Matthitjah Posted June 18, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1,285 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 17,917 Content Per Day: 2.27 Reputation: 355 Days Won: 19 Joined: 10/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted June 18, 2010 Grace to you, I know alot of Americans are praying and asking the Lord to help us with this oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. We're asking Him to be merciful and to help us to cap this mess and to get it cleaned up. My question is this. What if He is saying, No? Has this happened in the Bible? What are the ramifications of that answer? peace, dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted June 18, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted June 18, 2010 In the written prayer request I posted about this in the Prayer Forum, I didn't copy the the first part of the memo because not all of us agree on the prophetic. But before the written prayer, the author wrote this: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Intercession about the BP Oil Spill June 5th, 2010 I have seen little coming from prophetic and intercessory sectors of the Body of Christ about the BP oil spill in the Gulf. I hope it is not indicative of a decline into the conditions depicted in Isaiah 56:10. It is my conviction that churches and Christians throughout America are obligated to intercede about the situation. Without God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yod Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Isaiah 56 1 This is what the LORD says: "Maintain justice and do what is right, for my salvation is close at hand and my righteousness will soon be revealed. 2 Blessed is the man who does this, the man who holds it fast, who keeps the Sabbath without desecrating it, and keeps his hand from doing any evil." 3 Let no foreigner who has bound himself to the LORD say, "The LORD will surely exclude me from his people." And let not any eunuch complain, "I am only a dry tree." 4 For this is what the LORD says: "To the eunuchs who keep my Sabbaths, who choose what pleases me and hold fast to my covenant- 5 to them I will give within my temple and its walls a memorial and a name better than sons and daughters; I will give them an everlasting name that will not be cut off. 6 And foreigners who bind themselves to the LORD to serve him, to love the name of the LORD, and to worship him, all who keep the Sabbath without desecrating it and who hold fast to my covenant- 7 these I will bring to my holy mountain and give them joy in my house of prayer. Their burnt offerings and sacrifices will be accepted on my altar; for my house will be called a house of prayer for all nations." 8 The Sovereign LORD declares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthitjah Posted June 18, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1,285 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 17,917 Content Per Day: 2.27 Reputation: 355 Days Won: 19 Joined: 10/01/2002 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 18, 2010 Okay, But there is the example of the Lord saying He wouldn't hear the prayers of His people anymore because Judgment was upon them and He would no longer stay His hand. However, He did retain a remnant. We see the children in Israel going out to captivity and among them are people like Daniel. The Lord Loved him and spared him for a mightier purpose.However, when Judgment struck, the righteous and the unrighteosu were both caught up in it. I didn't say that God had anything at all to do with the oil spill. I'm asking what the ramifications are and if there is Biblical example for God saying, No. I the times that He said, No, what was happening? peace, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted June 18, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted June 18, 2010 I didn't say that God had anything at all to do with the oil spill. I'm asking what the ramifications are and if there is Biblical example for God saying, No. I the times that He said, No, what was happening? Off the top of my head - the people were in deep sin. I believe we've been living off of borrowed time for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthitjah Posted June 18, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1,285 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 17,917 Content Per Day: 2.27 Reputation: 355 Days Won: 19 Joined: 10/01/2002 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 18, 2010 Didn't God promise Abraham that he would save Sodom and Gomorrah for the sake of a very few? Perhaps this disaster has nothing to do with God and occured because of the greed of man...through their free will following their own greed. In the end, none of us know if this is of God or not. As to our prayers..God hears us but in the end will do as he wills. Abraham bargained Him down to ten righteous and the Lord stated that he wouldn't destroy the place for the sake of ten. However they must not have found ten. There was only one who escaped and that man was Lot. The place was Judged. Does God always Judge by raining sulfur and brimstone down from heaven? What happened when He Judged Israel? Didn't the land become desolate? Peace, dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yod Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 The Lord warned Israel many times about judgment by allowing catastrophes. Their response was the deciding factor is allowing them to be destroyed by Sennacharib The final nail in their coffin is recorded in Isaiah 9 8 The Lord has sent a message against Jacob; it will fall on Israel. 9 All the people will know it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted June 18, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Does verse 10 sound vaguely familiar to anyone? That was what Chuck Shumer said at the dedication of the cornerstone for the new Freedom Tower placed where the WTC used to be....which spontaneously cracked and became unusable, btw Didn't know about the cornerstone. But yep, I never forgot that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest man Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Just because this happened near the United States, it doesn't automatically mean God is passing judgment on this country. BP is a worldwide supplier. The oil leak is in the Gulf of Mexico, but there are ocean currents that could carry that oil around the world. Maybe God is passing judgment on the world as a whole. Or maybe He's going after BP. Or maybe it was just an unfortunate accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~candice~ Posted June 18, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 955 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 11,318 Content Per Day: 1.89 Reputation: 448 Days Won: 33 Joined: 12/16/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted June 18, 2010 Don't forget the things God was willing to do to this earth just prior to the Exodus, it's not always pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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