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    I would like to see the Body of Christ come together as one. Our guideline must be the Word of God and it rightly divided. Of the 20 some Bible versions I have, I find the KJV to have the most depth.

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    I would ask for prayer for these folks, that they may they continue to grow in Christ and look to be led of Him and used to His glory. They were apparently dismissed recently for some things that were not reconcilable and done outside of Terms Of Service and the Statement Of Faith for this board. Davida Yowm Colbalt Shiloh357 Butero Sojouner414 Farewell for now my friends, I have learned more than a few things from some of you folks over the years, you will be missed. If any of you should read this, please look towards the Lord concerning the dismissal if there is anything that could be gleaned from this. Look to love the Almighty first and foremost. Continue to learn, grow in Christ and His Truths, and continue to be used for His glory.
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    Amen! Good to hear sis. In hopes you and your husband have a healthy 2019~ and beyond!
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    Upon leaving the BJs store, your items in the cart are always checked against your receipt before you can leave. 👁️ 👁️ 🛒 I let them know, they are the "Eighth Commandment of God" checkers." And give them a gospel tract with the Ten Commandments, letting them know: "here are the other nine!"
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    Having The Right Berean Attitude - Greg Gordon

    Any proof on your judgmental statements of them being "joyless, critical in spirit, bitter or angry?" Here is but one of many statements made by those in such godly ministries, goes totally against the grain of what your presenting: “Is Lighthouse Trails Haters?” By Ray Yungen Recently, at a large Christian youth event, Lighthouse Trails was indirectly referred to as “haters” because of our articles and books exposing the emerging church movement. We realize that many people think ministries like Lighthouse Trails are mean-spirited, hateful, and derive pleasure from causing trouble for others. On the contrary, what motivates and drives Lighthouse Trails is a sense of duty to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We see that being the issue at stake. Right now, there is a struggle going on for what the church of the future will look like. Karl Rahner once said the Christian of the future will be a mystic or he or she will not exist at all. The question must be asked (and answered): Is this really a good thing? Will mysticism lead to a Christianity that is more vibrant and in harmony with the will of God? When one looks at the writings of those such as Henri Nouwen, Thomas Merton, Thomas Keating, etc., one finds that this mysticism is rooted firmly in a spiritual understanding more in-tune with Buddhism and Hinduism that with the writings of the apostles in the Bible. Thomas Merton said: It is a glorious destiny to be a member of the human race, … now I realize what we all are…. If only they [people] could all see themselves as they really are … I suppose the big problem would be that we would fall down and worship each other…. At the center of our being is a point of nothingness which is untouched by sin and by illusions, a point of pure truth…. This little point … is the pure glory of God in us. It is in everybody. (A Time of Departing, p. 59) This is identical to what is called in New Age spirituality, the higher self. Over the last few decades there has been an ever-increasing number of individuals in Christianity that draw on and promote persons such as Thomas Merton and Henri Nouwen. The mission at Lighthouse Trails is to point out that if the church goes in the same mystical direction as these individuals, it will ultimately embrace the spiritual perceptions such as the one just stated. If that sounds implausible, take a look at the spiritual life of Sue Monk Kidd (author of The Secret Life of Bees). Monk Kidd was at one time a conservative Southern Baptist Sunday school teacher. But after she was introduced to the writings of Thomas Merton, she branched out and began embracing contemplative practices and her spirituality dramatically changed. Eventually, it led her to say that God dwells in everything, even excrement and graffiti. At Lighthouse Trails, we are not motivated by hate for people but rather by love and concern. We believe, with everything in us, that man’s only hope lies in Jesus Christ and the free gift of salvation offered to those who believe and accept it. And we also believe that contemplative/emerging spirituality leads man away from that Gospel not toward it. This is why we do what we do. Ray Yungen Lighthouse Trails author"
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    Yoga yes / Yoga no

    Yoga NO. https://www.thebereancall.org/search/content/yoga
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    will gays go to hell if they do not repent?

