgive, but there is so much freedom when we do.

The disciples were to teach their disciples to observe all things Jesus commanded them. Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen. Actually, I can post verse after verse contradicting this statement. In order to hold tight to this, you would have to contradict and make obsolete many things Jesus promised and taught. There is no passage in scripture that even hints to this. It appears that you hold to cessationism, that the gifts have ceased, but there is no where in scripture to back up this claim. It was a demon to buffet him. Meaning, come agaisnt him. The chapter prior he went through a long list of the things he has suffered, and starts the letter out with the premise of God taking him to the end of Himself. Instead of rejoicing in the testimony of the Lord you are bashing them for what God hasn't done through them. Atheists love to do this too.

Except for the fact they asked why and Jesus answered them with a similar answer to what he had been teaching them when He withered the tree, and also many other times. Unbelief is a major reason for not seeing breakthrough. That is clear from scripture. Also the fact that story is repeated in each Gospel with the same lesson, may be we should take it in greater concideration. Mark 6:5 Now He could do no mighty work there, except that He laid His hands on a few sick people and healed them. 6 And He marveled because of their unbelief. Then He went about the villages in a circuit, teaching. I agree we are to know His will and when we pray according to His will, it happens. The fact that we are to pray for His Kingdom to come and His will to be done on earth as it is in heaven shows that His will is not always done on earth. His manifests His will through often the surrender of our will. His will is His Kingdom to come, and when His Kingdom comes, the darkness is thrown down, sickness is healed, and the broken get restored. Healing the sick, casting out demons, and raising the dead is a demonstration of the Kingdom of God, which is at hand and also is to come in it's fullness. Matthew 6:9 In this manner, therefore, pray: Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name. 10Your kingdom come. Your will be done On earth as it is in heaven. Matthew 10:7 And as you go, preach, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’ 8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out demons. Freely you have received, freely give. Matthew 12:28 But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you. 1 Corinthians 4:20 For the kingdom of God is not in word but in power. Actually changing weather is an example for the fervent prayer of a righteous man, and also Jesus said we would do the same works He did. Check out the other tornado video I posted. James 5:16 Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much. 17 Elijah was a man with a nature like ours, and he prayed earnestly that it would not rain; and it did not rain on the land for three years and six months. 18 And he prayed again, and the heaven gave rain, and the earth produced its fruit. John 14:12 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father. 13 And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If you ask anything in My name, I will do it. With sickness, there is no sickness in the fullness of His Kingdom, so we are to come against it here. It came in through sin and sickness kills steals and destroys, Jesus came that we may have life more abundantly. Sickness and disease is a distortion of God's creation and an enemy against humanity. John 10:10 The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly. Acts 10:8 how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, who went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him You say that God never promises to heal, but He does. Psalm 103:Bless the Lord, O my soul, And forget not all His benefits: 3 Who forgives all your iniquities, Who heals all your diseases, Isaiah 53:5 But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes we are healed. James 5:15 And the prayer of faith will save the sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven Now one of the issues is trusting God when you don't see breakthrough. That is something, regardless of the results we are to trust and believe that God is good. I don't believe God sends the storm but sometimes He will use the storm to take us to the end of ourselves. A perfect example is Paul's thorn in his flesh. The issue wasn't just some sickness that went away but a plague of tribulation, persecution, may be even sickness but that was for a reason that he may come into complete reliance on the power of God. 2 Corinthians 1:8 For we do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, of our trouble which came to us in Asia: that we were burdened beyond measure, above strength, so that we despaired even of life. 9 Yes, we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves but in God who raises the dead, 2 Corinthians 12:9 And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in needs, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ’s sake. For when I am weak, then I am strong.

"people who don't get healed didn't ask for healing" Never said that. So we shouldn't get our doctrine off of what Jesus taught? Your saying that because of your experience, that passage isn't relevant today. Shouldn't we judge our experiences with the bible? If the Red Letters contradicts our doctrine, may be it's our doctrine that needs to change. This passage shows a principle that fits with many things Jesus said and taught on faith. That is also the only account where prayer didn't see breakthrough in the Gospels. The problem is Jesus made some radical claims and it's a challenge to believe Him. He again, and again said that we can ask anything in His name and receive it. John 14:12 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father. 13 And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If you ask anything in My name, I will do it. John 15:7 If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you. Luke 11:9 “So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 10 For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. Mark 11:24 Therefore I say to you, whatever things you ask when you pray, believe that you receive them, and you will have them. And so you don't think I'm saying name it claim it. 1 John 3:22 And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight. 23 And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment James 4:2 You lust and do not have. You murder and covet and cannot obtain. You fight and war. Yet you do not have because you do not ask. 3 You ask and do not receive, because you ask amiss, that you may spend it on your pleasures. I've seen both sides of this, I know many who were healed without anyone praying over them and many more who were healed through the laying on of hands. I've also seen many who had great faith go down with sickness, but I've seen many more who were healed. I've prayed for many that didn't get healed, and many who have. There are also those cases that those who have been getting prayer for 40 years all of a sudden see breakthrough. This is something I wrestle with daily and those red letters are what I put my faith in.

