~candice~ Posted October 2, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 955 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 11,318 Content Per Day: 1.89 Reputation: 448 Days Won: 33 Joined: 12/16/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted October 2, 2009 My decidedly unchristian revenge meter is going into the red Beware! go boil an egg! :24: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1149 Posted October 3, 2009 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 106 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/31/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted October 3, 2009 AISI, who to confess to depends on the nature of the sin. When the Prodigal Son returned, he said to his father "I have sinned against heaven and in your sight". Similarly, sins against a marriage should be confessed to the spouse, sins against the Body should be confessed to the Body. That way both vertical and horizontal relationships are restored. Even the passage in James talks about calling in the church elders. I see this as a sort of discernment/counselling/repentance session with mature believers. There's power in unity, and Jesus did give the church the power to pronounce the forgiveness of sins. What I don't agree with is making canon law out of this stuff and saying it's the only way for all sins to be confessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humbleseeker Posted October 3, 2009 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 519 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/11/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1980 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I get were the catholic church is comming from. Confessing heals us and it is someone to confide in without much fear of shouting your sin in the street. Realy though people who abuse confession probably dont have a very good relationship with the Lord in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunterpoet Posted October 3, 2009 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 128 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,704 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 25 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/29/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/08/1950 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Jesus did give the church the power to pronounce the forgiveness of sins. Would you please tell me where to find this in the gospel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leoxiii Posted October 3, 2009 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 512 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/30/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/25/1955 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Catholics confess in the presence of their priests because Jesus gave to the Apostles alone the authority to forgive and retain sins, and our priests alone are those who carry on the Apostolic Succession. Our priests stand in the place of Christ for us whenever they make present the power of God through the Sacraments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunterpoet Posted October 3, 2009 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 128 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,704 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 25 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/29/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/08/1950 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Catholics confess in the presence of their priests because Jesus gave to the Apostles alone the authority to forgive and retain sins, and our priests alone are those who carry on the Apostolic Succession. Our priests stand in the place of Christ for us whenever they make present the power of God through the Sacraments. 1) " carry on the apostolic succession ".....by who's authority, and what scriptures support this. 2) " stand in the place of Christ "...I do not understand this at all. Please explain how Christ would need any human to stand in His place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Elly Posted October 3, 2009 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 415 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 15 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/31/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/02/1945 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Catholics confess in the presence of their priests because Jesus gave to the Apostles alone the authority to forgive and retain sins, and our priests alone are those who carry on the Apostolic Succession. Our priests stand in the place of Christ for us whenever they make present the power of God through the Sacraments. If catholic priests are supposed to carry on the Apostolic Succession, then why aren't they working miracles like the original apostles, you know, like healing the sick, raising the dead. Personally I cannot understand what makes them think they are in the line of the apostles. Jesus Christ is my high priest and he is sitting at the right hand of God, interceeding for me, I don't need another. And as far as the sacraments, the presence of the Holy Spirit while receiving communion is good enough for me. You don't need a "Jesus" stand-in, because he is already there in the form of the Holy Spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokemaughan Posted October 3, 2009 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 74 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 630 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 12 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/19/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/09/1990 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I was under the impression that Catholic isn't biblical, so I wouldn't partake in anything without doing your homework first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1149 Posted October 3, 2009 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 106 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/31/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted October 3, 2009 Jesus did give the church the power to pronounce the forgiveness of sins. Would you please tell me where to find this in the gospel. Mt 16.19, 18.18, Jn 20.23 for starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Shalhevet~ Posted October 3, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 334 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 2,049 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 120 Days Won: 4 Joined: 08/13/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted October 3, 2009 A priest cannot forgive anyone's sins I don't believe. Jesus Christ sits at the right hand of God as our intercessor and he will forgive us our trespasses. Through Jesus Christ, a priest can forgive a person's sins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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