    Marriage is the ONLY place sex is blessed by God, and it is ONLY between a man and a woman: Genesis 2:21-24 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; (22) And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. (23) And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. (24) Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. Matthew 19:4-6 And He answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that He which made them at the beginning made them male and female, (5) And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? (6) Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. Hebrews 13:4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge. Sexual sins covered in the Bible: -Sodomite, (Homosexual, sex with same sex,) Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:26-27, 1 Corinthians 6:9, Jude 1:7 -Transvestism, (Those who are pretending to be a woman, when really a man and vice versa) Deuteronomy. 22:5 -Bi-Sexual, (An "either way" mix of Sodomites and Fornicators/Adulterers.) -Adulterer, (Sex outside of marriage) Exodus 20:14, Deuteronomy 5:18, Hebrews 13:4 -Fornicator, (Sex without marriage) Acts 15:29 -Rape, (Force someone) to have sex against their will, Genesis 34:1-3, 2 Samuel 13:10-16 -Incestuous relationships, (Sex with family members,) whether forced or not, Leviticus 18:6-18, 1Corinthians 5:1 -Bestiality, (sex with animals,) Leviticus 18:23-24 -Pedophilia, although not specifically mentioned, is some of the worst sin there is. It's covered in some of the above sins with the additional sin of a child's innocence being stolen. Luke 17:1-2 Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come! It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones. God will never change: Malachi 3:6a For I am the LORD, I change not; However, sinful people can be forgiven, and change: Acts 3:19-20 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; (20) And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
  7. " Heidi Crowter, a 23-year-old woman from Coventry, has been voicing her experience of life with Down’s syndrome and speaking out against disability screening. Heidi said that parents “are being told lies” about Down’s syndrome and she hopes that her example of life and faith will challenge the misconceptions. She is actively involved with Don’t Screen Us Out, a campaign group highlighting that Non-Invasive Prenatal Testing (NIPT) is likely to result in a large number of abortions in the UK..."
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    will gays go to hell if they do not repent?

    Without repenting towards the Lord Jesus Christ for sin, none of these folks are getting into heaven... 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, (sex outside of marriage) nor idolaters, nor adulterers, (sex outside of marriage) nor effeminate, (homosexual men acting out a woman's role) nor abusers of themselves with mankind, (male and female homosexuals in general) (10) Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. But thanks be towards Jesus Christ for those who have truly repented towards Him. And with that repentance, comes forgiveness and an amended life. Along with the Holy Spirit's conviction about sin, and through a renewed mind, we come to see sin as He sees it, and are eternally grateful for God's very real forgiveness! Pass this on! 1 Corinthians 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary: Repentance 1. Sorrow for any thing done or said; the pain or grief which a person experiences in consequence of the injury or inconvenience produced by his own conduct. 2. In theology, the pain, regret or affliction which a person feels on account of his past conduct, because it exposes him to punishment. This sorrow proceeding merely from the fear of punishment, is called legal repentance, as being excited by the terrors of legal penalties, and it may exist without an amendment of life. 3. Real penitence; sorrow or deep contrition for sin, as an offense and dishonor to God, a violation of his holy law, and the basest ingratitude towards a Being of infinite benevolence. This is called evangelical repentance, and is accompanied and followed by amendment of life. Repentance is a change of mind, or a conversion from sin to God. Godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation. 2 Cor 7. Mat 3. Repentance is the relinquishment of any practice, from conviction that it has offended God.
  9. Same cat seven months later. He likes being inside in the evening chasing after the lazer light! Followed by sleeping in the warmer indoors. During the day, playful, spunky, and wound up while enjoying the great outdoors!
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    Confused with who to Mary

    Hi Giancarlo Pozotrigo, welcome to Worthy. Please consider repenting and believing on the Lord Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. With His forgiveness of sins comes a changed life. Consider God's Words here: Galatians 5:19-21 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, (20) Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, (21) Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. Mark 1:14-15 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, (15) And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary: (in part) Repent 1. To feel pain, sorrow or regret for something done or spoken; as, to repent that we have lost much time in idleness or sensual pleasure; to repent that we have injured or wounded the feelings of a friend. A person repents only of what he himself has done or said. 2. To express sorrow for something past. Enobarbus did before thy face repent. 3. To change the mind in consequence of the inconvenience or injury done by past conduct. Lest peradventure the people repent when they see war, and they return. Exo 13. 4. Applied to the Supreme Being, to change the course of providential dealings. Gen 6. Psa 106. 5. In theology, to sorrow or be pained for sin, as a violation of God's holy law, a dishonor to his character and government, and the foulest ingratitude to a Being of infinite benevolence. Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. Luke 13. Acts 3. REPENT', v.t 1. To remember with sorrow; as, to repent rash words; to repent an injury done to a neighbor; to repent follies and vices. Advice? Please don't marry anyone at this point in your sinful life, only a continuing hurtful future awaits for all parties involved. 1 John 2:15-17 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. (16) For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. (17) And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. If you were to repent, and learn to put God first in your life, and look to renew your mind with His Words, then you will learn to become the man He wants you to be. At this point, marriage is out. Mark 12:30-31 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. (31) And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
  11. Took a look at her site. Gender neutral ideas through black and white, Goth/Death like death clothing, "New (world?) Order" one kids and babies shirts, complete with a fictional movie called "RAISE BOYS AND GIRLS THE SAME WAY." And for the Christmas season, a little girl wearing a "HO!" shirt. I suspect with the line, this is a double entendre... Quote Celin Dion on her demonic clothing line: "The message I’m trying to get across is you raise your children the way you want to raise your children. You have to decide what’s right for them. We’re just proposing another way to take away the (gender) stereotype.” More "PC" or as we call it around here, Satanically Correct" agenda... Keep families and kids in prayer folks, Satan's looking to destroy their minds through much these days! Matthew 18:6-7 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. (7) Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!
