OneLight Posted December 30, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.20 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted December 30, 2011 If you want difficulty, try reading the word for word translation in a Interlinear. Here is an example of Psalms 75:1. <<To the chief Musician, Altaschith, A Psalm [or] Song of Asaph. >> Unto thee, O God, do we give thanks, [unto thee] do we give thanks: for [that] thy name is near thy wondrous works declare. (v1)for•the•one-making-it-premanent must-not-be you-are-cbringing-ruin psalm to•Asaph song (v2) we-cacclaim to•you Elohim we-cacclaim and •near name-of•you they-mrecount things-being-nmarvelous-of•you In the Interlinear, there is a break in verse one where in our bibles, there is not. The above is a word for word translation. I would include the Hebrew, but I don't know how to do it quick enough. I have to go to work God Bless That would so give me a headache lol. It takes a bit getting use to, but it is well worth the headache in the end! Words You Love And Hunger For And Read Over And Over Again Are Not Only A Joy But Meat For The Soul. It's Easy Peasy And Much More Valuable That Say.... Klingon, HIja'? HISlaH!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joi Posted December 30, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 506 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 1,922 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 173 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/12/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted December 30, 2011 Thanks joi, i did stop last week in a book store, and looked at chronological but only briefly. I am leaning towards KJV or NKJV, i have tried e-sword, need more practice using it. Now i got blue letter online, but prefer a hard copy book. The Blue letter online looks great to use, i will have to put some time into it. Blue Letter has a hard copy book? News to me. Thanks for the clue in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted December 30, 2011 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,690 Content Per Day: 8.03 Reputation: 21,754 Days Won: 77 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Thanks joi, i did stop last week in a book store, and looked at chronological but only briefly. I am leaning towards KJV or NKJV, i have tried e-sword, need more practice using it. Now i got blue letter online, but prefer a hard copy book. The Blue letter online looks great to use, i will have to put some time into it. Blue Letter has a hard copy book? News to me. Thanks for the clue in. Mis-read loved one! He perfers a hard copy other than computer generated... Love, Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.J. Posted December 30, 2011 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 59 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/21/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/09/1967 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Thanks joi, i did stop last week in a book store, and looked at chronological but only briefly. I am leaning towards KJV or NKJV, i have tried e-sword, need more practice using it. Now i got blue letter online, but prefer a hard copy book. The Blue letter online looks great to use, i will have to put some time into it. Blue Letter has a hard copy book? News to me. Thanks for the clue in. Mis-read loved one! He perfers a hard copy other than computer generated... Love, Steven Is it the same as the NET Bible? I have downloaded it but haven't used it yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He giveth more grace Posted December 30, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 123 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,049 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 267 Days Won: 9 Joined: 10/22/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted December 30, 2011 About KJV-Onlyist: I dare anyone to call me a KJV-Onlyist. What about this statement: Only Throughbreds run in the Kentucky Derby. Does that make me a throughbred-onylist, NO, it is just the truth, only Throughbred run in the Derby, no Quarterhorses, Palominos, or Arabians. I hate the connotations that KJUV-Onlyist has acquired. Monarch, As a quick side note, it warms my heart to see a fellow Louisianian on here. I am from the Crowley area. ok, Again I am confused. I don't think I called you a KJV-Onlyist. I take it your not since you made such a dare. But then you give the analogy of the Kentucky Derby (they do use quarter horses in the Evangeline Downs if I'm not mistaken ) If only one type of horse is allowed to race, then that race is a "that breed only" race. Maybe my definition of KJV-Onlyism is skewed. I'm thinking KJV-Onlyist is someone who believes that the KJV is the only true Bible. Hence the term KJV-Onlyism. But then again I'm just a lowly layman who has a Cajun education. I have been horribly wrong before. I too hate the connotations that KJV-Onlyist have acquired. Both sides do seem to scream at eachother alot. Again in my previous posts I have said many people have come to Christ using many different versions. . I have not read all of the website you have posted. I am planning to read it soon. It does look very interesting. Your brother in Christ, L.J. Brother, I had no one in mind with that dare, btw that was a empty dare of course, I can't reach across the cyber-spame and zap anyone. Hey, fellow Louisianaian! I love my states history though I have many things against her present. I can't remember if I ever been to Crowley, are you Acadian (Cajun) The Derby was a poor analogy, I admit. I never have been to Evangeline Downs, but I think that I passed by it once. About my signature link: There are more interesting links at the bottom of the page that is not with the link buttons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He