The "ONENESS" Pentecostal Doctrine

[WISDOM]

Excuse me, but I think your going a bit overboard with the doctrines of demons stuff.

[Guest okiejack]

Interesting discussion. Here is my thought on the subject in the form of a question.

If I don't accept the trinity idea and instead believe that Jesus, GOD, and the Holy Spirit are all the same Spirit? Am I condemned to the second death?

[byHisGrace]

If you cling to, trust in, rely on Jesus Christ and His shed blood, then you are a Christian-no matter what label you put on yourselves.  None of us have complete knowledge that we are all correct in the side issues of doctrine we believe.

[godrulz]

Some counter-cult experts consider "Oneness" (UPC) a cult while others see it as Christian with heretical beliefs and practices. Is it theoretically possible to be a Catholic and born again believing in the Trinity and Christ, but also the pope and Mary? Is it possible to strongly believe in the Deity of Christ (essential) and love and obey Him, while rejecting the Trinity (?non-essential to have perfect understanding) for modalism (Sabellianism) sincerely believing that position is biblical and not pagan? I think so. God honors faith, not theological excellence. I believe correct doctrine is very important, especially the doctrine of God and Christ. God looks more at the heart than the head and will lead people to a more accurate understanding of truth.

I am Trinitarian and Pentecostal. Our denomination (Canadian equivalent of the Assemblies of God U.S.) once drifted to "oneness" in its early years of revival. I doubt all these men and women of God went to hell because they were wrestling with Scriptural revelation. Through study and prayer, the denomination rightly returned to Trinitarianism.

Yes, "oneness" is divisive and often legalistic with sectarian control at times, but the ones I've talked to are regenerated believers and passionate for God (Jesus). I would wish they would use their zeal and passion for the Deity of Christ to reach J.W.'s and Mormons rather than trying to convert us already - believers. I would pray that they would experience freedom rather than legalism. I would wish they would leave their church for a more biblical group. But I do not presume to assign destiny (heaven/hell) based on rejecting the Trinity when they affirm and embrace the Deity of Christ (minimum for salvation= thief on cross did not affirm creeds) and the need to repent, receive Christ, and obey Him. Many of them also seem to be more full of the Spirit than the average Pentecostal, desire holiness, and preach their Gospel faithfully (this does not condone or negate their other glaring problems that need renouncing).