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While I think those comments are out of line, we need to look at a bigger picture also. Many stations carry Sunday services from various chuches, so if say one Sunday a preacher is speaking about homosexuality, will he be banned from the station because he said it is sinful and evil? There's a much bigger issue here we need to keep an eye on.

Thanks all who replied, you have given me alot of help! Thanks!

This is just....scary http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,254360,00.html

I would take her to dr's too. Sounds like the creep in the bar was up to something. If her hubby can give a description of the guy to the police, and the bar employees know him, they may be able to go after him. She was lucky to have witnesses, most women don't.

I don't go as much as I should. Mainly cause of laziness. But I know I need church. There also has to be balance. If church takes up so much of your time, and your neglecting your family, then there's a problem. Someone once said something that made sense to me too. "What you do out of church is more important than what you do in church." Many out there are Sunday Saints and Monday sinners.

I do believe God moved me to this church. They are doing some great things, and I believe God is going to use me there in thier outreaches because of what God brought me out of.

Please don't be combative. I beg of you all. Let me ask you all this. If you are in a church, and said church believes certain things, which are totally opposite of what I've been previously taught in my former church, or I don't agrre with some of the teaching, should I leave said church? Or just take what I believe to be true and leave the rest? The church I currently attend listens to certain preachers which shall remain nameless, that many others believe are false teachers. I don't believe there is ever going to be a church in which a person agrees 100% with everything taught. I believe every church has preached something incorrect, so where does that leave a believer?

Praise God for His favor!

I could be you, because you sound just like me. I still struggle with self esteem and self worth issues. I have all my life. I think its a struggle too because we are taught in our christian walk to say, I am nothing, but in Christ I am everything. Its a balancing act I am not good at. I have made some progress, but not as much as I'd like. Forgive me if I seemed calous about it, it wasn't my intent.

I agree, however, I'm not a theologian, so I don't know all the ins and outs of interpretation. My pastor could preach something, and I find it does line up with the word, however, even pastors are giving thier interpretation of said Word. I can't think of any examples without starting a debate, but I hope I'm getting my question across the right way.

Thanks for all the replies. What scares me though, and I've read it here many a time, that those who sit under false teaching, even if they don't know its false, won't be going to heaven. To me, that scares the heck out of me. Your thoughts on this?

It bugs me when I read things like that, and people believe it. Let me ask you this, as it was asked to me once by a christian counselor. He asked me, "Do you believe Jesus lives on the inside of you?" I said "Yes, of course." He then replies, "Then how could you not like yourself?" Of course, we are still sinners saved by grace, and should not think more highly of ourselves than we ought, but going around hating ourselves is a pretty bad witness. There's a big difference between humility and feeling humiliation about ourselves. And if people have a problem with your looks, well, that's thier problem not yours.

I recently started watching myself, and I absolutley love it, very inspiring.

Firehill, I do have a very analytical mind, to a fault sometimes too! I guess what I'm also wondering is if you give someone a scripture, and ask them what it means, you can get three different answers from 3 different people. In some cases, they could all be right, or all be wrong. Since my walk with God, I have attended 2 diff churches, and while they agree on some things, they also have differences on some. I myself could interpret scripture one way, and have someone say "That's not what it means." I see alot of that on this board, and while its usually a resonable discussion, I have been on other boards where its gotten quite nasty. There are people who's sole purpose is to go around telling how wrong others are in thier interpretation of scripture, and to me, that's a bit prideful. So this also has me thinking, if we are bent on being right, in some ways does it come down to pride? Sort of like "I'm right and your wrong, so there!" I personally believe that certain scritptures have one meaning, and that's it. I believe that as an individual, said interpretation can mean one thing for one person's situation, and something for anothers. (I hope that made sense, wasn't sure how to word it.) Here's an example-(Don't know where it is in the bible, but I know its there) John the Baptist was preaching and at one point he said "I must decrease, He must increase." Now I had been saved only a short time, and had a bunch of stuff going on in my life, so what I got out of that scripture was, "I need to let go of all my junk, and replace it with Jesus." I have also read that is not what it meant. But for me at that time, thats what I got out of it, so is that wrong? I also can tell you that the church I'm in preaches alot of things that some people on this board disagree with. I think no matter what curch you go to, you will always find differences in what is preached. Many say, "Does it line up with the word?" Well, that depends on how a person interprets said scripture doesn't it? Thoughts?

