Is believing God word of faith?

[Believer112]

The problem with word of faith is what you are believing God for? Christianity and our relationship with God is not simple about getting more money and possessions. In fact the book of Luke states that riches are a curse not a blessing. James warns us not to ask because of our selfish desires.

Also what about passages that teach we are to suffer like Jesus suffered (I Peter 2:18ff). The early church was a suffering church. A despised church. A poor people, but God was pleased with them. The promises of God are that He will be there in the storm, not that He will remove all storms.

www.studyyourbibleonline.com

Is it wrong to ask God for health? to prosper? New car? I believe asking God for money is not a bad thing. It's what you do with it after you get it is a problem. God knows our hearts. I believe for extra money all the time so I can be a blessing to someone else. Is God loving.

Matthew 7:11

If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask Him!

[OneLight]

The problem with word of faith is what you are believing God for? Christianity and our relationship with God is not simple about getting more money and possessions. In fact the book of Luke states that riches are a curse not a blessing. James warns us not to ask because of our selfish desires.

Also what about passages that teach we are to suffer like Jesus suffered (I Peter 2:18ff). The early church was a suffering church. A despised church. A poor people, but God was pleased with them. The promises of God are that He will be there in the storm, not that He will remove all storms.

www.studyyourbibleonline.com

Is it wrong to ask God for health? to prosper? New car? I believe asking God for money is not a bad thing. It's what you do with it after you get it is a problem. God knows our hearts. I believe for extra money all the time so I can be a blessing to someone else. Is God loving.

Matthew 7:11

If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask Him!

This verse has nothing to do with prosperity teaching, but how to treat others. Lets look at the whole teaching:

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[Guest man]

Mark 12

41 Now Jesus sat opposite the treasury and saw how the people put money into the treasury. And many who were rich put in much.

42 Then one poor widow came and threw in two mites, which make a quadrans.

43 So He called His disciples to Himself and said to them,

[Believer112]

I prayed for a couple of people with cancer. There's a lot of that these days???? I never based there healing on their faith. I just say God love's you can I pray for you. So it's really my faith that I use. Because one lady wasn't a christian. But i think she was spiritual if you know what I mean.Are they healed? I know they are in the spiritual realm Mt 18:19, Jn 14:14, if it doesn't in the physical realm only God knows like you said. gtg God Bless ps Could you get your friend off my back AyinJade Thank You

So why is it when the physical healing doesn't happen, faith healers weasel out by claiming a) the person didn't have enough faith, b) the healing took place spiritually or c) both?

Paul please don't put me in the category of a FH Weasel. I do what I do because I genuinely love others. Have you prayed for someone before? Quit asking me why it don't work! I'm not God. But I do know it manifests in the physical because my brother in law was healed.

[Believer112]

The problem with word of faith is what you are believing God for? Christianity and our relationship with God is not simple about getting more money and possessions. In fact the book of Luke states that riches are a curse not a blessing. James warns us not to ask because of our selfish desires.

Also what about passages that teach we are to suffer like Jesus suffered (I Peter 2:18ff). The early church was a suffering church. A despised church. A poor people, but God was pleased with them. The promises of God are that He will be there in the storm, not that He will remove all storms.

www.studyyourbibleonline.com

Is it wrong to ask God for health? to prosper? New car? I believe asking God for money is not a bad thing. It's what you do with it after you get it is a problem. God knows our hearts. I believe for extra money all the time so I can be a blessing to someone else. Is God loving.

Matthew 7:11

If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask Him!

This verse has nothing to do with prosperity teaching, but how to treat others. Lets look at the whole teaching:

7 "Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. 9 Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent? 11 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask Him! 12 Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.

Brother, God is not our sugar daddy ready to give us everything we want just for the asking. You want to increase, learn the lesson below!

Matthew 25:14-30

The Parable of the Talents

For the kingdom of heaven is like a man traveling to a far country, who called his own servants and delivered his goods to them. And to one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one, to each according to his own ability; and immediately he went on a journey. Then he who had received the five talents went and traded with them, and made another five talents. And likewise he who had received two gained two more also. But he who had received one went and dug in the ground, and hid his lord's money. After a long time the lord of those servants came and settled accounts with them.

