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tjw--Very seldom is a new christian baptized with the power of the holy spirit, yes.  This seldom happens till sometime down the road, and most of the christians I know, STILL havent received it.

When one has received it, you KNOW it.

Ive never seen where the Holy Spirit has given this power, or the gifts of the spirit, until they are yielded and more learned.

Would you give a 14 yr old a new car for his birthday?

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I should add that when one is saved, they are indwelled with the Holy Spirit, and that in itself constitutes salvation.

But the baptism is when the holy spirit comes Upon a person.

You will notice that in Acts it speaks numerous times of the Holy Spirit coming UPON them.

In the Upper Room notice too that they were "in one accord" meaning they were sufficient in their dedication to Christ; they were sold out to Him.  And only 120 of them.

The time element is dependent upon us; not the calendar or the clock.  

The Baptism cannot be presumed or taken for granted; when it happens something quite different and unique happens to you and you will know it.

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tjw -- You're the first to catch on to the meaning of my handle:  See de light  :thumb:

Now Im just waiting for you to "see de light"  :cool2:

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If what you are saying is true, CD then I was baptized with the Holy Spirit when I was saved.  It wasnt "down the road" when I was "cleaned up" I do not believe that the power of the Holy Spirit isnt there when we are saved.  I dont think those verses respond to a two staged process.  Was this your experience?

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My minister's wife recieved the Holy Spirit baptism and began to speak in other tongues about 30 seconds after she gave her life to the Lord-and had never heard of it, she was about 12.  I was saved for about a year before I received it.  Have you received the Holy Spirit SINCE ye believed?

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If what you are saying is true, CD then I was baptized with the Holy Spirit when I was saved.
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Does a Christian need to be baptised in the Holy Spirit in order to be saved (go to heaven)?

Would a person need water baptism as well as Holy Spirit baptism?

Note John 3:5

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

That seems clearcut to me. Is simple belief not enough for salvation? If a person believed but was never baptised in the Spirit, would they go to hell?

I realize there are a couple of instances in the Bible (such as the thief on the Cross) of people who receive salvation without even water baptism, but these are probably exceptions in extreme situations.

Would like to hear any views. :)

No...one needs FAITH in Jesus Christ...first..! :cool2:

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Good thread - thought it was one of those

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Here's the scriptures QRR was using in the above post.

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