How are we SAVED today ?

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but rebut if you can what I have written in Acts 9:6 and what has been referenced in 1 Cor 12:3 , and did you read it ?? dan p

I just did your other thread:

Acts 9:6 - And he trembling and astonished said , Lord, what wilt thou have me to do ? And the Lord said unto him, Arise , and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do .

1 Cor. 12:3 - Wherefore I give you to understand , that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

Failing to see the connection here.

The word "baptize" is the Greek word Baptizo

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#2 , SAUL called Him LORD/KURIOS/ JEHOVAH .

#3 , Here , SAUL IS SAVED , referenced in 1 Cor 12:4 .

Are you saying anyone who calls Jesus, Lord, is automatically saved?

Hi to all , and let me say that I did not mean to post the second one as I thought that the first one was lost and then did a second one .

#1 , anyone that does a word study in Strong's dictionary , will see who preaches Grace , and it is Paul .

#2 , it is not found in the OT .

#3 , it is not found in the Gospels

#4 , and yes I know the Grace and Truth came by Christ

#5 , Thiere is a big Difference between Grace and THE DISPENSATION of Grace that Paul expounds and that is in Eph 3:1-9 and Jesus and the 12 never preached this , for it was given to Paul .

#6, In Matt 7:21 , Not everyone that saith unto Me , LORD , LORD , shall enter into the Kingdom of heaven , but he that doeth the WILL of my Father which is in heaven .

and this was ONLY spoken to the Nation of Israel to enter the Millennial Kingdom .

#7 , In 1 Cor 12:3 , when Paul acknowledges Jehovah , which is referenced in verse 6 , Paul recieves the Holy Spirit , as 1 Cor 12 :3 says .

#8 , This means that Paul was saved in verse 6 of Acts 9 .

The questions still remains , What cause all who say that they are SAVED , since the mem and women atre dead in trespasses and sins ?

And 1 Cor 2:14 says , that the Natural man recieveth NOT the things of the Spirit iof God , for they are FOLLISHNESS unto him , NEITHER can he know them , because they are SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED .

This means that saves those that He wants to save , are the Elect

He gives the FAITH to believe , and this Faith comes from God as Eph 2:8 reveals , dan p

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#1 , anyone that does a word study in Strong's dictionary , will see who preaches Grace , and it is Paul .

#2 , it is not found in the OT .

#3 , it is not found in the Gospels

You make it sound as if grace was not a characteristic of God's dealing with man before Saul of Tarsus' conversion?

#4 , and yes I know the Grace and Truth came by Christ

#5 , Thiere is a big Difference between Grace and THE DISPENSATION of Grace

What is your explanation of this?

THE DISPENSATION of Grace that Paul expounds and that is in Eph 3:1-9 and Jesus and the 12 never preached this , for it was given to Paul .

This makes it sound as if you are proclaiming Paul as the head of the church, or something like that?

#6, In Matt 7:21 , Not everyone that saith unto Me , LORD , LORD , shall enter into the Kingdom of heaven , but he that doeth the WILL of my Father which is in heaven .

and this was ONLY spoken to the Nation of Israel to enter the Millennial Kingdom .

Really?

So did everything else Jesus say apply only to the Nation of Israel?

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#1 , anyone that does a word study in Strong's dictionary , will see who preaches Grace , and it is Paul .

#2 , it is not found in the OT .

#3 , it is not found in the Gospels

#4 , and yes I know the Grace and Truth came by Christ

#5 , Thiere is a big Difference between Grace and THE DISPENSATION of Grace that Paul expounds and that is in Eph 3:1-9 and Jesus and the 12 never preached this , for it was given to Paul .

#6, In Matt 7:21 , Not everyone that saith unto Me , LORD , LORD , shall enter into the Kingdom of heaven , but he that doeth the WILL of my Father which is in heaven .

and this was ONLY spoken to the Nation of Israel to enter the Millennial Kingdom .

#7 , In 1 Cor 12:3 , when Paul acknowledges Jehovah , which is referenced in verse 6 , Paul recieves the Holy Spirit , as 1 Cor 12 :3 says .

#8 , This means that Paul was saved in verse 6 of Acts 9 .

The questions still remains , What cause all who say that they are SAVED , since the mem and women atre dead in trespasses and sins ?

And 1 Cor 2:14 says , that the Natural man recieveth NOT the things of the Spirit iof God , for they are FOLLISHNESS unto him , NEITHER can he know them , because they are SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED .

This means that saves those that He wants to save , are the Elect

He gives the FAITH to believe , and this Faith comes from God as Eph 2:8 reveals , dan p [/quotTheree]

Grace

But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. Genesis 6:8

Grace

For the LORD God is a sun and shield: the LORD will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly. O LORD of hosts, blessed is the man that trusteth in thee. Psalms 84:11-12

Grace

It is of the LORD's mercies that we are not consumed, because his compassions fail not. They are new every morning: great is thy faithfulness. Lamentations 3:22-23

Grace

The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee. Jeremiah 31:3

Grace

Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. Isaiah 1:18

Grace

And ye shall be holy unto me: for I the LORD am holy, and have severed you from other people, that ye should be mine. Leviticus 20:26

Grace

The LORD thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing. Zephaniah 3:17

And The Elect

And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God. Zechariah 13:8-9

The Jew

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Whosoever Will

And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call. Joel 2:32

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Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. Revelation 22:16-17

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Be Blessed Beloved Of The KING

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:

The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:

The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them. Numbers 6:24-27

Love, Your Brother Joe

O taste and see that the LORD is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him. Psalms 34:8

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Dan, are you a hyper dispensationalist?

Hi candice , and I get called many names that most believer saying them do not understand .

But I am a Dispensationalist , only because Paul is a Dispensati0onalist as referenced in Eph 3:1-9 ; Col 1:25 , just to mention 2 of them

Pauline dispensationalist begin the Body of Christ at Acts 9 .

Hyper-dispensatio0nalist , begin the Body nof Christ in Acts 28:28 , but there are more differences between us and them , and if you want to more I will be happy to explain the differences , and Covenant theology and what Acts 2 people believe , dan p