So he who had received five talents came and brought five other talents, saying, 'Lord, you delivered to me five talents; look, I have gained five more talents besides them.' His lord said to him, 'Well done, good and faithful servant; you were faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things. Enter into the joy of your lord.' He also who had received two talents came and said, 'Lord, you delivered to me two talents; look, I have gained two more talents besides them.' His lord said to him, 'Well done, good and faithful servant; you have been faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things. Enter into the joy of your lord.'

Then he who had received the one talent came and said, 'Lord, I knew you to be a hard man, reaping where you have not sown, and gathering where you have not scattered seed. And I was afraid, and went and hid your talent in the ground. Look, there you have what is yours.'

But his lord answered and said to him, 'You wicked and lazy servant, you knew that I reap where I have not sown, and gather where I have not scattered seed. So you ought to have deposited my money with the bankers, and at my coming I would have received back my own with interest. So take the talent from him, and give it to him who has ten talents.

'For to everyone who has, more will be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away. 30 And cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'

The concept is to do the best with what you have and He will give the increase, when He is ready to.

What is you guys hang up for asking God for something. Mathew 7-11 is about prayer. What do you mean about prosperity teaching? Do you chastise your kids when they ask you something? Do you see God as Abba Father.

David Guzik's Commentaries

on the Bible

B. More instructions for prayer.

1. (7-8) Jesus invites us to keep on asking, seeking and knocking.

"Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened."

a. Ask . . . seek . . . knock: We see a progressive intensity, going from ask to seek to knock. Jesus tells us to have intensity and passion in prayer.

b. Ask and it will be given to you: God promises an answer to the one who diligently seeks Him. Many of our dispassionate prayers are not answered for good reason, because it is almost as if we ask God to care about something we care little or nothing about.

i. God values persistence and passion in prayer because they show that we share His heart. It shows that we care about the things He cares about.

2. (9-11) Jesus illustrates the giving nature of God.

"Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent? If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask Him!"

a. Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? Jesus makes it clear that God doesn't have to be persuaded or appeased in prayer. He wants to give us not just bread, but even more than what we ask for.

i. Thankfully, the times we ask for something as bad as a serpent without knowing, like a loving parent God often mercifully spares us the just penalty of our ignorance.

b. If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven: It is blasphemous to deny God's answer to the seeking heart. We imply that God is worse than even an evil man is.

C. Conclusion of the sermon: make a choice.

1. (12) A summation of Jesus' ethical teaching regarding our treatment of others: the golden rule.

"Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets."

a. Whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them: The negative way of stating this command was known long before Jesus. It had long been said, "you should not do to your neighbor what you would not want him to do to you." But it is a large leap for Jesus to put it in the positive, to say that we should do unto others what we want them to do unto us.

i. In so doing, Jesus makes the command much broader. It is the difference between not breaking traffic laws and doing something positive like helping a stranded motorist.

ii. This especially applies to Christian fellowship. If we would experience love and have people reach out to us, we must love and reach out to others.

Edited September 13, 2010 by Believer112

[Believer112]

I prayed for a couple of people with cancer. There's a lot of that these days???? I never based there healing on their faith. I just say God love's you can I pray for you. So it's really my faith that I use. Because one lady wasn't a christian. But i think she was spiritual if you know what I mean.Are they healed? I know they are in the spiritual realm Mt 18:19, Jn 14:14, if it doesn't in the physical realm only God knows like you said. gtg God Bless ps Could you get your friend off my back AyinJade Thank You

So why is it when the physical healing doesn't happen, faith healers weasel out by claiming a) the person didn't have enough faith, b) the healing took place spiritually or c) both?

Paul please don't put me in the category of a FH Weasel. I do what I do because I genuinely love others. Have you prayed for someone before? Quit asking me why it don't work! I'm not God. But I do know it manifests in the physical because my brother in law was healed.

