Communion

[ServingHim]

This is a new agreement between God and you that has been set in motion by MY blood."

I'm not sure what you mean ... 'a new argument between God and me'? Would you mind explaining. Thanks.. :il:

[stevehut]

Let's not turn this into a "Sola Scriptura" argument.

Actually, I was trying to do just the opposite. We all have accepted ideas that are not found in Scripture, whether we realize it or not.

As for whether they are good or bad...well, that's another discussion for another time.

[Ovedya]

where in the bible does it ever even say "communion"?

Where in the Bible does it ever say "Bible"?

Or "Pope"?

Or "Christmas"?

Sometimes words are just words, people.

so are all 'biblical' if they are not found in the 'bible'?

Let's not turn this into a "Sola Scriptura" argument.

whatever you say...I don't run the boards...it was merely an observation. :il:

Well, we've seen plenty of such "observations" that lead down roads plenty travelled.

Some folks join Worthy with a certain agenda, or to promote something else other than common fellowship. That's not what we are all about here. Here we like to try and drop our doctrines and simply fellowship on the basis of our common faith in Christ Jesus. Those with an agenda usually find it hard to do this.

I'm not saying that you have come here with a certain agenda. I am only saying that if you have, then try to drop it and fellowship with us on the basis of Christ. I think that if you do this you'll find the board much more enjoyable.

Now, having said that, I realize that as a Catholic believer you feel it's your perogative to defend your faith. That's fine. We also welcome polite debate here. But we have found that certain subjects of debate eventually degrade into flame wars. So we try to limit those kinds of discussions as much as we can.

[ServingHim]

Let's not turn this into a "Sola Scriptura" argument. 

Actually, I was trying to do just the opposite. We all have accepted ideas that are not found in Scripture, whether we realize it or not.

oh so true!

[Guest Called]

Well, we've seen plenty of such "observations" that lead down roads plenty travelled.

Some folks join Worthy with a certain agenda, or to promote something else other than common fellowship. That's not what we are all about here. Here we like to try and drop our doctrines and simply fellowship on the basis of our common faith in Christ Jesus. Those with an agenda usually find it hard to do this.

I'm not saying that you have come here with a certain agenda. I am only saying that if you have, then try to drop it and fellowship with us on the basis of Christ. I think that if you do this you'll find the board much more enjoyable.

Now, having said that, I realize that as a Catholic believer you feel it's your perogative to defend your faith. That's fine. We also welcome polite debate here. But we have found that certain subjects of debate eventually degrade into flame wars. So we try to limit those kinds of discussions as much as we can.

Thank you God-Man!

[Ovedya]

Let's not turn this into a "Sola Scriptura" argument. 

Actually, I was trying to do just the opposite. We all have accepted ideas that are not found in Scripture, whether we realize it or not.

As for whether they are good or bad...well, that's another discussion for another time.

Just because we use certain words not found in Scripture, does not make them "unscriptural." Nor does thier ussage turn out to be "tradition." Tradition is not a habitual use of certain words - it's the engagement in certain practices which are handed down.

Having said that, I also agree that newer more accurate terms can and should be used in describing Biblical truths. the partaking of the bread and wine in remembrance of the Lord can be called communion, it can be called The Lord's Table, or The Lord's Supper, and it can be called The fellowship of the Body of Christ.

I have always disagreed with the ussage of the term church to describe the building in which the church meets, but it suffices for some - and most understand that the building itself is not the church. We call ours a "meeting hall," as some others do. We do not use the term sanctuary in reference to a certain part of our meeting hall, but some do, and that's fine.

You get my meaning here? As you said, Steve, it's not the words at all. Words are only a convenient way to describe Biblical truths. But let's not let simple words be a dividing factor among us.

[ServingHim]

Well, we've seen plenty of such "observations" that lead down roads plenty travelled.

understood...

Some folks join Worthy with a certain agenda, or to promote something else other than common fellowship. That's not what we are all about here.  Here we like to try and drop our doctrines and simply fellowship on the basis of our common faith in Christ Jesus.  Those with an agenda usually find it hard to do this.

again, completely understand.

I'm not saying that you have come here with a certain agenda.  I am only saying that if you have, then try to drop it and fellowship with us on the basis of Christ.  I think that if you do this you'll find the board much more enjoyable.

I have no agenda here, god-man... but am I supposed to agree with everyone who believes slightly differently than myself? Am I supposed to join and agree 'just to fit in' and be accepted? I pray not. I'd hope that I'd be accepted EVEN IF I see it differently...I've never said that what I believe is THE ONLY WAY, but nonetheless, it IS what I believe, and I believe that I have stated WHY I believe it. I don't demand anyone to see it my way, but I feel very strongly that I should not have to rescind merely to 'be liked' here on 'worthy'. But thank you for your kind gesture to 'have fellowship'. If fellowship is the only thing that worthy is interested in, then perhaps the topics like 'controversial issues', 'doctrinal questions', and 'apologetics' should be re-named. The topic names in general don't lead necessarily to 'unity' and positive fellowship, though they should if all people are willing to listen and learn from one another (something that I sometimes fail at too, like many others). I will try my best to maintain positive discussion. I pray that others will do the same for me...and it is perfectly fine to agree to disagree. I feel that some are more 'irritated' by me BECAUSE I say things they disagree with. I am never irritated by others; but I DO desire to defend what I believe and why...all are welcome to take it or leave it. But don't discard me with the disagreement...I too desire fellowship with everyone here. I love people...I've loved being here, have prayed much for all the prayer requests, and my heart pours out for the many hurting souls.

Now, having said that, I realize that as a Catholic believer you feel it's your perogative to defend your faith.  That's fine. 

God bless you...you're a true man of God (hence, your name )

We also welcome polite debate here.  But we have found that certain subjects of debate eventually degrade into flame wars.  So we try to limit those kinds of discussions as much as we can.

advice taken...will curb my zeal for defending Christ in the Eucharist, the Church, and the teaching Magisterium of the Church.

Thanks for your kind words, God-Man! Love you, brother! :il:

[stevehut]

the partaking of the bread and wine in remembrance of the Lord can be called communion, it can be called The Lord's Table, or The Lord's Supper, and it can be called The fellowship of the Body of Christ.

I have always disagreed with the ussage of the term church to describe the building in which the church meets

I couldn't agree more.

[ServingHim]

yes...the Church is NOT a building, but THE BODY OF CHRIST! I think we all agree on that! I've never heard anyone say it is a building, but I could be wrong. Also, AS the 'Body of Christ' we're called to unity...I pray that someday we will ALL be of one mind and body! Peace and blessings. :il:

[Ovedya]

ServingHim,

Amen, brother. The forums you mentioned do have a tendency to include subject that divide. But the hope is that even in our differences of opinion on issues non-essential to salvation we can still mainatin a certain level of fellowship. It's not just the exchange of opinions, but the fellowship we gain from one another. I always like to say that fellowship goes two ways: It goes up and it goes out. We fellowship with the Triune God and we gain life and growth, then we fellowship with one another to cause the growth of the Body of Christ.

The hope is that even in our differences of opinion we can grow together. We don't have to agree necessarily, or to simply "go with the flow" for the sake of oneness. But I believe that we can grow together through our experiences. But unless the spirit of fellowship is present with us we will never grow together. Then all we are left with is self-serving opinions - that's what causes so much division.

Take "pi" out of opinions and all we are left with is onions.