other one Posted November 4, 2011 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 600 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,417 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 28,173 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 4, 2011 God's Law is Perfect When God said, (Gen 1:3) "Let there be light," it happened. When He commanded that the oceans be, they came into existence. God's word is powerful. What He says is never futile, empty, or without power. The Law is a reflection of God's character. It is pure: (Pro.30:5) "Every word of God is pure:" and perfect: (Psalm 19:7) "The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul:" It is powerful: (Heb 4:12) "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword," The Ten Commandments reflect God's holiness and justice. Can't disagree, however you could keep the ten commandments all your life and still go to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizzdy Posted November 4, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 173 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3,911 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 10 Joined: 03/21/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted November 4, 2011 God's Law is Perfect When God said, (Gen 1:3) "Let there be light," it happened. When He commanded that the oceans be, they came into existence. God's word is powerful. What He says is never futile, empty, or without power. The Law is a reflection of God's character. It is pure: (Pro.30:5) "Every word of God is pure:" and perfect: (Psalm 19:7) "The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul:" It is powerful: (Heb 4:12) "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword," The Ten Commandments reflect God's holiness and justice. Can't disagree, however you could keep the ten commandments all your life and still go to hell. Very true, the rich young man had kept the Torah all his life, thought that was what got him redemption/salvation, if we do not obey out of love and with love its all for nothing. shalom, Mizz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Psalm 5: 5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity. Psalm11: 5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth. Lev.20: 23 "Moreover, you shall not follow the customs of the nation which I shall drive out before you, for they did all these things, and therefore I have abhorred them." Prov 6: 16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him 17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, 19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. Hosea 9: 15 All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters. While it is true that there are indeed people whom God hates, it needs to be understood that God does not "hate" the same way we do. When you see the word "hate" in those verses, you must not project the carnal expression of hate that is expressed by human beings on to God. As expressed by humans, hate is murderous and unredemptive. This may be hard to understand, but God's hatred does not exclude His love. God is still able to love those whom people He hates, because God's hatred is not carnal and stained with sin. It is perfect and it is righteous and it is redemptive. We don't have a point of reference for how hatred can be redemptive, but with God it is. God relates to mankind redemptively. His love, hate and other communicable attributes are redemptive in nature. God's hatred and His love can peacefully co-exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozell Posted November 5, 2011 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 53 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/19/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/19/1965 Author Share Posted November 5, 2011 God's Law is Perfect When God said, (Gen 1:3) "Let there be light," it happened. When He commanded that the oceans be, they came into existence. God's word is powerful. What He says is never futile, empty, or without power. The Law is a reflection of God's character. It is pure: (Pro.30:5) "Every word of God is pure:" and perfect: (Psalm 19:7) "The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul:" It is powerful: (Heb 4:12) "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword," The Ten Commandments reflect God's holiness and justice. Can't disagree, however you could keep the ten commandments all your life and still go to hell. where is this written? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozell Posted November 5, 2011 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 53 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/19/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/19/1965 Author Share Posted November 5, 2011 God's Law is Perfect When God said, (Gen 1:3) "Let there be light," it happened. When He commanded that the oceans be, they came into existence. God's word is powerful. What He says is never futile, empty, or without power. The Law is a reflection of God's character. It is pure: (Pro.30:5) "Every word of God is pure:" and perfect: (Psalm 19:7) "The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul:" It is powerful: (Heb 4:12) "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword," The Ten Commandments reflect God's holiness and justice. Can't disagree, however you could keep the ten commandments all your life and still go to hell. Very true, the rich young man had kept the Torah all his life, thought that was what got him redemption/salvation, if we do not obey out of love and with love its all for nothing. shalom, Mizz no the rich young man did not keep the law all his life, he broke the law when he spoke with Jesus the Lord asked him to sell all that he had and follow Him the rich young man chose his RICHES over GOD breaking the first commandment also Love is the commandments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozell Posted November 5, 2011 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 53 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/19/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/19/1965 Author Share Posted November 5, 2011 Psalm 5: 5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity. Psalm11: 5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth. Lev.20: 23 "Moreover, you shall not follow the customs of the nation which I shall drive out before you, for they did all these things, and therefore I have abhorred them." Prov 6: 16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him 17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, 19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. Hosea 9: 15 All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters. While it is true that there are indeed people whom God hates, it needs to be understood that God does not "hate" the same way we do. When you see the word "hate" in those verses, you must not project the carnal expression of hate that is expressed by human beings on to God. As expressed by humans, hate is murderous and unredemptive. This may be hard to understand, but God's hatred does not exclude His love. God is still able to love those whom people He hates, because God's hatred is not carnal and stained with sin. It is perfect and it is righteous and it is redemptive. We don't have a point of reference for how hatred can be redemptive, but with God it is. God relates to mankind redemptively. His love, hate and other communicable attributes are redemptive in nature. God's hatred and His love can peacefully co-exist. God's hate is perfect. thats the difference Psalm 139:22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies. God is merciful and longsuffering this is another difference Exodus 34:6 And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,God being longsuffering he gives us chances to turn ourselves around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Psalm 5: 5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity. Psalm11: 5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth. Lev.20: 23 "Moreover, you shall not follow the customs of the nation which I shall drive out before you, for they did all these things, and therefore I have abhorred them." Prov 6: 16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him 17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, 19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. Hosea 9: 15 All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters. While it is true that there are indeed people whom God hates, it needs to be understood that God does not "hate" the same way we do. When you see the word "hate" in those verses, you must not project the carnal expression of hate that is expressed by human beings on to God. As expressed by humans, hate is murderous and unredemptive. This may be hard to understand, but God's hatred does not exclude His love. God is still able to love those whom people He hates, because God's hatred is not carnal and stained with sin. It is perfect and it is righteous and it is redemptive. We don't have a point of reference for how hatred can be redemptive, but with God it is. God relates to mankind redemptively. His love, hate and other communicable attributes are redemptive in nature. God's hatred and His love can peacefully co-exist. God's hate is perfect. thats the difference Psalm 139:22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies. God is merciful and longsuffering this is another difference Exodus 34:6 And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,God being longsuffering he gives us chances to turn ourselves around. Which is more or less what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIP Posted November 6, 2011 Group: Senior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 545 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 116 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/16/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted November 6, 2011 Does God love love everyone?..... No His love is conditional as this scripture tells us: John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozell Posted November 6, 2011 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 53 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/19/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/19/1965 Author Share Posted November 6, 2011 Does God love love everyone?..... No His love is conditional as this scripture tells us: John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. amen unfortunately we have a doctrine that teaches that God love is unconditional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozell Posted November 6, 2011 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 53 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/19/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/19/1965 Author Share Posted November 6, 2011 But, praise be to God, (Rom.5:6) "in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." There is no way we can be clean before God. That is why God became one of us (John 1:1,14; Heb.2:17), to take our place and become sin on our behalf (2 Cor.5:21). Therefore, people have two options: Trust Jesus, God in flesh, as your savior and put your faith in the sacrifice that He made on the cross and in nothing you do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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