One thing interesting, the disciples were given all power to heal the sick and over all the works of the enemy. They came across a boy who was epileptic and could not cast it out. Jesus rebuked their unbelief and healed the boy. Matthew 17:14 And when they had come to the multitude, a man came to Him, kneeling down to Him and saying, 15 “Lord, have mercy on my son, for he is an epileptic and suffers severely; for he often falls into the fire and often into the water. 16 So I brought him to Your disciples, but they could not cure him.” 17 Then Jesus answered and said, “O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? How long shall I bear with you? Bring him here to Me.” 18 And Jesus rebuked the demon, and it came out of him; and the child was cured from that very hour. 19 Then the disciples came to Jesus privately and said, “Why could we not cast it out?” 20 So Jesus said to them, “Because of your unbelief; for assuredly, I say to you, if you have faith as a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move; and nothing will be impossible for you. 21 However, this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting.” With this passage, was it God's will to heal the boy? Yes, could the disciples do it? no. Why? Unbelief. Then Jesus makes clear that faith speaks to the mountain and the mountain moves and says "nothing will be impossible for you." As far as the practice of praying for the sick, I found that the ones who usually see breakthrough with healing are the ones praying for healing. I also know that many people I've seen healed, if no one prayed for them, they wouldn't be healed. God reveals His will through His children. It's always God's power to heal and healing the sick is a practice in the bible.

Jeff had nothing to do with it, It was Jeff who prayed, he had everything to do with choosing to pray for the protection of his house, but not for his neighbors. At least, that is how I see it! I am not saying he did anything wrong, I just think he could have been considerate that way. Of course, it is possible that he knew that it was God's will not to spare his neighbors homes, but you and I do not know that, all we can do is observe from a distance. I don't think he expected it to touch down again.

This happened on a mission trip in Africa with one of my friends. A tornado was headed toward a village and the Church started praying and it lifted.

Jeff had nothing to do with it, It was Jeff who prayed, he had everything to do with choosing to pray for the protection of his house, but not for his neighbors. At least, that is how I see it! I am not saying he did anything wrong, I just think he could have been considerate that way. Of course, it is possible that he knew that it was God's will not to spare his neighbors homes, but you and I do not know that, all we can do is observe from a distance. He didn't command it to touch down again. May be you should look better into what these "faith people are doing." They are actually going into areas in the world suffering from drought, famine, floods, etc and Jesus is multiplying food and leading multitudes to knowing Him. They are also going into hostile areas risking their lives for the Gospel.

We are also to let this peace rule (govern) our hearts. Colossians 3:14 But above all these things put on love, which is the bond of perfection. 15 And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body; and be thankful. With this, we need to fix our minds on Him. That we meditate on Him and all His goodness and we trust (Put our confidence in) Him, Isaiah 26:3 You will keep him in perfect peace, Whose mind is stayed on You, Because he trusts in You. Philippians 2:8 Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things. 9 The things which you learned and received and heard and saw in me, these do, and the God of peace will be with you. Thankfulness is so important. having a thankful heart that is fixed upon Him. Philippians 4:6 Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; 7 and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. We enter His presence through thankfulness and praise. Psalm 100:4 Enter into His gates with thanksgiving, And into His courts with praise. Be thankful to Him, and bless His name.

So, this message I preached on storming the gates of hell before we went out witnessing. We ended up staying out until night time and went to an area with many bars and strip clubs and watched many people get healed, delivered, and impacted by the love of Jesus. I found out a few weeks later the place we went was nicknamed the gates of hell.

