oak Posted September 27, 2009 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 67 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 503 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 31 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/14/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted September 27, 2009 (edited) This has been a great struggle with me. When do we punish? When do we reject and cast away and yet when we do, are we still showing love and mercy. I would like to introduce Christ into this post. Yes, Christ was at times was very stern and said things that we sometimes touch upon Edited September 27, 2009 by oak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believer1997 Posted September 27, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 66 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,363 Content Per Day: 1.13 Reputation: 119 Days Won: 9 Joined: 11/07/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted September 27, 2009 8 priests in 10 years? Is that a normal rotation? It seems almost a revolving door. Is punishment due the latest priest? What has he done to deserve their displeasure? Punishment should always be meted with a certain sense of regret - it's not a pleasurable thing and the fact that it is sometimes necessary should be decided after considered thought. imo. I remember that I attended a church that had to remove the pastor... but, he was involved in some serious felonies... There are many pastors for whom I did not feel 'a spiritual connection', but that may have been my fault... Blessings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oak Posted September 27, 2009 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 67 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 503 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 31 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/14/2008 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 8 priests in 10 years? Is that a normal rotation? It seems almost a revolving door. Is punishment due the latest priest? What has he done to deserve their displeasure? Punishment should always be meted with a certain sense of regret - it's not a pleasurable thing and the fact that it is sometimes necessary should be decided after considered thought. imo. I remember that I attended a church that had to remove the pastor... but, he was involved in some serious felonies... There are many pastors for whom I did not feel 'a spiritual connection', but that may have been my fault... Blessings! Believer: I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunterpoet Posted September 27, 2009 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 128 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,704 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 25 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/29/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/08/1950 Share Posted September 27, 2009 8 priests in 10 years, and all were unsatisfactory to the congregation. It would be interesting to know their objections. On the surface, to me, it seems as if they are shopping, looking for a priest that fits there wants and desires, rather than their spiritual needs. The fact that they express satisfaction through their gladness causes me to think that they are the ones in need of correction and not the priests. On the other hand, if they are devout followers of Christ and Glorify God in their everyday lives, well then, I'm mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smalcald Posted September 28, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,258 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 42 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/16/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/22/1960 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Hi Oak, I don't want to get sidetracked by denom issues. But are you Roman Catholic or Episcopalian? Whenever I hear Priest I assume Catholic. I think in Catholic parishes, it is what it is, you get sent a priest, you can complain about the priest and that will be taken into account; but isn't it essentially the Bishops decision, not the congregations? Now if you are Protestant like most here your congregation chooses the leaders, my denomination sends us candidates and we must choose among those candidates but it is still up to the congregation. In that case if we were to go through 8 ministers in 10 years I would have to say the problem is with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oak Posted September 28, 2009 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 67 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 503 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 31 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/14/2008 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 28, 2009 Hi Oak, I don't want to get sidetracked by denom issues. But are you Roman Catholic or Episcopalian? Whenever I hear Priest I assume Catholic. I think in Catholic parishes, it is what it is, you get sent a priest, you can complain about the priest and that will be taken into account; but isn't it essentially the Bishops decision, not the congregations? Now if you are Protestant like most here your congregation chooses the leaders, my denomination sends us candidates and we must choose among those candidates but it is still up to the congregation. In that case if we were to go through 8 ministers in 10 years I would have to say the problem is with us. Smalcald: The replies I get always fascinate me though you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgedrw81 Posted September 28, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,823 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 36 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/10/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted September 28, 2009 The congregation probably can influence the bishop. The bishops are very powerful in your religion and they take the decisions. Unless your church is considered poor and the priests dont want to stay there. You can stop the changing of a priest through court order and this is because orthodox priests are paid by goverment - the tax payers - not the church. Christians deal with human authority by following the guidance of God and Jesus. Blessings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smalcald Posted September 28, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,258 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 42 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/16/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/22/1960 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Hi Oak, I don't want to get sidetracked by denom issues. But are you Roman Catholic or Episcopalian? Whenever I hear Priest I assume Catholic. I think in Catholic parishes, it is what it is, you get sent a priest, you can complain about the priest and that will be taken into account; but isn't it essentially the Bishops decision, not the congregations? Now if you are Protestant like most here your congregation chooses the leaders, my denomination sends us candidates and we must choose among those candidates but it is still up to the congregation. In that case if we were to go through 8 ministers in 10 years I would have to say the problem is with us. Smalcald: The replies I get always fascinate me though you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsylady Posted September 28, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 171 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,813 Content Per Day: 0.64 Reputation: 150 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/26/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted September 28, 2009 But what demonic forces did I mention? I think the poster was confused with your 'denom" mention, when you meant denomination... ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smalcald Posted September 28, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,258 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 42 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/16/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/22/1960 Share Posted September 28, 2009 But what demonic forces did I mention? I think the poster was confused with your 'denom" mention, when you meant denomination... ?? Oh yes I meant denominations, not demons. Oops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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