‎"For nothing is secret...."

[Aleksander]

hello everyone. Today I wish to share something with you all but at the same time get some feedback on whether or not this is sound interpretation of the passage which says that there is nothing that is hidden that will not be revealed:

‎"For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad." Luke 8:17 (King James Version)

What I am unsure of is the interesting implications that may be seen after reading this verse as it is in the Italian Bibles. I am only taking a second semester of

Italian, so if anyone here does speak it and understands it, feel free to correct and explain anything that I may misunderstand. But also, I am also hoping to, as I already said, get some feedback on whether or not this is sound interpretation of the passage in terms of how much this agrees or not agrees with the Bible.

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“Non c'è nulla di nascosto che non debba essere manifestato, nulla di segreto che non debba essere conosciuto e venire in piena luce. ”

Luca 8:17 (Conferenza Episcopale Italiana)

(literally, it more or less reads: Not there is nothing of hidden that not should to be expressed, nothing of (withheld) secret that not should to be known and to come to in full light)

[sarà future form of essere(to be)] [debba-should- present tense subjunctive of dovere(have to, must)]

(Google translated as: There is nothing hidden except to be revealed, nothing secret that will not be known and come to full light.)

Interesting how it says "except to be revealed", like, I guess, except to be revealed at the end. Withheld is also an interesting word that Google translator gave, which I think add its own nuance to the verse, withheld from someone and or everyone.

Also interesting, and even more so, it the use of conosciuto(known)(from conoscere-to know) as opposed to saputo(known)(from sapere-to know). The two are adjectives describing something or someone known. But the interesting part is that both are respective forms of two corresponding verbs, which, while both conveying the meaning of ‘to known’, both have different meanings in a way, different meaning of ‘to know’, and these nuances are carried to their respective adjective forms as well, from what I understand.

Sapere is to know something: as in find out something(information, a fact of some kind(a state capital, that the party will start at this or that time, etc)); or know something as in know how to do something(like, to cook); and also a quick familiarization with something(I think). Example is you learned a name of a city, and that is now saputo a tu, known to you, and you know that there is a city with that name somewhere.

Conoscere on the other hand is different tone of 'to know': in some cases to know something on more than a surface level; to meet somebody for the first time; to know somebody. Example is I introduce my friend to you. Or after I introduced the two of you to each other, you two talked, etc and now they are conosciuto(known) to you and you are consciouto(known) to them.

To add further examples: husband and wife would conoscere each other, not sapere; you’d sapere that there is a city somewhere with a specific name, but if you visit that city some day, maybe even live there, the city would be conosciouto to you, you’d conoscere the city.

The implication? Whatever is hidden, maybe even hoped that it would never even be allowed for anyone sapere about it, instead it would all be brought to light and everyone, on the Day of Judgment, will conoscere about it. I am not sure how correct it is to say "everyone", but I think it is for sure that at the very least you and God will know about it. (Both God and we knew already, of course, but sometimes we don't always admit everything to ourselves and to God, and here we will, in face of evidence and irrefutable proof.)

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“Poiché non vi è nulla di nascosto che non sarà manifestato, né di segreto che non debba essere conosciuto e portato alla luce.”

Luca 8:17 (La Nuova Diodati)

(literally, it more or less reads: since not there is nothing of hidden that not will be expressed, (nor)(or)(either) of hidden that not should to be known and brought to the light)

[sarà future form of essere(to be)] [debba-should- present tense subjunctive of dovere(have to, must)]

(Google translated as: Since there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed, or hidden that will not be known and come to light.)

Again, interesting how conosciuto is used and not saputo.

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“Infatti non c'è niente che ora è nascosto che non sarà portato alla luce, né di segreto che non sarà rivelato.”

Luca 8:17 (La Parola è Vita)

(literally, it more or less reads: in fact not there is nothing that now is hidden that is not to be brought to the light, nothing of secret that not to be revealed)

[sarà future form of essere(to be)] [ora-now, hour, this hour]

(Google translated as: In fact there is nothing that is now hidden that will not be brought to light, or hidden that will not be revealed.)

This is very interesting choice of words: in fact. Since God said so, then indeed it is in fact. It’s not that maybe no one will ever know since it was back in the day or I hid it or something. But God Himself said that it will be revealed, so in fact it will be revealed, God does not lie, and as the other two translations imply, not only it will be saputo but conosciuto.

In fatti literally reads “in facts” ,which when considered in the context of life opens up another picture: in facts of life it is obvious that it will all be in fact brought to light: again and again things people do, say, think and so on are in fact later brought to light: it a fact that they are later brough to light, and are brough to light in facts, as in, facts are presented that bring these things to light. the facts of when things are brought to light, in those facts it will be brought to light. and not only on this earth, it will be in facts(facts that something did happen) will be brough to light at the Day of Judgement.

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To the common objection to this verse(from non-believers and maybe even some Christians since not all Christians life as if everything will be revealed in the end) is that some things are never revealed(like unsolved murders, etc), this verse is a clear indication that not only it will all be revealed, it will be revealed in a way these murderers never hoped and they will be brought to justice by God because He promised things will be revealed. Not only murderers who “got away with it” in this life. Our so called little things that we silence out conscience over, or things that we hide and hope no one will ever find out about much less have any kind of deeper knowledge of(how we sat at the comp screen and at what times, etc), they too will all come out, for all to conoscere(with all the details how he or she did it, no matter how intimate), not just for all to sapere(oh, he or she did it).

Simply put, no wiggle room; it will come out and it will come out with all the details, no matter how intimate. Simply put, staring at the screen of your life which will reveal everything, even the most intimate details.

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Now to read Revelation 20:12 and keep all this in mind.

http://bible.cc/revelation/20-12.htm

"And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is [the book] of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works." Revelation 20:12 KJV

Now, I understand that Jesus was talking about not hiding the lit lamp, which I wonder if that is the only context this verse is to be considered in, and maybe I am too quick to try and fit it here. Especially to the Revelation verse quoted.

Lastly, this one thing about this passage in the context of not hiding the lit lamp.

We are the light and the salt of the world. If Christians try to hide the light, the lamp(be it in fear of persecution, or embarrassment or whatever else), it just won't work; eventually, not only will everyone know about it(sapere)(oh, he or she is a Christian, we didn't know) but also all about it, to the extent of conoscere may imply(he or she is a Christian, but hid it(this would of course also expose the Christian's being ashamed of who she or he is), since I think God will not be letting His children hide who they are(except I guess where it will be deadly and not their time yet?).

In itself it is a less than moral thing Christians do, hiding who they are. So then if we light the lamp but hide it, again, it will be revealed that we are, and if needed, with a conviction of sin(hiding who they are despite having been commanded to be the light and salt of the world, hiding who they are out of fear or embarrassment or whatever else).

So what do you all think? Anything in here that does not belong, does not sound right, does not agree with the Bible?

Edited April 18, 2011 by Aleksander