nebula Posted April 28, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Thought I'd give this its own thread - see what happens. Ever hear of the Fibonacci spiral? It is a perfect math sequence seen in spiral shape in several objects in nature (sunflowers, pine cones, etc.). (Example of info on that here .) How did that happen? How could a perfect math sequence be found in different objects in nature from a naturalistic perspective? How is it logical for chance evolutionary processes and changes to produce this in several unrelated plants and animals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSLewis Posted April 28, 2010 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 828 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 20 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/28/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/28/1980 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Evolved to Be the most effective pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blien Posted April 28, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 346 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 3,050 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 46 Days Won: 3 Joined: 10/02/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/26/1982 Share Posted April 28, 2010 God always leaves mysteries and wonders for us to think about and discover. Just when we think we know it all, we discover something else He's created to wonder about and be in awe of His sovereignty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axxman Posted April 28, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 3,292 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/21/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted April 28, 2010 I just wanna say...those pictures are kool!!! but...I don't even know how to pronounce the title of this thread so I'll leave it you smart folks. Thanks Neb! You always have the coolest pics of Gods creation...luv it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~candice~ Posted April 28, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 955 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 11,318 Content Per Day: 1.89 Reputation: 448 Days Won: 33 Joined: 12/16/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted April 28, 2010 fib-oh-narr-chee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted April 28, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.09 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted April 28, 2010 Evolved to Be the most effective pattern. Yeah, random selection created them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted April 28, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted April 28, 2010 If we evolved then there must be naturally occurring patterns. Yes? What would cause naturally occurring patterns to occur regularly? How does chaos produce regularly occurring patterns - especially ones that are a perfect math pattern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSLewis Posted April 28, 2010 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 828 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 20 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/28/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/28/1980 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Increase the presssure and ice will do different things - it will rearrange itself to be more stable- rearranging itself to be heavier than water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted April 28, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted April 28, 2010 Matter doesn't do whatever it wants, it is governed by physical laws You know I have to take this back to the "where do physical laws" come from? I know "law" is a man-made term to describe a principle, or whatever you want to call it. But what makes it so? Note how in liquid form water molecules are "chaotic" with no definite structure and yet align themselves into a regularly occurring pattern that is, in essence, mathematically "perfect" solely on the basis of their chemistry. And where does math come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joemiller Posted April 28, 2010 Group: Junior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 108 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 66 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/06/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/31/1951 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Strong paintings executed by master artists demonstrate three important elements of design: visual technique, emotive content, and dynamic composition. Of the methods of dynamic composition, the strongest is that of the Golden Rectangle (w x 1.618w), or the root-phi rectangle (w x 1.272w), where phi=1.618, and root-phi is the square root of phi. And phi is the limit of the ratios of consecutive elements of the fibonacci sequence... example: 89/55=phi. Successful master artists have known for a long time that a work composed upon this rectangle offers the viewer the most impact. Artists consider that such paintings are "alive." Experiments have consistently shown that compositions aligning various focus elements with the rebatements, and diagonals within a golden rectangle, win many more awards, and sales of their work. This, of course, reflects the level of enjoyment that the viewers experience toward the work of the artist. Just thought I'd add a little something to the conversation. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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