Rick-Parker Posted June 5, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 4,273 Content Per Day: 4.84 Reputation: 1,855 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/17/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/03/1955 Share Posted June 5, 2010 I was reading in 2nd Samuel and a question came to mind. What was the difference between David's sin of murder and Absalom's sin of rebellion? of course, all sin is heinous in the eyes of God, and is actually directed toward Him. The difference is the following: David's sin was a sin of passion, with the murder of Uriah an effort to cover-up the sin. Absalom's sin had at it's foundation the sin of Satan himself in his rebellion against God. In other words, Absalom entered into Satan's rebellion. It is a far more heinous sin than his father David's. Danial's sin was not joined by anyone else, while Absalam's sin was joined by the majority of Israel. In other words, they became associated with his sin, which in fact, threatened the very foundation of Israel's existence. David repented immediately when his sin was found out because he was a man of God. There is no record that Absalom ever really knew God and therefor there was no repentance. Most of the Church does not see it that way, but actually would join Absalom because outwardly it looked right. That's just my take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest man Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 Sins may be different in appearance, but the penalty for unrepented sin is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lovinghim4ever Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 Sins may be different in appearance, but the penalty for unrepented sin is the same. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Parker Posted June 5, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 4,273 Content Per Day: 4.84 Reputation: 1,855 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/17/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/03/1955 Author Share Posted June 5, 2010 Absolutely. But the consequences are different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlad Posted June 5, 2010 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 470 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 171 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/02/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/07/1946 Share Posted June 5, 2010 Yes, the consequences may be different and in the Russian Orthodox Church there is a concept of minor sin (prigresheniye). That is usually some kind of rude behavior even though repentance is necessary in such cases as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonaWithHumility Posted June 5, 2010 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 111 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1951 Share Posted June 5, 2010 Catholics have Cardinal Sin and Venial Sin. Q. What is the difference between a mortal sin and a venial sin? A. For a sin to be mortal, three conditions must exist at the same time. 1. It must be of a grave matter; 2. It must be committed with full knowledge that it is a mortal sin; 3. It must be committed with full consent. [Full consent means to do it "voluntarily."] Q. Can you provide me with a list of possible mortal sins? A. Abortion, Anger, Adulterers, Amending the words of the Holy Bible, Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, (Eternal sin) Carousing, Cowards, Defrauders, Dissensions, Disrespect towards parents, Drunkenness, Enmities, Envy, Factions, Faithless, False witness (liars) Fornicators, Greed, Holy Communion received while in a state of mortal sin, Idolatry, Impurity, Jealousy, Licentiousness, Love and practice falsehoods, Male prostitution, Murderers, Polluted, Quarrelling, Sodomites, Sorcery, Strife, Thieves (steal/robbers). Q. What is a venial sin? A. The Catechism of the Catholic Church defines a venial sin as follows: "Venial sin allows charity to subsist, even though it offends and wounds it." (To "subsist" means to "exist.") (C.C.C. # 1855) "Venial sin constitutes a moral disorder that is reparable by charity, which it allows to subsist in us." (C.C.C. # 1875) "One commits venial sin when, in a less serious matter, he does not observe the standard prescribed by the moral law,or when he disobeys the moral law in a grave matter, but without full knowledge or without complete consent." (C.C.C. #. 1862) "Venial sin weakens charity; it manifests a disordered affection for created goods; it impedes the soul's progress in the exercise of the virtues and the practice of the moral good; it merits temporal punishment. Deliberate and unrepented venial sin disposes us little by little to commit mortal sin. However venial sin does not set us in direct opposition to the will and friendship of God; it does not break the covenant with God. With God's grace it is humanly reparable. 'Venial sin does not deprive the sinner of sanctifying grace, friendship with God, charity, and consequently eternal happiness.'" (C.C.C. # 1863) ____________________ Apparently, venial sin is lots less offensive to God than Mortal sin, but can lead to mortal sin. I don't know how relevant this is to the original post, but it has always fascinated me. That you can weigh the effect of your sin, that is. Also, the list of mortal sins is quite impressive. http://www.catholicdoors.com/faq/qu06.htm#answer4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlelambseativy Posted June 6, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 230 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,941 Content Per Day: 0.95 Reputation: 2,003 Days Won: 14 Joined: 02/08/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted June 6, 2010 True, but the commonality of all of them is 'sin'. In God's eyes sin is sin, unlike the in the muslim faith sin is not weighed against good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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