Honesty compels you to address those instances when prayer doesn't grant you the answer you want. How do you handle those times?

I trust in God. I'm still believing that my sister in law in Jaurez Mexico lives from cancer. I prayed for her. But whatever happens I will still love God.

[Rick-Parker]

The problem with word of faith is what you are believing God for? Christianity and our relationship with God is not simple about getting more money and possessions. In fact the book of Luke states that riches are a curse not a blessing. James warns us not to ask because of our selfish desires.

Also what about passages that teach we are to suffer like Jesus suffered (I Peter 2:18ff). The early church was a suffering church. A despised church. A poor people, but God was pleased with them. The promises of God are that He will be there in the storm, not that He will remove all storms.

www.studyyourbibleonline.com

Is it wrong to ask God for health? to prosper? New car? I believe asking God for money is not a bad thing. It's what you do with it after you get it is a problem. God knows our hearts. I believe for extra money all the time so I can be a blessing to someone else. Is God loving.

Matthew 7:11

If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask Him!

This verse has nothing to do with prosperity teaching, but how to treat others. Lets look at the whole teaching:

7 "Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. 9 Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent? 11 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask Him! 12 Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.

Brother, God is not our sugar daddy ready to give us everything we want just for the asking. You want to increase, learn the lesson below!

Matthew 25:14-30

The Parable of the Talents

For the kingdom of heaven is like a man traveling to a far country, who called his own servants and delivered his goods to them. And to one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one, to each according to his own ability; and immediately he went on a journey. Then he who had received the five talents went and traded with them, and made another five talents. And likewise he who had received two gained two more also. But he who had received one went and dug in the ground, and hid his lord's money. After a long time the lord of those servants came and settled accounts with them.

So he who had received five talents came and brought five other talents, saying, 'Lord, you delivered to me five talents; look, I have gained five more talents besides them.' His lord said to him, 'Well done, good and faithful servant; you were faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things. Enter into the joy of your lord.' He also who had received two talents came and said, 'Lord, you delivered to me two talents; look, I have gained two more talents besides them.' His lord said to him, 'Well done, good and faithful servant; you have been faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things. Enter into the joy of your lord.'

Then he who had received the one talent came and said, 'Lord, I knew you to be a hard man, reaping where you have not sown, and gathering where you have not scattered seed. And I was afraid, and went and hid your talent in the ground. Look, there you have what is yours.'

But his lord answered and said to him, 'You wicked and lazy servant, you knew that I reap where I have not sown, and gather where I have not scattered seed. So you ought to have deposited my money with the bankers, and at my coming I would have received back my own with interest. So take the talent from him, and give it to him who has ten talents.

'For to everyone who has, more will be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away. 30 And cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'

The concept is to do the best with what you have and He will give the increase, when He is ready to.

What is you guys hang up for asking God for something. Mathew 7-11 is about prayer. What do you mean about prosperity teaching? Do you chastise your kids when they ask you something? Do you see God as Abba Father.

David Guzik's Commentaries

on the Bible

B. More instructions for prayer.

1. (7-8) Jesus invites us to keep on asking, seeking and knocking.

"Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened."

a. Ask . . . seek . . . knock: We see a progressive intensity, going from ask to seek to knock. Jesus tells us to have intensity and passion in prayer.

b. Ask and it will be given to you: God promises an answer to the one who diligently seeks Him. Many of our dispassionate prayers are not answered for good reason, because it is almost as if we ask God to care about something we care little or nothing about.

i. God values persistence and passion in prayer because they show that we share His heart. It shows that we care about the things He cares about.

2. (9-11) Jesus illustrates the giving nature of God.

"Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent? If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask Him!"

a. Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? Jesus makes it clear that God doesn't have to be persuaded or appeased in prayer. He wants to give us not just bread, but even more than what we ask for.

i. Thankfully, the times we ask for something as bad as a serpent without knowing, like a loving parent God often mercifully spares us the just penalty of our ignorance.

b. If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven: It is blasphemous to deny God's answer to the seeking heart. We imply that God is worse than even an evil man is.

