L.J. Posted January 29, 2012 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 59 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/21/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/09/1967 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Found this on another forum. Not sure it's true but does seem to be the case... "Finally... The Emergent Church Creed (from LetterOfMarque.us): I believe, but not with absolute certainty, in a majestic mysterious divine being who cannot be comprehended, the initiator of Darwinian Evolution. And in Jesus, whom we agree to follow with a humble hermeneutic, who was conceived by the Mother Spirit (aka Sarayu from The Shack) born of Mary who probably wasn’t a virgin (it really wouldn't matter if she was or wasn’t) who was crucified under Pontius Pilate in order to expose the evils of the Roman Empire and motivate us to defect from all Imperial framing stories. On the third day He/She rose in the hearts of His/Her followers (getting hung up in Modernist arguments for or against Jesus' bodily resurrection entirely misses the point and the beauty of the resurrection narratives) He/She ascended into heaven and He/She is dreaming and hoping that we’ll follow His/Her examples of feeding the poor, embracing the “other” and non-violent passive resistance and thereby dismantle the theo-capitalist suicide machine and create an economically sustainable and socially just Kingdom of God on Earth (aka Global Marxist Socialism) so that He/She can return, glorify us and give us all a big group hug. I believe the mysterious divine being embraces all of us in community through questions and conversations. (Answers are not needed and only impede the journey.) Homosexuality is a gift to be embraced instead of a sin to be repented of, and that there are also followers of god in the way of Allah, Buddha, and Vishnu. I believe that Love Wins and that the divine being will ultimately help us all embrace the divine spark (Imago dei) within all of us so that we can become one with the great mysterious majestic spirit and experience self-actualization, the next evolutionary leap and the life of the ages. Peace out. Namaste" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~candice~ Posted January 29, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 955 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 11,318 Content Per Day: 1.89 Reputation: 448 Days Won: 33 Joined: 12/16/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted January 29, 2012 Pass me a bucket! I'm gunna hurl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.J. Posted January 29, 2012 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 59 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/21/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/09/1967 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 I agree Candice. It seems in the effort to be "inclusive" they practice exclusiveness to the Truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted January 29, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted January 29, 2012 Yup, that about sums it up nicely from the studies I had been doing about the Emergent Church. It has not changed, just become more organized. They are trying to merge all the religions in the world into one. For years now, I had thought that this would be the religion that would threaten the Christin faith more then any other. In many ways, i still do. They will not become the militaristic religion, as in the radical Islamic religion, but more in an "all loving" way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.J. Posted January 29, 2012 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 59 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/21/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/09/1967 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 Yup, that about sums it up nicely from the studies I had been doing about the Emergent Church. It has not changed, just become more organized. They are trying to merge all the religions in the world into one. For years now, I had thought that this would be the religion that would threaten the Christin faith more then any other. In many ways, i still do. They will not become the militaristic religion, as in the radical Islamic religion, but more in an "all loving" way. Yet the only mention of love in the above creed is in reference to a book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted January 29, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted January 29, 2012 Yup, that about sums it up nicely from the studies I had been doing about the Emergent Church. It has not changed, just become more organized. They are trying to merge all the religions in the world into one. For years now, I had thought that this would be the religion that would threaten the Christin faith more then any other. In many ways, i still do. They will not become the militaristic religion, as in the radical Islamic religion, but more in an "all loving" way. Yet the only mention of love in the above creed is in reference to a book. Not really ... we read "I believe that Love Wins and that the divine being will ultimately help us all embrace the divine spark (Imago dei) within all of us so that we can become one with the great mysterious majestic spirit and experience self-actualization, the next evolutionary leap and the life of the ages." They have been on this site and many others and they approach people with "God is love and is in everyone, sinner or not". Notice the acceptance of everything that is sin, but tears apart all that goes against sin? They also don't like the "theo-capitalist suicide machine". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.J. Posted January 29, 2012 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 59 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/21/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/09/1967 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 Yup, that about sums it up nicely from the studies I had been doing about the Emergent Church. It has not changed, just become more organized. They are trying to merge all the religions in the world into one. For years now, I had thought that this would be the religion that would threaten the Christin faith more then any other. In many ways, i still do. They will not become the militaristic religion, as in the radical Islamic religion, but more in an "all loving" way. Yet the only mention of love in the above creed is in reference to a book. Not really ... we read "I believe that Love Wins and that the divine being will ultimately help us all embrace the divine spark (Imago dei) within all of us so that we can become one with the great mysterious majestic spirit and experience self-actualization, the next evolutionary leap and the life of the ages." They have been on this site and many others and they approach people with "God is love and is in everyone, sinner or not". Notice the acceptance of everything that is sin, but tears apart all that goes against sin? They also don't like the "theo-capitalist suicide machine". That's what I mean. Love Wins is a book by Rob Bell. Hence the capital letters. In their creed, that is the only reference to love. They love everybody and everything except people who take the Bible as the Word of God. While sometimes they do bring up some good points, it's usually by chance. About the same chance as a blind squirrel has to finding an acorn. To be honest, at first I was fascinated by their teachings. But the more I dug into them the more I realized that their "new conversation" was nothing more of an attack on orthodoxy than trying to find the truth. They practice the religion of Re-. Re-imagining... Re-inventing..... Re-thinking.... Re-visiting..... How about re-reading. Getting back to the Bible and practicing what it says. Not trying to evaluate it against what we experience in a fallen world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted January 29, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted January 29, 2012 They will re-read THEIR bible, as soon as they remove everything that goes against any other religion or belief. That would also include sin. There won't be much left to read! They came up on my radar as a very small blimp years ago when all the "spiritual" groups started popping up. They sounded interesting, so I started checking them out myself. It was not long before the truth of what they were all about came into light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthitjah Posted January 29, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1,285 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 17,917 Content Per Day: 2.27 Reputation: 355 Days Won: 19 Joined: 10/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted January 29, 2012 The problem for them is that they define Love. However, God is Love and comes from without the human experience. man is Loved but mankind is not Love. The Love we practice is a direct reflection of the imprint of God on our Created bodies. We cannot define it and in practice it is as marred by sin as the rest of the world unless we follow Gods Law concerning it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted January 29, 2012 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.87 Content Count: 43,799 Content Per Day: 6.19 Reputation: 11,244 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted January 29, 2012 I found this online. It is written by someone who does not like the emergent church, who has studied their beliefs, and written this up as a summation of the emergent church beliefs. It is not officially their stated creed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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