SUPER power TERRORISTS shed innocent blood!

[AmariYah]

So far more than 800 American soldiers have died in Bush Administrations ongoing war in Iraq. There is also an estimated 10,000+ Iraqi's killed as well, mostly innocent civilians. And many thousands crippled, maimed and permanently disfigured. WHY? Because, Bush & co. said, Saddam Hussein posed a "mortal threat" that we had to "pre-empt" before "mushroom clouds" rose over our country. Well no matter how you try to hash and re-hash the statements of our countries leaders, it is now clear beyond the shadow of a doubt that we were flat out intentionally lied to! (The many many proofs that he did lie several times have been provided in a couple of different threads here at WorthyBoards. Sorry these cannot all be written off as flawed intelligence- that is a very weak argument for a country that spends HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS on intel and one that can use satellites to view even the finest details on precise locations world wide.)

And the end result of these series of lies is that many thousands have needlessly died and been permanently handicapped.

Now the Bush Administrations chief weapons inspector, David Kay, says there were no such WMD, and the Army's own War College says the invasion "was a war-of-choice" not of necessity. It is now obvious that our forked tongue leaders did in fact know this all along. All of the lies and double talk was merely a smoke-screen to divert the public's attention from the awful truth.

Below are the exact words the Bush Administration used to persuade us to approve of the shedding of innocent blood;

George Bush: "There is no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to posess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."

Dick Cheney: "There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction."

Donald Rumsfeld: "We know where they (WMD) are."

Colin Powell: "Leaving Saddam Hussein in posession of weapons of mass destruction for a few more months or years is not an option."

(I know, I know the new story is that Saddam quickly exported all of these WMD to surrounding countries. Remember the precise and exacting satellite imaging that we were talking about? If this were true we would most certainly have known about it while it was happening. Also, you can be sure that we have undercover operatives in all of the surrounding countries as well as in Iraq before the war.)

So thanks to Pres. Bush and his followers we as a country have lowered ourselves to Saddam's own abysmal status of MASS MURDERER. Although Bush and his cronies may see these many thousands of people merely as pawns and "collateral damage", their blood is on his hands! Now it is certain that Pres. George W. Bush and his friends are in fact the very same kind of people as Saddam Hussein. So where will this war regeim go next???

Yet to ad insult to injury, many Americans (And Christians) actually bought the Bush Administrations lies hook, line and sinker, and they not only applaud his evil actions and brutal unnecessary bloodshed, but they claim that he was led by God. Have we as a country and a people grown so cold hearted, shallow minded and petty in our culture, that we cheer at the shedding of innocent blood. And we try to then justify it as if the end justifies the means

[Guest yod]

There is also an estimated 10,000+ Iraqi's killed as well, mostly innocent civilians.

baloney

it is now clear beyond the shadow of a doubt that we were flat out intentionally lied to!

and cheese food.

You are intentionally lying when you say that. There is absolutely no proof that Bush did anything but act on the accepted intelligence of the day. Every nation in the world believed Saddam had WMDs. Why?

Because he did! You are asking the wrong question...which is; where are they now?

If you disagree with Bush's leadership then vote him out of office. I trust the American people will make the right decision about who is lying.

Your over-the-top rhetoric will only help ensure his re-election, btw.

[Ovedya]

Right on, brutha' yod!

Over half the civilized world agreed that Saddam had WMD's. All the intelligence pointed to it for the last 10 years. Did the Clinton administration do anything about it? No one seems to want to talk about that. so shhhhhhh....

How come no one's ever figured out how foolish it would have been for the bush administration to lie about something like this in the first place. If it was a lie, and Bush knew it was a lie, he would have known in advance that they wouldn't find anything! One would logically suspect that, if anything, Bush would have tried to order someone to plant a few WMD's around Iraq to prove that he was right. Well, no one's planted anything, so obviously Bush believed that Saddam had them. As did the rest of the world - including, I might add, John Kerry.

[Guest yod]

Yeah G-man.

Do you find that it doesn't take a whole lot of intelligence to count several thousand dead Kurds?

[Steff]

There is also an estimated 10,000+ Iraqi's killed as well, mostly innocent civilians.

Actually Yod that is a pretty accurate number that has been well documented. It's actually closer to 14,000

[dgolvach]

Hussain killed and starved more than that yearly and would of continued. But thats not as bad I guess. Isn't it a shame that those two peace loving gentle and kind sons of his are not gone get there chance serve the people of Iraq as their Father's successors? Im sure they would have been real teddy bears. Darn that evil President Bush. Think of all those hundreds of thousands of lives that Saddam and company are not going to get to snuff out anymore. If you think you live in a Country run by TERRORISTs and you are free to leave, why stay? Don't be part of a TERRORIST STATE.

