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Virgin Mary--Whose Mother is She?

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racer...why the continuing debate about Mary?

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I believe you are being too literal here! You mean to tell me, that you honestly cannot hear what Munari is saying in his posts?... He is not saying that Mary is literally God's mother... He is saying from the standpoint of Jesus being her son and the fact that Jesus is God, thus Mary can be called the Mother of God in that sense..

Of course we all know that literally speaking she is not God's Mother!.. or the Holy Spirit's mother either.. LITERALLY SPEAKING!

Try not to be so literal and single-minded and you can see where these catholics are coming from! :thumb:

or are you just anti-catholic all together? :noidea:

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How many RCs can say, they came to a discernment in concurrence with the RCC before they were taught of what the RCC believed?  If there are any out there, I would love to hear from them, but I want examples.

Answer: Scott Hahn. He speaks of this in several of his books. I started rereading "The Lamb's Supper" and he writes in that book how the Mass started making sense to him because of Revalations BEFORE he bacame Catholic. Actually, to be more exact, while he was still a self-proclaimed ANTI-Catholic!

I said I think you're just trying to upset us because you started you post that came right after my explanation with three laughing faces. I don't know about you, but I don't like being laughed at when I'm not trying to be funny. I especially don't like being laughed at when I'm speaking about my faith, especially when I'm trying to explain to someone, and someone who ASKED me to answer. See my point?

Warrior,

You are right and wrong. Catholics believe that Mary literally IS the Mother of God in the sense that Mary is the Mother of God in the person of Jesus. However, I think when a lot of people say "God", they mean either God the Father or the entire Trinity. Mary is NOT the Mother of God the Father or the entire Trinity in my understanding... Its a mystery also because Jesus said that He and the Father are one, to see and know Him is to know the Father. So, if you take Jesus too literally, you could start making arguments that Jesus is the Father and the Son, which we know is not true at face value, but is true on some level... It tough stuff to try and understand.

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WFC,

racer...why the continuing debate about Mary?

Why do you want to know?  :cool2:

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munari,

Before I say anything else, I want to apologize for laughing at you.  That was very unChristianlike and you have always been polite and patient with me.  So, I'm sorry  :) !  But, yourstillwrong :noidea: JK :inlove:

I'll be off for a couple of hours because they will be turning off our power, but I'll be back! :noidea:

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How did the Jews usually refer to God when they spoke of God? What were the titles they used?

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WFC,

I believe you are being too literal here! You mean to tell me, that you honestly cannot hear what Munari is saying in his posts?... He is not saying that Mary is literally God's mother... He is saying from the standpoint of Jesus being her son and the fact that Jesus is God, thus Mary can be called the Mother of God in that sense..

I know that! :sarcasm:

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racer, just curious then.. why do you keep dragging this on and on? :noidea:

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WFC,

racer, just curious then.. why do you keep dragging this on and on?

Because when people ask me what I think or a question, I like to the polite thing and answer. :cool2:

So, again, I'm curious, why do you care?  

If it doesn't concern or interest you, why do you continue to view the thread?  So, I suggest if you have nothing new or insiteful to add, you avoid the subject.  It seems to be distressing you.  ???

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Hi,

As a former Catholic, I must say that I completely agree that Mary is the mother of Jesus, and if Jesus is God incarnate then hence the mother of God.

It does not imply that those who hold to this belief affirm that Mary created God.

Mary was the true and everlasting Ark Of The Covenant.

To the Hebrews, the Ark Of The Covenant was the most revered item in all the world. Because they believed that God's power and spirit resided within those walls of acacia and gold.

Even so, it is the same with this Mary. God must have smiled down upon her when she was born. He knew that through her, he would be able to offer the world salvation, gather back his lost sheep and forever undo the evil that befell man in the Garden Of Eden.

It's a shame that so many people choose to revile this simple and humble servant of God.

It's amazing how the world despises the hebrews and the Jews simply because God chose them. The world was envious of their special relationship. What's so special about the Jews that they should be chosen and not me! And so they have been persecuted all this time.

It is the same even with Mary. Instead of treating her with some well deserved respect and calling her blessed, the majority of people would instead say...

What makes her so #### special?

What did she do to deserve this honor?

She is nobody's mother!

Jesus probably didnt even like her!

She was just a plain ordinary sinner just like me!

She is damned more than she is blessed. With Christians leading the way. Does nothing ever change? Does history always have to repeat itself?

I love her just as I know Jesus loves me. On Mothers Day I thank her and recognize her as the greatest mother that ever lived.

And just as true Christians imitate Christ because he is a perfect Son. Mary should be imitated as a perfect mother.

The heart and spirit of what Munari says rings true.

Well, thats all I have to say.

Thanks, Joe

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