C. Conclusion of the sermon: make a choice.

1. (12) A summation of Jesus' ethical teaching regarding our treatment of others: the golden rule.

"Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets."

a. Whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them: The negative way of stating this command was known long before Jesus. It had long been said, "you should not do to your neighbor what you would not want him to do to you." But it is a large leap for Jesus to put it in the positive, to say that we should do unto others what we want them to do unto us.

i. In so doing, Jesus makes the command much broader. It is the difference between not breaking traffic laws and doing something positive like helping a stranded motorist.

ii. This especially applies to Christian fellowship. If we would experience love and have people reach out to us, we must love and reach out to others.

I don't think anyone here has a problem with asking God for "things." The thing, for me, with the WOF movement is the "name it and claim it" attitude that God owes us something, and that if we say that God has promised certain prosperity to us that we have the power to make Him give it to us in the form that we want at the moment we want it. And if we don't get what we want, we are somehow at fault, that our faith is insufficient. And people like J.O. never speak of a life of obedience, never speak of the consequences of sin, never speak of the path to salvation. They only speak of what God is going to do for us, not what we are to do as Christians. They only say what tickles the ear.

[Believer112]

Doing Good

"Doing Good" is a topical sermon by Mark Hollingsworth.

John 5:28-29; Acts 10:38

Introduction: Most everyone I know has no problem with this. They want to do good. At least they say they do. I could bring up a project of a needy family or missionary and most would respond if they could. Our heart goes out to those inhabitants of various third world countries where they are starving and dying.

But the "doing good" referred to in these passages is not talking about social concerns. It is not instructing us to seek out and help those who are in need physically, though the Bible does teach that too. There is another application for us here that we must not miss. Notice how the Bible teaches us to do good:

I. Doing Good by Salvation. (John 5:28-29)

John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

John 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Without the illumination of the Holy Spirit a person could get a wrong message or teaching out of these two verses. It is not talking about the people who have done good deeds or who have sent a "care package" or helped feed the children in Africa. That is not the message here. It is talking about doing righteousness.

The subject here is the resurrection. Jesus is teaching about the resurrection of the saints. He said, "The time is coming when the graves shall open and the people shall come forth; they that have "DONE GOOD" unto the resurrection of life."

This are not people who have done good deeds. If that were the case than a person enter the resurrection of life (heaven) without being saved. These are people who have been saved...people who have dealt with their sin problem by accepting Christ and His righteousness and and are, therefore, righteous themselves.

• The first "Do Good" means you must be Saved.1. Romans 3:12, "There is none that doeth good."
  2. You can't save yourself. Titus 3:5, "Not by works of righteousness (good works) which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us...."
  3. "It is finished," John 19:30 is what Jesus said on the cross. Salvation was finalized with Him on the Cross.
  
  Jesus Paid It All
  Jesus paid it all,
  All to Him I owe.
  Sin hath left a crimson stain,
  He washed it white as snow."
• Salvation is Essential.You will not be able to properly do good in the two other ways without getting saved first.
  
  1. Your first purpose in life is to get saved.
  2. Verse 29 is speaking of two kinds of people who have died and will be resurrected.
  First are those who have done good in relation to righteousness therefore are saved.
  The second are those who have done evil in relation to righteousness and are unsaved.
  3. Which kind of person are you?
  4. Have you done good in this way?
  5. Have you been saved?
• Salvation brings Resurrection.
  Notice what happens after the resurrection of life:
  1. There is Resurrection of life for the saved.
  2. There is Resurrection of damnation for the unsaved.
• The Decision to "Do Good" (Accept His Righteousness) is yours.1. Some say I'll take my chances.
  2. Some say I'm going to wait a while.
  3. The Bible says don't put it off for salvation through Christ is the only entrance to eternal life in heaven.
  4. Don't make the mistake of putting it off until it's too late.
  