  12. CHINA: FIRSTFRUITS OF AN ANTICHRIST SURVEILLANCE GOVERNMENT "...President Xi Jinping considers Christians one of the greatest threats to his power. Underground churches are listed as one of the ‘new black five’ national security threats in China. It’s new under this president for churches to be classified as a national security threat. The government-sanctioned churches that are allowed to exist right now have unique restrictions. Each church has to install a facial-recognition camera in front of the pulpit. The purpose is to identify certain people in the congregation. Many classes of people are banned from entering into any church. These include young people under 18 years old, college students, doctors or medical professionals, civil servants, military members and educators. If they’re found, immediately their boss or a government official will be speaking with them. These are huge ramifications right now. It really began after President Xi Jinping took office in 2012. He is now nicknamed ‘Emperor Xi’ since he successfully removed his term limits in March of this year. When he took power, the mass forced demolition of crosses started in Zhejiang province. That area is called the Jerusalem of China. ... These are government-sanctioned churches. The house churches do not have buildings or a cross. ... On February 1 of this year, a new law called ‘Regulations on the Administration of Religious Affairs’ took effect. Things have become dramatically even worse. Bible-burning campaigns are happening across China. ... China is perhaps the world’s most sophisticated surveillance police state. It’s beyond anything the U.S. does. Some of these efforts are aided by greedy American companies. ... Apple decided to remove all virtual private networks from Apple Stores across China. They have a segregated Chinese version of the Apple iCloud. Supposedly this China iCloud is still part of Apple, offering iTunes content. But it’s totally controlled by the Chinese government. Cisco and Google are similar. China has the most cameras in the whole world, on every street corner." "...I noted how China has five categories of dangerous people. Now China is also building the world’s largest so-called ‘social credit’ system. If you get a traffic ticket, then one point of morality is deducted. If you are found in the underground church, your social score is essentially zero. You lose your right to buy airplane tickets. Last week, I was in South Korea attending a house church leadership conference. But 240 out of 300 church leaders were blocked in Chinese airports, even including Hong Kong, and declared as national security threats. They were not allowed to board the flight when they checked in to Customs.” - Way of Life Literature More here...
  13. And yet you continue to bring Roman Catholics as "examples" of Christianity with some regularity. So by not so deep proxy, why would you point others to that false religion of Roman Catholicism full of man's ways? Why would the Lord burden you to give such cultic mystical Desert Fathers examples here? Why would you refer us to a pro RCC website that clearly has said they are not for Protestants as you did in another post, that clearly promoted Roman Catholicism with necromancy prayers to dead Mary to save souls? Is it not Jesus ALONE that one prays to, and saves souls? Why is it that Roman Catholics get a pass on their false christ throughout much of Christendom? Who, through Transubstantiation, believe he is sacrificed and killed at least weekly! How is that NOT a false christ as they feel they cannibalistically eat his real body after this man made ritual is done? Could one quote the false christ of the Jehovah's Witnesses that believe the arch angel Michael was christ prior to birth as well, without bringing Jehovah's Witnesses cultic thoughts this forum? They've got some great experiences! Could one quote us Mormon's with their false christ, who they believe to be the brother of Lucifer, without bringing Mormonism to this forum? A lot of mysticism there, I assure you!