[Guest yod]

14,000 enemies are gone?

Good!

it's the "mostly innocent civilians" part that I doubt

[dgolvach]

LOOK AT WHAT THE EVIL SUPERPOWER TERRORISTS PUT AN END TO

Mass Graves of Iraq: Uncovering Atrocities

Identifying the remains of over one million missing Iraqis will bring comfort to their families, promote reconciliation, and help develop a new system of justice in Iraq. Some 50 mass graves containing hundreds of thousands of bodies have been identified. The Iraqi Human Rights Ministry is spearheading efforts to identify remains in the graves and collect evidence for future prosecutions. There is another effort to create a bureau of missing persons to centralize information on those killed under Saddam Hussein's regime. Department of State, Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labor.

CPA, Iraqis Develop Plan

To Deal with Mass Graves

U.S. State Department

The discovery of mass graves in Iraq graphically testifies to the brutality of Saddam Hussein's regime and the challenges of building a more pluralistic and law-based state. Both the dead and the living are victims of the crimes that are buried in these graves. We cannot bring back the hundreds of thousands of missing Iraqis. However, identification of as many bodies as possible and accountability for the circumstances of their deaths will enable them to move forward to build a society that respects and protects fundamental human rights and dignity.

"Iraqi citizens must have both eyes open: one looking to the future, and the other looking to the past."

Dr. Rafid al-Husseini, President of the Society for the Preservation of Mass Graves

Mass graves in Iraq are characterized as unmarked sites containing at least six bodies. Some can be identified by mounds of earth piled above the ground or as deep pits that appear to have been filled. Some older graves are more difficult to identify, having been covered by vegetation and debris over time. Sites have been discovered in all regions of the country and contain members of every major religious group as well as foreign nationals, including Kuwaitis and Saudis. Over 250 sites have been reported, of which approximately 40 have been confirmed to date. Over one million Iraqis are believed to be missing in Iraq as a result of executions, wars and defections, of whom hundreds of thousands are thought to be in mass graves.

Most of the graves discovered to date correspond to one of five major atrocities perpetrated by the regime.

The 1983 attack against Kurdish citizens belonging to the Barzani tribe, 8,000 of whom were rounded up by the regime in northern Iraq and executed in deserts at great distances from their homes.

The 1988 Anfal campaign, during which as many as 182,000 people disappeared. Most of the men were separated from their families and were executed in deserts in the west and southwest of Iraq. The remains of some of their wives and children have also been found in mass graves.

Chemical attacks against Kurdish villages from 1986 to 1988, including the Halabja attack, when the Iraqi Air Force dropped sarin, VX and tabun chemical agents on the civilian population, killing 5,000 people immediately and causing long-term medical problems, related deaths, and birth defects among the progeny of thousands more.

The 1991 massacre of Iraqi Shi'a Muslims after the Shi'a uprising at the end of the Gulf war, in which tens of thousands of soldiers and civilians in such regions as Basra and Al-Hillah were killed.

The 1991 Kurdish massacre, which targeted civilians and soldiers who fought for autonomy in northern Iraq after the Gulf war.

Opponents and critics of the regime from all religious and ethnic groups were also executed and buried in mass graves. Many of these are believed to be located at or near prisons and former military establishments.

These crimes have acquired a measure of notoriety and salience. Thousands of other Iraqis, including Marsh Arabs, Shi'a Muslims in the 1970s and 1980s, and students involved in uprisings in Najaf in 1999 may also be lying in mass graves in Iraq.

Strategic Plan

The Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA), in cooperation with the interim Iraqi Human Rights Ministry, is implementing a program to identify remains in the graves and collect evidence of past atrocities for future prosecutions. These objectives address the needs of grieving families and the demands of accountability and justice. The program was developed in consultation with Iraqi specialists, international human rights groups, and renowned forensic experts.

Torture Methods in Iraq

Medical experimentation

Beatings

Crucifixion

Hammering nails into the fingers and hands

Amputating the penis or breasts with an electric carving knife

Spraying insecticides into a victim

[Guest yod]

Beatings

Crucifixion

Hammering nails into the fingers and hands

Amputating the penis or breasts with an electric carving knife

Spraying insecticides into a victim

[dgolvach]

Yod ..it makes me sick as well. Oh Well...I guess we choose what we will be sad about. Some will cry all day about the prison pantie torture at Abu-Ghraib and not shed a tear over the list of things Saddam did. Lets see... Hmmmmm. Which is worse? Panties on the head or bees on your child? What are all those poor bees going to do now that the Evil Americans have taken down Hussain and friends.