truthbringer

He was heart broken. Gen 6:5-6 yes he was. this does not preclude knowldge the event was going to take place Stick to the truth, not your own opinion.

God didn't know before, Otherwise why would He repent. the two are not exclusive. I can know my son is going to lie to me and when he does it still be sad that he did so. Keep to the truth, not your own opinion.

God didn't know before, Otherwise why would He repent.

The problem with your veiw is V2 says No man understands it,

You don't understand what it is referring to. It is not referring to some type of absentmindedness, but is speakin in legal terms. He is referring to a Divine Pardon: For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. (Hebrews 8:10-12) For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before, This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. (Hebrews 10:14-17) In the case of Divine Pardon "remembering their inquities no more" does not mean that God literally forgets, but that He is not laying those sins to their account. Because God is omniscient, it is not possible for God to "literally" forget anything. No, the Bible does not teach that. The Bible never claims that God has chosen not to know all things. You need to provide some Scripture, or else you need to give up this false teaching. Acording to the original Hebrew text, God Litterally forgets our sins.

Please E-Mail me at, alan4christ@supanet.com I will help if I can.

[1] Jesus healed the sick, raised the dead, cleansed the leper, cast out devils, Made the lame to walk, the blind to see, the deaf to hear, the dumb to speak and so much more good things. [2]Yes Jesus is still doing these things today, He is doing greater things through His Church. [3] Yes people do limit Jesus through, Lack of knowledge, lack of faith and disobedience. [4] The way to let Jesus out of His box, is to Know all things are possible, Believe all things are possible and let Him do what he wants to in our lives, let Him live big in our lives and let His love and power flow through us and out of our lives so the world can see that all things are possible with God. [5]Jesus's other works are shown as we lead people into the rebirth [Jesus never got anyone born again during His earthly Ministy] By getting people baptised in the Holy Ghost. By doing the greater works that Jesus said we would do, [but some people have to start to do the same works that Jesus did first].

The Holy Ghost is someone who can be felt, we have. Love through the Holy Ghost. Romans 5: 5. Peace & joy in the Holy Ghost. Romans 14: 17. He can be greived. Ephesians 4: 30. He can be quenched. 1 Thessalonians 5: 19. To quench Him, means to put out His fire and stop His operations. He gives us power. Acts 1: 8. Gifts 1 Corinthians 12: 4--11. He shows us things to come. John 16: 13. He is someone that every Christian needs to be full of. Ephesians 5: 18. The Greek word for, "Be filled", means, To keep on being filled. Full of love, Full of peace, Full of Joy, Full of power, Full of God. But to be, Full of the Holy Ghost we need to be baptised in the Holy Ghost first.

omnipresence is the property of being present everywhere, so God does not need to be "in" the rock to be omnipresent, you misunderstand what is omnipresence. God's power is not limited by the fact he cant create a rock so big that He cannot lift it. It is a logical fallacy for such a thing to exist because God is an infinite being and a rock is a finite object, so logically it cant be so big that God could not lift it. To quote CS Lewis...omnipotence means power to do all that is intrinsically possible, not to do the intrinsically impossible. You may attribute miracles to him, but not nonsense your putting God on a linear time table like ours, God is the Alpha and Omega, he is the begining and end. he is not traped in time like you and I, so he knows what your choice will be because to God you have already made it. The Bible tells us he knows our thoughts, the Bible tells us he knows the words we will say before we say them, the Bible tells us he knows what we will do before he as made us. There is no middle ground on this, either God knows, or he is not God. the word grieved in this case does not mean sorrow, it means to oppress or wrong. The phrase "to be be grieved" has more than just the meaning to be sadend. no, it really does not go against Paul at all. Jesus for a time gave up the use of his divine attributes so that he could accomplish the task before him. And even if "only the Father" knew, then God still knew and there is no knowldge that God did not have. You are reading the verse wrong...what did not enter his mind was to command them to do such things, not that they would not do them. Proper sentence construction, the words "neither came it into my mind" refer to the part prior to them, not the ones after based on the comma usage. I am afraid of going that extra step, because God tells me that extra step is not true, and I believe him. And still God is not a cruel God that does all that stuff you just said. God knowing my words before I say them does not make him a cruel God, it makes him even more loving in that He sent his Son, even knowing all that I would say and do. If God does not know all, there is no way for us to be sure things will turn out in the end like he said they would, there is no assurance of salvation. There is no way to know for sure if he triumphs over Satan, maybe Satan will do something that God did not expect and we will all be lost. The implications of what you are putting forth are immense. I don