giveth more grace Posted December 30, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 123 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,049 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 267 Days Won: 9 Joined: 10/22/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted December 30, 2011 I wish that the Codex Sinaiticus was completely burned up by the monks of St. Catherine before that "Textus Receptus-hater" found it and the heritics Drs. Hort and Westcott translated it into English. Is God going to find you on the side of Satan and the greatest attack against the Word of God. Congratulations brother. You have now been said to have made an outrageous comment by N'Christ. He said that of me in post #33. So what if you are called KJV-only? I couldn't care less if I wear those kind of labels. I don't have any problem with what you said. I agree with you 100 percent. Keep standing up for the truth. Yes, it can be lonely, but look at people like the Prophet Jeremiah. It was basically him against the entire Jewish remnant. Nobody believed him either, but he was vindicated, and I believe you will be too. Acknowledged, thanks. Satan has never wrecked havoc on the Church as he has with the Codex Sinaiticus, Codex Vaticanus, and Modern versions (perversions). Do you know what the Jesuits think about the true Word of God? Here is a quote from The Jesuits in History , where he quotes from a Jesuit meeting in Cheri, Italy in 1825, and gives us shocking insight as to the Jesuits' true view of the Bible: "Then the Bible, that serpent which with head erect and eyes flashing, threatens us (the Jesuits) with its venom while it trails along the ground, shall be changed into a rod as soon as we (the Jesuits) are able to seize it…for three centuries past this cruel asp has left us no repose. You well know with what folds it entwines us and with what fangs it gnaws us." (The Jesuits in History, Hector Macpherson, Ozark Book Publishers, 1997, Appendix 1). http://www.1611kingj...c_jesuits.html/ [The Jesuits in this quote are talking about the Textus Receptus] I can't reply to anyone until I go to the library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldzimm Posted December 30, 2011 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 85 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,874 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 348 Days Won: 12 Joined: 03/10/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/08/1955 Share Posted December 30, 2011 No matter how you slice it or dice it (what Bible to read), if you don't accept Jesus Christ as your savior............. you might as well read the cartoon section in the newspaper, you won't get any farther ahead, you'll be just treading water and not getting anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godrulz Posted December 31, 2011 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 885 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/25/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/19/1960 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Being anti-KJV-only is not being anti-KJV. We are not hostile to the KJV and appreciate it. We are not guilty of bibliolatry by exalting an imperfect translation as perfect. It is fair game to criticize weakness and error in KJV, just as KJV-only is wrongly hostile to any other version. Our hostility is to a simplistic, arrogant, ignorant position, not the Word of God as represented in the good, but not best, KJV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylor30 Posted December 31, 2011 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 382 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 96 Days Won: 3 Joined: 12/31/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted December 31, 2011 This is a difficult question. We no longer have the original writings of the Holy Scriptures. Even the oldest texts like the DSS are copies of copies. The best translations in my opinion are the NASB sometimes the KJV and NIV. All of those have strengths and weaknesses, and generally you should try to get a parrallell Bible, never trust ONLY one translation, as all translations are of men and subject to unintentional error. Pray for guidance and ask God to show you the true meaning of scripture. One word of warning. MANY modern translations are NOT created by Christians, and have actually been changed alot to be politically correct. AVOID THESE. Remember the warning God gave in Revelation about people who would change a single letter in his Holy Word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.J. Posted December 31, 2011 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 59 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/21/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/09/1967 Share Posted December 31, 2011 This is a difficult question. We no longer have the original writings of the Holy Scriptures. Even the oldest texts like the DSS are copies of copies. The best translations in my opinion are the NASB sometimes the KJV and NIV. All of those have strengths and weaknesses, and generally you should try to get a parrallell Bible, never trust ONLY one translation, as all translations are of men and subject to unintentional error. Pray for guidance and ask God to show you the true meaning of scripture. One word of warning. MANY modern translations are NOT created by Christians, and have actually been changed alot to be politically correct. AVOID THESE. Remember the warning God gave in Revelation about people who would change a single letter in his Holy Word. I am curious, which translations are not created by Christians? I know of the JW's version but are there others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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