~candice~ Posted November 17, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 955 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 11,318 Content Per Day: 1.89 Reputation: 448 Days Won: 33 Joined: 12/16/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted November 17, 2011 For those who wondered why I follow American politics, here is your answer. I am going to be very unhappy if we become the target in the pacific because of the US. US President Barack Obama will use troop withdrawals in Iraq and Afghanistan to bolster forces in the Asia-Pacific - the strongest sign yet that Australia will be at the centre of a new world order. Read more: http://www.news.com.au/national/usa-will-be-at-the-very-heart-of-the-new-pacific/story-e6frfkvr-1226198403757#ixzz1e0ElrWFF Announcing yesterday, during a historic speech to the Australian parliament, that he had already told his national security team to draw up plans, Mr Obama gave his strongest vow to date about more US involvement in our economic zone, The Daily Telegraphreported. He also promised planned cuts to US defence spending to tackle the country's debt crisis would not apply to the Asia-Pacific, where existing bases would be strengthened with a greater and more flexible military presence. The hawkish push into the region was met with a frosty reception from Beijing. Chinese officials yesterday questioned the US plan, accusing it of "flexing its muscles over the South China Sea issue". "The move may not be in the interest of countries in the region," a spokesman for China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs said. An opinion piece on China's People's Daily website also warned that "Australia will be caught in the crossfire" if it uses its military bases to help the US harm Chinese interests. "Australia surely cannot play China for a fool," it stated. "It is impossible for China to remain detached no matter what Australia does to undermine its security. One thing is certain - if Australia uses its military bases to help the US harm Chinese interests, then Australia itself will be caught in the crossfire. "Australia should at least prevent things from growing out of control. Australia should cherish its friendship with China and show this, not merely spout soothing words." Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd last night said: "We are not going to have our national security policy dictated by any other external power ... We don't seek to dictate to the Chinese what their national security policy should be." The move to switch troops from the two war zones into our region was first raised by Mr Rudd at last year's Ausmin meeting with US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Mr Obama and Prime Minister Julia Gillard arrive in Bali today for the high-powered East Asia Summit, at which the issue of China's provocative claims over natural resources in the South China Sea will be a focus. While most ASEAN countries will privately welcome the tough talk on China, analysts acknowledge yesterday's announcement may hamper security talks today when Mr Obama will be the first US president to attend a meeting of the East Asia Summit. Russian and Indian leaders will also attend for the first time, in an expanded forum established by Australia and which has now become the leading world group for economic and security issues. Mr Obama said that as wars in Iraq and Afghanistan wound down, he would make the Asia-Pacific region a key priority. "As we end today's wars I have directed my national security team to make our presence and missions in the Asia-Pacific a top priority," he said. "As a result, reductions in US defence spending will not, I repeat will not, come at the expense of the Asia-Pacific." He said the US would seek co-operation with China, including communication between militaries to foster understanding and avoid "miscalculation". "We will do this even as we continue to speak candidly to Beijing about the importance of upholding international norms and respecting the universal human rights of the Chinese people," he said. President Obama and Bob Brown have a brieft chat, as PM Julia Gillard looks on in the background. Picture: AFP Mr Obama also turned his attention to US domestic issues while outlining his Pacific priorities, saying the region was crucial to achieving his country's economic goals. "As the world's fastest-growing region - and home to more than half the global economy - Asia is critical to achieving my highest priority: creating jobs and opportunity for the American people," he said. "With most of the world's nuclear powers and nearly half of humanity, this region will largely define whether the century ahead will be marked by conflict or co-operation, needless suffering or human progress. "As President, I've therefore made a deliberate and strategic decision - as a Pacific nation, the US will play a larger and long-term role in shaping this region and its future, by upholding core principles and in close partnership with allies and friends. In an interconnected world we all rise and fall together." In a historic joint meeting of senators and MPs in the house of representatives in Canberra, the US President described his country's alliance with Australia as never stronger and the values of the two nations as just as important as any wartime partnerships "The bonds between us run deep," he said. 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~candice~ Posted November 17, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 955 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 11,318 Content Per Day: 1.89 Reputation: 448 Days Won: 33 Joined: 12/16/2007 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 And just incase that wasn't obvious enough, here is another justification for why Australians have a VERY good reason to be on top of American politics. http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/bob-and-tonys-awkward-night-with-obama/ If the USA wants to dominate us via military strategy, the least we Australians can do is be aware of who and what we are playing with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted November 17, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.93 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Welcome to our world, Candice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~candice~ Posted November 17, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 955 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 11,318 Content Per Day: 1.89 Reputation: 448 Days Won: 33 Joined: 12/16/2007 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 Welcome to our world, Candice. Welcome? I've been here for years, and following this for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgedrw81 Posted November 17, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,823 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 36 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/10/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted November 17, 2011 Australia has been in the present position since WW2 on a steady increase. A good indication are the elections outcome predictions issued by the US Embassy in countries with particular American interest. Blessings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajunluvie Posted November 18, 2011 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 221 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/06/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted November 18, 2011 So what do y'all think our resident (not on forum necessarily) American leftwing liberals going to respond to Obama's plan to boot our troops over to Australia....??? hmmmmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted November 18, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.93 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Welcome to our world, Candice. Welcome? I've been here for years, and following this for years. I mean having to deal with Pres. Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted November 18, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.21 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted November 18, 2011 Maybe your country can find his birth certificate?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just_abc Posted November 18, 2011 Group: Senior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 901 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 538 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/06/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted November 18, 2011 (edited) deleted by poster Edited November 18, 2011 by just_abc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~candice~ Posted November 18, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 955 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 11,318 Content Per Day: 1.89 Reputation: 448 Days Won: 33 Joined: 12/16/2007 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 Candice Do you remember the 'Sheriff' comment by President Bush? - I am thinking that also put Australia in a difficult spot? Though perhaps not as difficult as the current situation? LOL, you mean this little gaff? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/3196524.stm That's really nothing compared to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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