  14. Christian folks should completely pass up on these Roman Catholic like "Desert Fathers," with it's short example from "saint Moses the Ethiopian" that was given. Along with the pope's "cannonized" Roman Catholic "saint Benedict" that was mentioned mixed in there with Jonah. Some real "Evangelicals and Catholics Together" thinking for this "Learn to Hate Judging" teaching. The "Desert Father" thinking is much akin to it's Eastern meditation cousin, something I left back in my past many years back. For a short time, there were "two" gods I was (unknowingly) serving as a babe in Christ. One, my newfound Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, (Glory Hallelujah!) and the other, the false god of eastern mysticism. Upon coming to this realization through God and His Word, I repented of it and left it far behind. When I initially saw these same worldly ways coming into the church some 20ish years ago, albeit, now under the "guise" of Christ, I was shocked. The same thing we are seeing here in this "teaching." The VERY THING God had me repent of, was now entering the church under many fashionable "christian" sounding names, while attempting to "mix in" God. There are "two" kinds of meditation. 1. With the "CLEARING" of your mind, one will find a false and temporal peace. This is the false peace of the Desert Fathers, which is akin to, and found in various Eastern meditations as well. Same things, different labels. Along with repetitive prayers and/or silence along with breathing techniques, one boarders into self hypnosis, something that God forbids. The "christ" that you meet there is a false "angel of light." (2Co 11:14) 2. God's way of meditating is by way of "USING" your mind, to think and ponder upon God and His Word He has left for us. Man's Roman Catholic liturgy with it's false christ excluded... A portion from a Brother in the Lord on "The Desert Fathers." Please consider: The Desert Fathers and the Methods They Used "Catholic priest William Shannon in his book, Seeds of Peace, explained the human dilemma as being the following: "This forgetfulness, of our oneness with God, is not just a personal experience, it is the corporate experience of humanity. Indeed, this is one way to understanding original sin. We are in God, but we don’t seem to know it. We are in paradise, but we don’t realize it." Shannon’s viewpoint defines the basic underlying worldview of the contemplative prayer movement as a whole. One can find similar quotations in practically every book written by contemplative authors. A Hindu guru or a Zen Buddhist master would offer the same explanation. This conclusion becomes completely logical when tracing the roots of contemplative prayer. Let us look at the beginnings of this practice. In the early Middle Ages, there lived a group of hermits in the wilderness areas of the Middle East. They are known to history as the Desert Fathers. They dwelt in small isolated communities for the purpose of devoting their lives completely to God without distraction. The contemplative movement traces its roots back to these monks who promoted the mantra as a prayer tool. One meditation scholar made this connection when he said: "The meditation practices and rules for living of these earliest Christian monks bear strong similarity to those of their Hindu and Buddhist renunciate brethren several kingdoms to the East … the meditative techniques they adopted for finding their God suggest either a borrowing from the East or a spontaneous rediscovery." Many of the Desert Fathers, in their zeal, were simply seeking God through trial and error. A leading contemplative prayer teacher candidly acknowledged the haphazard way the Desert Fathers acquired their practices: "It was a time of great experimentation with spiritual methods. Many different kinds of disciplines were tried, some of which are too harsh or extreme for people today. Many different methods of prayer were created and explored by them." Attempting to reach God through occult mystical practices will guarantee disaster. The Desert Fathers of Egypt were located in a particularly dangerous locale at that time to be groping around for innovative approaches to God... "...the Desert Fathers believed as long as the desire for God was sincere–anything could be utilized to reach God. If a method worked for the Hindus to reach their gods, then Christian mantras could be used to reach Jesus. -Ray Yungen More here... In conclusion, when the Lord see's the heart of "saint" Benedict and these "Desert Fathers," He sees lost men, bent on liturgical and fallacious religious works as a means to finding God. Symbolically, they're building up yet another "Tower of Babel," as the One World Religion continues to come together during these end times. They'll never find Him through these mystical Babylonian bricks coming from the religious works of man's mindset. Jeremiah 17:5-6 Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD. (6) For he shall be like the heath in the desert, and shall not see when good cometh; but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited. James 3:11-12 Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter? (12) Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh. Their only hope, as with anyone who is steeped in false religion, would be to repent, and believe on the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ as clearly defined in His Word! Jeremiah 17:7-8 Blessed is the man that trusteth in the LORD, and whose hope the LORD is. (8) For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but her leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruit. Those who promote them would do well to repent also: Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. On considering the cults, and false teachers who have departed from the faith in our day, let us warn others about them so that other "seekers" and "young Christians" may not follow their pernicious ways. (2 Peter: 2:2)
  15. With the way this particular forum is going, just thought I'd point out it's actually 2 Peter 1:21 2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.