jamie Posted August 7, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 104 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,026 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/13/2003 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 7, 2004 YOU ARE PAYING IN YOUR MONEY AND ALLOWING A MAN TO DESIGNATE WHERE IT GOES. ALSO SOMEONE IS NOTICING WHO PAYS THE MOST AND WHO PAYS THE LEAST. NOT A GOOD SITUATION. WHY NOT EVERYBODY CHIP IN TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON, AND THEN GIVE THEIR OWN MONEY TO THE POOR OR WHEREVER THE HOLY SPIRIT LEADS? THERE WOULD BE A WHOLE LOT LESS CORRUPTION THIS WAY. THE TRADITIONAL TITHE PUTS PEOPLE IN CATAGORIES WITH THE BIGGEST SPENDERS HOLDING THE BIGGEST TITLES. I SEE IT IN EVERY CHURCH I GO INTO. IT'S A MAJOR PROBLEM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LCPGUY Posted August 7, 2004 Share Posted August 7, 2004 YOU ARE PAYING IN YOUR MONEY AND ALLOWING A MAN TO DESIGNATE WHERE IT GOES. ALSO SOMEONE IS NOTICING WHO PAYS THE MOST AND WHO PAYS THE LEAST. NOT A GOOD SITUATION. WHY NOT EVERYBODY CHIP IN TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON, AND THEN GIVE THEIR OWN MONEY TO THE POOR OR WHEREVER THE HOLY SPIRIT LEADS? THERE WOULD BE A WHOLE LOT LESS CORRUPTION THIS WAY. THE TRADITIONAL TITHE PUTS PEOPLE IN CATAGORY'S WITH THE BIGGEST SPENDERS HOLDING THE BIGGEST TITLES. I SEE IT IN EVERY CHURCH I GO INTO. IT'S A MAJOR PROBLEM. Good idea in theory, but where Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie Posted August 7, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 104 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,026 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/13/2003 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 7, 2004 I believe the church is a place to meet and then go out and the individuals are to make the disciples. I think the pastor should work just like the others and not be working full time on man made programs. I think the whole body should participate in each service, not just one man. Pastor isn't held above all the other gifts in the bible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted Posted August 7, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 276 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 7,474 Content Per Day: 0.96 Reputation: 51 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/31/1966 Share Posted August 7, 2004 Well, I could just toss my money up in the air and let the wind take it where God needs it the most, but applying money to help out my church is more practical. I think a Pastor should be paid enough to make a living Pastoring. I think it's important for him to be able to devote his time to the needs of the church full time. t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie Posted August 7, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 104 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,026 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/13/2003 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 7, 2004 The church is a called out people but it has been given over to a one man show. If every person were on an equal level and each service allowed the Holy Spirit to move with testimonies, edification, and preaching, from who the spirit moves on instead of the one man has put on the pedestal, the church would be a functioning body. Instead it for the most part has only a "pastor" and his little helpers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Journey Posted August 8, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 582 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/19/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/10/1970 Share Posted August 8, 2004 God gave one of the most key mandates to the modern Prophetic movement when He said: "I am going to change the understanding and expression of Christianity IN THE EARTH in one generation." Jamie, I could not find this anywhere in the Word of God. DANGER!! DANGER!! DANGER!! You go beyond what is written you will be deceived. Truth. It is the front lines of spiritual warfare. Ifr the Church abandons Sola Scriptura then we have nothing. - Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie Posted August 8, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 104 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,026 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/13/2003 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 8, 2004 I didnt write it, I only posted it for others to read. But I do agree with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John3;16 Posted August 9, 2004 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 274 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/09/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/16/1955 Share Posted August 9, 2004 Ephesians|4:8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. Ephesians|4:9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? Ephesians|4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) Ephesians|4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; Ephesians|4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Ephesians|4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: Ephesians|4:14 That we Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John3;16 Posted August 9, 2004 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 274 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/09/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/16/1955 Share Posted August 9, 2004 1 Timothy|3:1 This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John3;16 Posted August 9, 2004 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 274 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/09/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/16/1955 Share Posted August 9, 2004 1 Corinthians|12:1 Now concerning spiritual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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