Axxman Posted December 9, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 3,292 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/21/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted December 9, 2009 I'm praying for this situation. That the truth in the matter will come to light... I have the highest respect for the US Navy and the Seals - I pray that they acted honorably and with integrity. Couldn't agree more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted December 9, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted December 9, 2009 Let's also remember that it was the SEAL team that requested this trial. If they had taken a Captain Mast, then they would be saying they are guilty. They are here to prove their innocence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishcowboy Posted December 9, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 127 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3,248 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 13 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/23/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted December 9, 2009 the way I read the article, was that the guy was injured DURING.... DURING THE APPREHENSION...... personally, I support the seals, some of my best friends while I was in the Navy, were seals, and they are very trusting folks. just do what you are suppose to do, and nothing will happen...... I have not been the one doing the investigation, so I have no idea about who is and who is not guilty of what is being said.... I was not there either... let the court do its job..... and the military investigators are not... ARE NOT... infallible either.... there have been innocent people found guilty of crimes while in the military and it follows them the rest of their lives..... it would be better to allow a criminal to go free then to incarcerate an innocent man...... mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishcowboy Posted December 9, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 127 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3,248 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 13 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/23/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted December 9, 2009 Let's also remember that it was the SEAL team that requested this trial. If they had taken a Captain Mast, then they would be saying they are guilty. They are here to prove their innocence. exactly.... Capt Mast if NJP, which is pretty much does not follow them, but can cost them their paygrade or even two, cost them 1/2 months pay for several months, and even brig time and or restriction time.... most people call, NJP as "Guilty until proven innocent" and Courts Marshal is "Innocent until proven guilty" yes, with the NJP, it may have been nothing more then a slap on the wrist, or a bust and brig time, maybe even working parties (kind of like the ol' chain gangs, with out the chains).... but yet, it can be the principle of the thing..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiritman Posted December 9, 2009 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 127 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,131 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/22/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/25/1962 Share Posted December 9, 2009 From what I've read so far, unless someone can point me to a link with more information. The jury is still out on this one; I will wait until I hear more information, therefore I can't see myself signing the Petition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikki1 Posted December 9, 2009 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,260 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 55 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/29/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted December 9, 2009 Blessings, Axxman Lots of others are involved...including the fine Navy men and women who conducted the investigation...whom nobody seems to want to support suddenly This topic is not about lots of others, so there is no need to change it. I have no idea if they are guilty. But earlier you said the Seals were. Axxman Maybe none of this wouldn't have happened if they hadn't done it in the first place. It's good to see you have "apparently" changed your mind. yet You still are making insinuations and accusations pertaining to the Seals that have not been substantiated by a court. Axxman There is nothing "miniscule" about assaulting a person in your custody/care. You do not know how this AlQuaeda terrorist received his alleged bloody lip. No one does. This has already been pointed out by me in a previous post. And IF one of the Seals did do it, it could very likely have been in self-defense while the AlQaeda terrorist was being resistive, which is perfectly legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted December 9, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted December 9, 2009 Let's also remember that it was the SEAL team that requested this trial. If they had taken a Captain Mast, then they would be saying they are guilty. They are here to prove their innocence. exactly.... Capt Mast if NJP, which is pretty much does not follow them, but can cost them their paygrade or even two, cost them 1/2 months pay for several months, and even brig time and or restriction time.... most people call, NJP as "Guilty until proven innocent" and Courts Marshal is "Innocent until proven guilty" yes, with the NJP, it may have been nothing more then a slap on the wrist, or a bust and brig time, maybe even working parties (kind of like the ol' chain gangs, with out the chains).... but yet, it can be the principle of the thing..... It would also remain on their record forever, which is what they did not want. They choose this avenue for this reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikki1 Posted December 9, 2009 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,260 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 55 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/29/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted December 9, 2009 Here's an update from today: Government Has Yet to Provide Evidence to Support Its Prosecution of Navy Seals for Alleged Punching of Terrorist Norfolk, Va. (CNSNews.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted December 9, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted December 9, 2009 Well...thats the thing. He wasn't injured during arrest. He was in custody, in a holding cell. It has been widely reported that a witness has testified to his condition in that cell. What if he injured himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted December 9, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted December 9, 2009 From all the sources I have read, some say he was hit in the stomach and punched in the mouth. Others say one of the other. The one that Nikki listed only speaks of being punched in the stomach. How in the world can anyone prove they were punched in the stomach? Axxman, how can this be proven when there are no marks, unless there are witnesses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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