  In this verse we see where Jesus went about "Doing Good." Does that mean that Jesus had to get saved? No, it means He went about saving people.
  
  
  • So we are to seek to get others saved.1. Luke 19:10, "For the Son of Man is come to seek and to save that which was lost."
    2. "Seek and Save" is the "doing good" that we are to emulate.
  • Are we doing good in this area?
  • If not we are committing sin.1. James 4:17, "He that knoweth to do good and doeth it not, to him it is sin."
    2. "Do Good" here means to get others saved.
  • Soulwinning is a command.If we disobey this command, we may stop the supply of God's blessings to our lives.

  III. Doing Good by Serving. (Acts 10:38)The latter part of this verse says, "and healing all who were oppressed of the devil."

  [*]So we are to do good with Godly concern and care.1. Jesus healed the sick.

  2. He made the blind eyes see.

  3. He fed the multitudes.

  4. On and on, he did many miracles.

  5. John 14:12 says, "Greater works than these shall he (the believer) do."How do we accomplish this?[*]You must bathe yourself in the Bible.1. Jesus always healed with the Word. Psalm 107:20, "He sent His Word and healed them and delivered them from their destruction."

  2. It wasn't magic...it was His Word.

  3. You can't heal anyone yourself...you don't have the power to solve mental or physical or spiritual problems. But the Word of God has the power. Do you know the Word? Can you apply the healing balm to a sick person?[*]You must Pray.1. Private prayer. How much time do you spend in prayer? If an emergency arose, could you get right into heaven with your prayers? Do you have access to the power of God? If you haven't been praying, you don't. If you are not "prayed up" it will take time to confess your sin first and then get to the heart of God.

  2. Intercessory prayer. Luke 22:32, "But I have prayed for these, that thy faith fail not...."[*]You must live a Godly Life.1. We must be immune to the disease ourselves if we expect to help the sick.

  2. Have you ever seen a discouraged person help another discouraged person? No one gets well that way.

  3. You wouldn't go to a dentist who has a mouth full of decaying teeth, would you?

  4. It would be foolish to take cold medicine and stand out in the freezing cold rain all day, wouldn't it?

  5. You will have to live a Godly life and stay in the Bible and be prayed up, else you will be of no use in helping those who come to our door pleading for help.

  Conclusion: Are you doing good? Maybe you are doing good in life financially or physically or in other ways, but are you really doing good? I'm not asking are you doing great things in the world. I'm not even asking if you are good personally. I'm asking are you doing good Biblically. Are you doing good in Christ? Are you doing good with God's plan for your life? Are you doing good for eternity?

[ayin jade]

I agree Onelight ...

For over 16 months, my family and I have experienced a horrible and devastating neuromuscular disease that took my brother's life last week. I prayed each day - several times a day for his healing. There were prayer groups, healing services, prayer chains and literally thousands of friends and acquaintances who prayed faithfully for him. As the months passed - we saw the progression of this disease and prayed for his freedom from pain and for his peace. He was an amazing Christian and knew that God would take care of him. As he lay dying, one of my children visited him. This adult child is a brilliant individual who does not have a close relationship with God. As he watched my brother's once vital body lay wasted and frail by this disease, he wept. Later that night as we sat together and talked, he sobbed and I prayed for my brother and for this child of mine. I have new faith that he will give his life to Christ - soon. God did not fail my brother - He brought him and his family closer to God and each other. My brother did not die because his faith was weak ... he was able to face his death because his faith was strong. There were so many miracles surrounding this illness - we learned that God does bring peace and mercy. We found comfort in 'everyday' miracles - a smile, an "I love you", a day that could be described as 'good'. God was there every step of the process - I pray each day that He will now heal the grief of loss. I know that He has healed our loved one and that he is with God now. So, Onelight - I agree with you completely. Blessings

Im sorry for your loss, even though you know his destination. Prayers for comfort for your family and thanksgiving for the time you had with him.

[ayin jade]

The commentary and bible study you posted are not the words of God, and promote a false doctrine.