because you are mistaken, I will not make a judgement of which it is. I have read the Bible end to end, they are not there. When one makes a statement like you did, it is their responsibility to back it up. There is no possible way I can give you the scriptures you ask for as they do not exist. I have given you scripture that shows the opposite of what you have said. You have not offered one verse to back up your position. You have played a silly word game instead. Based on your responses, the only logical conclusion one can come to is either you think they exist but dont know really know where, or you are spreading false doctrine on purpose. [1] I'm not mistaken, There are scriptures that indicate that God didn't know certain things. [2] You may have read the Bible, But to read it is one thing, To understand it is another thing. And judging your post's, you obviously dont understand the Bible. [3] If you have read the Bible, You'll see that the scripturs are there. [4] You havn't give me scripture that prove the oposite That is a lie, You have only gaiven scripture that show that God knows things. [5] You said, " The only logical conclusion", That is your problem, You trust your logic rather then revelation knowledge of the Bible, No wonder you can't find the scriptures.

because you are mistaken, I will not make a judgement of which it is. I have read the Bible end to end, they are not there. When one makes a statement like you did, it is their responsibility to back it up. There is no possible way I can give you the scriptures you ask for as they do not exist. I have given you scripture that shows the opposite of what you have said. You have not offered one verse to back up your position. You have played a silly word game instead. Based on your responses, the only logical conclusion one can come to is either you think they exist but dont know really know where, or you are spreading false doctrine on purpose. [1] I'm not mistaken, There are scriptures that indicate that God didn't know certain things. [2] You may have read the Bible, But to read it is one thing, To understand it is another thing. And judging your post's, you obviously dont understand the Bible. [3] If you have read the Bible, You'll see that the scripturs are there. [4] You said, " The only logical conclusion", That is your problem, You trust your logic rather then revelation knowledge of the Bible, No wonder you can't find the scriptures.

The Bible says that God has the capasity to forget our sins and not to remember them any more. The Bible also more than indecates that God doesnt know all things, Just like God can forget our sins, He has the capasity to chose not to know everything. The Bible clearly teaches that nothing escapes the eye of the Lord and nothing is hide from His eye. He knew all before the world was even created. Open theism is a deadly doctrine. I dont teach Theism, I just tell what the word says, If you werent ignorant you'll see it to. Theism may be a deadly doctrine, but your view of God makes God evil. STOP AND THINK ABOUT IT. The Bible Indicates that God didn't know cirtain things, where does ithe Bible say God knew all things before the world was created.

Isaiah 46:9-10 Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God and there is no other; I am God and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come. I say: My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please.' Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the earth and the world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God. Isa 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones. Revelation 1:8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 21:6 He said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life. Revelation 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. If God dwells within time, then He is subject to its restraints, I say that he is not. 2 Peter 3:8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: with the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day, How clearer could we be told that human time has no meaning for God? What I would ask is for some support that God is constrained or exist within our "time". But please give us the passages that show that God does not know everything first, that is a much bigger theological issue. as for the last statement of the Brandon's Popo, while it might have been harsh, he, like I, believe that the idea that God is not all knowing is a heresy, and as such there really should not be any love for such statements. None of those scriptures show God knew things before that world was created. The nearest is, "Frome the begining of the world".

Sweetie when you have lived through what I have experienced in these short 31 years of life, and the healing and deliverence that have been asked for then come talk to me. I love ya dear, but I think you have very little idea where I am coming from. Noi offense intended!!! you can talk to me about healing, and I'll get you healed every time. [if you will believe the word of God]