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I don't think that it is a matter of God being picky about what we call Him. It is a matter that it means something. He is not the Christ - a Greek pharmacist. He is MasiYah, the anointed King of Israel. And He is not Jesus, a derivation, of a transliteration, of a derivation, of a transliteration. He is Yahushah, who came in his Father's name. His name means Yah is salvation for He is the saving right hand of His Father Yahuah - See Exodus 6:7-8

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I don't think that it is a matter of God being picky about what we call Him. It is a matter that it means something. He is not the Christ - a Greek pharmacist. He is MasiYah, the anointed King of Israel. And He is not Jesus, a derivation, of a transliteration, of a derivation, of a transliteration. He is Yahushah, who came in his Father's name. His name means Yah is salvation for He is the saving right hand of His Father Yahuah - See Exodus 6:7-8

If that were true, I'd agree.

Yahshuah is a recent invention of 2-house self-proclaimed "hebrew scholars" theology. Anyone who speaks hebrew as their first tongue will tell you that it's impossible. There is no name like that in hebrew and never has been.

Yeshua (YESH wa) would be correct. When used as a verb it means "salvation" but when used as a name it means "Savior". Yahshuah is gibberish and some kind of hillbilly hebrew.

I'm not saying that it matters to your salvation, or that He can't hear someone who is calling Him by the wrong name. What I am saying is that you have no room to talk about people who call Him Jesus.

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I don't think that it is a matter of God being picky about what we call Him. It is a matter that it means something. He is not the Christ - a Greek pharmacist. He is MasiYah, the anointed King of Israel. And He is not Jesus, a derivation, of a transliteration, of a derivation, of a transliteration. He is Yahushah, who came in his Father's name. His name means Yah is salvation for He is the saving right hand of His Father Yahuah - See Exodus 6:7-8

If that were true, I'd agree.

Yahshuah is a recent invention of 2-house self-proclaimed "hebrew scholars" theology. Anyone who speaks hebrew as their first tongue will tell you that it's impossible. There is no name like that in hebrew and never has been.

Yeshua (YESH wa) would be correct. When used as a verb it means "salvation" but when used as a name it means "Savior". Yahshuah is gibberish and some kind of hillbilly hebrew.

I'm not saying that it matters to your salvation, or that He can't hear someone who is calling Him by the wrong name. What I am saying is that you have no room to talk about people who call Him Jesus.

Amen~!

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I don't think that it is a matter of God being picky about what we call Him. It is a matter that it means something. He is not the Christ - a Greek pharmacist. He is MasiYah, the anointed King of Israel. And He is not Jesus, a derivation, of a transliteration, of a derivation, of a transliteration. He is Yahushah, who came in his Father's name. His name means Yah is salvation for He is the saving right hand of His Father Yahuah - See Exodus 6:7-8

If that were true, I'd agree.

Yahshuah is a recent invention of 2-house self-proclaimed "hebrew scholars" theology. Anyone who speaks hebrew as their first tongue will tell you that it's impossible. There is no name like that in hebrew and never has been.

Yeshua (YESH wa) would be correct. When used as a verb it means "salvation" but when used as a name it means "Savior". Yahshuah is gibberish and some kind of hillbilly hebrew.

I'm not saying that it matters to your salvation, or that He can't hear someone who is calling Him by the wrong name. What I am saying is that you have no room to talk about people who call Him Jesus.

It is true dear friend, so believe it!

Minor point, but first of all, it is Yahushah, not Yahshua.

Second Minor point – I didn’t arrive at the conviction that the Father’s name was Yahuah, and the Son’s name was Yahushah from the 2-house self-proclaimed "hebrew scholars" – but, so what if it did. Roman Catholics were wrong about a lot of issues of doctrine for 1200 years until the Protestant Reformation cam along. It has happened – the church has been dead wrong on a grand scale. And . . . throughout church history, right up until the time shortly after the reformation, there was almost universal agreement among Christian scholars that God’s sacred name was pronounced Yahuah – well before we 2-house self-proclaimed "hebrew scholars."

The argument you are making, as I’m sure you have done so before, is that the Biblical term Yeshua cannot be rendered as Yahshua. Other reputable Hebrew scholars have argued differently, so I might suggest that there simply isn’t the universal agreement you are contending here. I might also suggest that the name Yeshua Strong’s #3442 rendered today in Biblical Hebrew (which is really a form of Aramaic) may have changed through time, from the time it was recorded, until the time the Meteoritic Jews added the vowel points to Biblical Hebrew a thousand years ago. I could point out that these same intentionally obscured the Tetragrammation by using the vowel markings for Adonai (lord), Elohim (god), or HaShem (the name) – this in academic terms is called a Qere Perpetuum. So who is to say they did not do the very same thing to the Aramaic version of Joshua (Strong’s #3442).

I’m not sure how interested you are in having this discussion, so I'll end this letter with one final point. The Father’s and the Son’s names both begin with God’s name Yah (Strong’s # 3050) – as in halleluYah.

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eprom - Would you provide your evidence for your claim?

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Could someone link to me the video so I can see it.

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Pro 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what [is] his name, and what [is] his son's name, if thou canst tell?

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Yeah, I would like to see it as well.

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eprom - Would you provide your evidence for your claim?

Gérard Gertoux is a good place to start - Google Him. He has a number of on-line resources, including this one that gives a half decent review of how various Christians leaders and scholars believed you should pronounce the Tetragrammation through history:

http://www.lifespurpose.net/divinename/NameofGod1.htm#A02

Also, how much have you looked through Jeff Benner's site on Ancient Hebrew? http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/

Other than this, is there something specific you want me to respond to?

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Yeah, I would like to see it as well.

We are not going to see the video, joi.
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