Guest Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 What exactly is wrong with Mysticism? What Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee. Psalms 119:11 Is Right Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. Psalms 1:1-2 Is Jesus Christ But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I am the LORD which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness, in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith the LORD. Jeremiah 9:24 And Him Crucified But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world. Galatians 6:14 See? Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 2 Corinthians 6:14 ____________ Be Blessed Beloved Of The KING It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. John 6:63 Love, Your Brother Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted March 3, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted March 3, 2011 What is mysticism? Mysticism First published Thu Nov 11, 2004; substantive revision Tue Feb 9, 2010 The term Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted March 3, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted March 3, 2011 By the way . . . but if you dog deeper in scripture, it is a lie. There's a real good tease in there, I just can't think of what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vja4Him Posted March 3, 2011 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 85 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/04/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/18/1957 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 Perhaps its just me...but seems like mysticism acknowledged or not has been in the church for years...i.e. masons and other similar groups. Yes, Mysticism has been around for over a thousand years. Many of the ancients wrote on things pertaining to Mysticism, which involves centering on one's inner self, searching for the God that is already within (which is a false teaching). God is not already within us. We are all sinners, and can only come to know the One, True, Living God, through Jesus Christ, who is the only Mediator between God and men: Romans 3:23 (King James Version) 23For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. 1 Timothy 2:5 (King James Version) 5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vja4Him Posted March 3, 2011 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 85 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/04/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/18/1957 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 (edited) "Out of the body", I would say is mysticism ONLY if it was controlled. That is, if you are dying and your spirit leaves your body, that isn't mysticism; but if you will your spirit out (however that is done, I don't know, but I've heard of people doing that), that would be mysticism. Does this make some sense? Out-of-body experiences (Astral Projection) is just one of the dangers of Mysticism. Not that everyone will attempt this demonic practice, but there are many other areas of danger involved with practicing Mysticism. Many of the Mystics that Christians are being told to study, and learn from, and even imitate, were and are involved with demonic deceptions (occult practices, unbiblical teachings). We must look to the Word of God (the Bible) for our source of wisdom, strength, hope and knowledge of God. Look what has happened with the counterfeit revivals, like Lakeland and Todd Bentley (just one of many examples). Edited March 3, 2011 by vja4Him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vja4Him Posted March 3, 2011 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 85 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/04/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/18/1957 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 If you are grounded solidly in scripture, do research on Christian Mysticism. You will be surprised on how long it has been around, who followed it and what it is about. Some teachings sound really good, but if you dog deeper in scripture, it is a lie. Others "fill in the gap" where scripture is silent. Everything is spiritual and not much left out, including stuff like lucid dreaming. Very good advice! Aanyone who is interested in Mysticism, should use strict caution ... Stay grounded in God's Word (the Bible) daily. Mysticism is very attractive, especially for those who are interested in reading, religion, history, science, hidden things .... I'm not afraid to read from the Mystics, and have read from many of them, but I always have to pray that God will clear my mind, and continue to renew a right spirit within me. I do not practice Mysticism, and have no intentions of becoming involved with various programs that many churches are getting involved with (like Rick "Warren's Purpose Driven (Lies) Life," and Richard Foster's book, "Celebration of Discipline." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vja4Him Posted March 3, 2011 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 85 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/04/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/18/1957 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 Richard Bennet, a former Catholic priest, along with James Sundquist, share their experience and concerns regarding Mysticism in this video: https://healtheland.wordpress.com/2010/07/17/back-to-rome-in-40-days-how-catholic-mysticism-is-infiltrating-evangelical-churches/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted March 3, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted March 3, 2011 If you are grounded solidly in scripture, do research on Christian Mysticism. You will be surprised on how long it has been around, who followed it and what it is about. Some teachings sound really good, but if you dog deeper in scripture, it is a lie. Others "fill in the gap" where scripture is silent. Everything is spiritual and not much left out, including stuff like lucid dreaming. Lucid dreamimg is simply knowing that you're dreaming. Is that bad? You will not like my answer, but do the research. If I were to give you my thoughts from what I have studied, you would just continue to question what I say. The best way is to do the work yourself and come to your own conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted March 3, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted March 3, 2011 By the way . . . but if you dog deeper in scripture, it is a lie. There's a real good tease in there, I just can't think of what it is. Woops! I meant "dig", not dog ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Posted March 3, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 115 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 8,281 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 249 Days Won: 3 Joined: 03/03/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/30/1955 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Folks, honestly! Paul being caught up to the third heaven was a mystical experience. Ezekiel, Daniel, Abraham, Moses, Elijah, ALL HAD MYSTICAL EXPERIENCES! Mysticism is probably a too broad word, like 'magic.' For many people consider divine healing 'magic,' as many people consider Hindu Meditation techniques 'mysticism.' The practice of Christian mysticism may be thought of as simply meditating ('mumbling aloud') on the Scriptures and waiting upon God in quietude. Somehow that doesn't sound dreadfully sinful to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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