One thing that we have is the witness of the Spirit and a guarentee of our inheritance in heaven. My belief in God is not just a belief system. I believe in God because I know Him personally, the Holy Spirit bears witness to who He is. John 14:15 “If you love Me, keep My commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. 18 I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you. Ephesians 1:13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory. 1 John 3:23 And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment. 24 Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us. I grew up in the Church, I believed in God for a while but I never saw power in it. Mix that with situations of I thought it was a powerless belief system so I went looking for something real. I ended up into wicca and many other new age practices. While I was dabbling into that stuff I had alot of crazy experiences, especially with the demonic. When I was 16, I was with a girl at the time who had become possessed by a demon, had three voices coming out her mouth and was trying to slice through her wrist. I got the knife out of her hand and had her restrained, I didn't know what to do then suddenly I just heard, "rebuke it in Jesus name" I did and she spit up and was completely normal. At this time, I was not a believer but God was showing me that Jesus has a name above any other. After many other encounters, I was 18 years old and coming off drugs. I got in a fight with God and started shouting question after question at Him. The next day my sister brought me to Church, I didn't want to go but she made me. The worship started and I started feeling this love, peace, and joy wash over me and then suddenly a hatred rose up and I kept hearing, "I'm not giving my life to Jesus!" But I recognized that wasn't my thought. Right when that was going on, the lady on the worship team spoke something in tongues. I got hit with the presence of God and I was trembling in snot and tears, I got delivered, all the anger was gone. Then the pastor said, I feel like God is saying to change my sermon, so I'm going to preach something different today. Then, he answered the questions I shouted at God. After that I gave my life to the Lord and got filled with His Spirit. That was 12 years ago. There was such a huge difference between me believing when I was growing up and encountering God and receiving His Spirit. His Spirit bears witness of the one true God and is the proof, Jesus is the only way and the guarantee of my salvation. This is how every believer is convinced, the Holy Spirit. Though everyone's coming to Jesus is different, it's the Holy Spirit that leads us in truth that convinces and convicts our hearts of the reality of Jesus. Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. 15 For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba, Father.” Since I gave my life to the Lord, there's been this internal knowing of God, this awareness of His presence. I do alot of street ministry, and when I pray over people many of them say they feel really lite and filled with peace. It's the presence of the Holy Spirit, He's real and He's tangible. He also bears witness to the Gospel through doing what only God can do. My friend was praying over a girl whose shoulder was messed up and Jesus healed it. Just then a Muslim man walked up and at first wanted to fight us because he thought we were hitting a girl he had a crush on. She testified her arm got healed and I asked him if he had any pain in his body. He had bullet wounds from years ago, that cause him constant pain. After a quick prayer he was like, "What did you do to me? I'm a Muslim!" I shared with him the reality of Jesus and His precious good news. He is the only one who can do that! He is the only way, and offers the only guarantee of our salvation. His Spirit living inside of us.

There is only one God. Isaiah 45:5 I am the Lord, and there is no other; There is no God besides Me.... Psalm 100:3 Know that the Lord, He is God; It is He who has made us, and not we ourselves; We are His people and the sheep of His pasture. Through religion and wisdom man did not know God. 1 Corinthians 1:21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. 2 Corinthians 3:14 But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ. Jesus was the revealing of who God really is. He took the judgement of the world upon Himself that we may truly know God, not just in belief but have a real relationship with Him. Colossians 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. John 12: 31 Now is the judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out. 32 And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all peoples to Myself.” John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. John 17:3 And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.

First, with Reinhard bonnke, those numbers came off of decision cards during the crusades. The decision cards are followed up by the local Church, one thing I love about Bonnkes ministry is that he firmly believes all evangelism should lead people to their local Church. Here's an example of 15 Million giving their lives to the Lord. Also with Heidi Bakers, look into it. They have planted thousands of Churches, took in Orphans and the most unloveable and produce some of the most amazing loves of Jesus you can meet. Whole villages come to the Lord because they see the power of God working, also a team from Harvard came down to investigate the reports of healing and now there is a medical journal documenting blind eyes opening. Here's a link to the medical journal https://scholarworks.iu.edu/dspace/handle/2022/14131 With Kim Walker, if that's how you want to view that word, there is nothing I can say to change your mind. It can be interpreted many different ways dependent on the lense you view that word. If you think being Born of the Spirit, a new creation, born of God, right to be children of God, that word makes sense. Pseudo Pantheism, I don't see that. But, hey in the end it really only matters what God thinks. Now with the glory of the Lord, funny how those meetings people do get stuck to the ground, tremble, shake, but there is also extreme expressions of joy. The Kingdom is righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit. You are saying that they would be trembling because of fear and crying out for repentance, which has happened in some of the meetings where God fell like that such as the Brownsville revival. But what if they believe Jesus actually forgave them and His blood was enough? 1 John 4:17 Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world. 18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love. 19 We love Him because He first loved us. What if they have been captured by God's perfect love? In heaven, are we going to be trembling with fear and horrified because we're close to Jesus? Now, lets talk about repetitive worship, worshiping saying over and over and over again, I love you Jesus, Fire fall down, let it rain, etc. Isn't incantation it is meditation on Jesus and aspects of His character, with expressions like let it rain, fire, etc. They are expressions of His presence. There is nothing wrong with this worship, David would often repeat things also especially toward the end of Psalms. Also, what does heaven's worship look like? Revelation 4:8 The four living creatures, each having six wings, were full of eyes around and within. And they do not rest day or night, saying: “Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, Who was and is and is to come!” Emotional worship isn't a bad thing, especially because we're supposed to worship God with all our hearts.The bible doesn't warn against repetitive worship, only repetitive prayer. Matthew 6:7 And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words. Singing God is worthy over and over again is not a vain repetition and the intention is worship not trying to get God to hear cause our many words.You will find nothing in scripture against worship that is repetitive. There is a Kundilini spirit, which testifies against Jesus and also testifies that there is no original sin, and those who get into that spirit get really twisted. The fruit of what you're accusing is passionate love for Jesus, increased awareness that He is the only way, that He offers salvation for sin, that He was God in the flesh, the only begotten son of God. Once again, the testimony of Jesus is everything. Every new age infiltration takes away from the deity and blood of Jesus Christ.

I would say what makes a marriage valid is being joined together by covenant and recognized by the community as a married couple.

Wow, praise the Lord, Yay Jesus! That's such a powerful testimony!