I don't want this to turn into a huge debate, but this is something that has been bugging me for a long time. I couldn't find a specific thread on it, just some general answers here and there. Please do not tell me who is a false teacher/flase doctrine and who is not, thats not what I'm looking for. So, how do you know who is teaching truths, and who is teaching lies? Anyone, and I mean anyone, can justify thier stance on why they are right and someone else is wrong. I have read posts from people who save they like so and so, and others who say that so and so is a false teacher. Or believe the doctrine of this denom is right, and the others are wrong. So do you think any of us really know the exact truth? What make what one blieves so much more right than what someone else believes? I am struggling in my walk, because from all sides I hear this debate over who is right and wrong. Can someone please help me out?

Your words don't sound dumb. As for the song, pretty much sums it up for me. Kind of like, "I don't get it God. What is going on?" As you know I did my testimony, and it has led me to remember that He is still there. I guess there are still some things I struggle with, mainly trusting Him. I know not having a good earthly father figure can affect our view of God, and I am trying to work through that. I do appreciate your replies.

Yes, I am tithing and giving offerings. God has met our needs in various ways, also. However, we are 2 weeks away from losing our home, and I can't bring myself to go p to my husband and say. "Your such a hard worker, I appreciate all you have done." When inside, I know he could have filed his taxes to get us out of this mess. If we end up homeless am I supposed to keep being the loving wife whe he could have done something and chose not to? I don't believe God rewards bad behavior, and I don't think I should either. I think there is a point when we just need to use the sense God gave us.

Now christians are becoming the 'other', according to what most liberal and non christians believe. We are considered hateful because we don't believe the 'its all about me' is the right way to live, and I'm not just speaking of homosexuals either. Someone recently said that radical christianty is as bad as radical Islam. Marginalization? Maybe not, but we are falling into one of the least accepted groups these days.

Chief, I have looked up adultery and in my bible dictionary it can also mean idolatry. So imo, and I may be wrong, but putting himself, or his computer games before his marriage idolatry/adultery? I also didn't mean to put it out that married believers had no idea what I was going through, sorry if it came across that way, its not what I meant. (Sometimes my fingers don't keep up with my brain ) TheoMike, we went to counseling, and after the first session he said I should go alone more first, becasue I have way more issues than he does. We even separated for a while, and I thought it might wake him up, but it did not. This has been going on for a couple years, I'm just tired of it. Thanks for your replies.

I'm glad he veto'd it too. Its a much more complicated situation than people realize, and there is alot of good going, we just don't hear about it. The main reason I'm glad is they tried to insert millions on spending which had nothing to do with the war.

I think we have to be careful of everything we watch/listen to. Including watchdog groups or whatever you call them. I contacted that watchman group and asked them if they could direct me to thier financial accountability web pages, and never got a response. And I couldn't find it anywhere on thier site. I'm sorry, I think someone has a pretty sad existance if all they do is go around pointing fingers. They need to remember when you point your finger, there's three pointing back at you.

I've come across this alot with some people I work with, and I did start to view the dvd on a website, but something in my spirit said, "Don't go there. This is nothing but lies." It makes me cringe every time I think about how many people are falling into this and how many churches are using it.

however, preaching continual doom and gloom does nothing for the kingdom, except scare the wits out of people. I said continual doom and gloom, compared to teaching how to live the christian life. Edit-posted wrong quote

No problem. I do appreciate your replies, and I do agree to a point, but not all circumstances can be lumped into one category. I think those who have had good marriages and are married to other believers have a hard time understanding the position some of us wives are in, and I know quite a few of us. Especially when it is affecting the children.

Well, I know I am under my Pastor's authority, but I don't agree with everything that comes out of His mouth either. I don't blindly follow anyone except Jesus. I was told by them to give more compliments, do more for him, something other stuff I won't put here, I know young ones are around ; but I'm sure you know what I mean. I've done that before, and his behavior get alot worse, because in his mind he thinks that everything is just fine and dandy. I also know the Bible say that a man who doesn't take care of his family is as bad as an infidel. So I just have a hard time doting over an infidel.