B3L13v3R Posted April 16, 2010 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,261 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 1,035 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/12/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted April 16, 2010 Christian Singer Jennifer Knapp Says She's Gay Sad indeed. I tossed out my Ray Boltz CDs some time back when Ray "came out of the closet" with his homosexuality also. He then left his wife and kids... Like a brother said: "That's NOT what this altar's for...." Romans 1:24-28 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Jude 1:7-8 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted April 16, 2010 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted April 16, 2010 One's sexuality is determined at birth through genetics. Annotations from the Oxford Bible on Romans 1:26-27 "Degrading passions, while Torah forbids a male "lying with a male as with a woman" paul's Jewish contemporaries criticized a range of sexual behaviors common in the pagan world. Although widely read today as a reference to homosexuality, the language of "unnatural intercourse" was more often used in Paul's day to denote not the orientation of sexual desire, but its immoderate indulgence, which was believed to weaken the body (the due penalty). Annotations written by a person versus the word of God inspired by God. Which one should I regard? The bible is clear. Homosexuality is a sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSLewis Posted April 16, 2010 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 828 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 20 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/28/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/28/1980 Share Posted April 16, 2010 There again is a mistranslation. The NRSV fixes verse nine to correctly read "Do you not Know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! Fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, sodomites, thieves, the greedy, drunkards, revilers, robbers- none of these will inherit the kingdom of God. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSLewis Posted April 16, 2010 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 828 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 20 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/28/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/28/1980 Share Posted April 16, 2010 I think there is a big difference between being a homosexual and having sexual or lustful desires towards those of the same sex. It is probably better for homosexuals to abstain from sex altogether in a life of celibacy. I think those places that speak of homosexuality those are places in the Bible that speak of action - sodomy, masturbation etc. And do not refer to ones sexual orientation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiggersp6083 Posted April 16, 2010 Group: Members Followers: 3 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 70 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/01/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted April 16, 2010 it is very sad when someone we admire esp. if that person says they are a Christian, falls into sin. but the same blood that washes our sins away will wash jennifer knapp's sins away if she will only repent. i had trouble with this when ray boltz a minister and Christian artist came out to say he is gay. it kind of rocked my world cause of the songs he wrote of JEsus and His love for us, moved me to ters more than once. can the Lord use someone to bring people to Himself and to glorify the Lord, when He knows in just a while they will sin and even stay in that lifestyle unrepentent???? all i know is, God gave me the same grace that He gives to all who come to Him, and who am i to judge or condemn someone else. we need to bathe these people as we do all sinners in prayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted April 16, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted April 16, 2010 "you are black, my brother, . . . You are nameless, my sister, . . . . You are gay, my brother, . . . The first two are fine. The last one is unScriptural. "If the Lord supports it, Or chooses to ignore it Tell that to the people of Sodom and Gomorrah" --Whatever happened to Sin?-- by Steve Taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted April 16, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted April 16, 2010 I am proud of her coming out. It must have been really hard amidst all of her prejudice, homophobic, bigoted "fans" I will be in prayer for all of my brothers and sisters in Christ who view homosexuality as a sin. Peace "Lewis" - Scriptures are quite clear that the only sexual relation the Lord blesses and honors is that between a husband (male) and a wife (female). All other forms are disgusting to Him. The only way you can claim otherwise is to twist Scripture to say what you want it to say rather than let the Word stand for itself. And by the way, "homophobic" is a bully term. Having moral convictions is not a phobia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believer1997 Posted April 16, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 66 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,363 Content Per Day: 1.13 Reputation: 119 Days Won: 9 Joined: 11/07/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted April 16, 2010 I don't know who she is - I've heard Christian singer - but I have not heard her sing. I do not know why people who have some figment of celebrity feel the overwhelming need to open their personal lives up for display and discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~candice~ Posted April 16, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 955 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 11,318 Content Per Day: 1.89 Reputation: 448 Days Won: 33 Joined: 12/16/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted April 16, 2010 I don't know who she is - I've heard Christian singer - but I have not heard her sing. I do not know why people who have some figment of celebrity feel the overwhelming need to open their personal lives up for display and discussion. Sensationalism sells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believer1997 Posted April 16, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 66 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,363 Content Per Day: 1.13 Reputation: 119 Days Won: 9 Joined: 11/07/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted April 16, 2010 I don't know who she is - I've heard Christian singer - but I have not heard her sing. I do not know why people who have some figment of celebrity feel the overwhelming need to open their personal lives up for display and discussion. Sensationalism sells. Yes, it does. But in Ms. Knapp's line of work - I wouldn't think declaring herself a homosexual would not improve sales or concert bookings - she is marketing herself to a Christian audience. It seems to me like she shot herself in the foot here. IMO, the more "sensationalistic" ... the more I distance myself ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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