Who are you going to meet with Jesus in the air?

[Guest Bazz50]

FresnoJoe, none of those verses you quote say anything about anyone going to Heaven. Like I said, haven't you read where Jesus said the meek will inherit the Earth? Mathew 5:5

[whitetiger]

When we meet Jesus in the air who of your loved ones who has gone before will you meet in the air?

1 Thessolonians 4:13-18

3 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words

 

No one, I don't believe in the Rapture

[Guest Bazz50]

Whitetiger, the saints will meet Jesus in the sky, but that does not mean they are going to Heaven. In the Old Testament, there's a prophecy of the return of Jesus, and it tells us that Jesus will return to the very mountain He assented from, and the mountain will divide in two. Remember that an angels told Jesus' disciples that Jesus would return the same way He left? Jesus is coming back to live right here on the Earth, and the saints will be with Him.

 

Most Christians have been deceived by there Church or pastors, whom themselves are deceived......they are more loyal to Church teachings than they are to the scriptures. Very few are willing to study all the scriptures to come to a correct conclusion. But instead, they relay on a few scriptures that they have assumed say what it does not say.

[whitetiger]

As the whale said when he saw Jonah on the shore "I ain't a swallowing that"

[Guest Bazz50]

Whitetiger, not everyone can handle the truth.....a lie can be more pleasing to those who refuse the truth. The Bible say that those who don't have a love of the truth that God will cause them to believe a lie. Anyone that truly studies all the scriptures will know that what I said is the truth.

Edited June 6, 2014 by Bazz50

[Guest]

....I don't believe in the Rapture....

 

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Believe

 

For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

 

For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

 

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

 

Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17

 

Or No

 

Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

 

And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life;

 

and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. John 5:28-29

 

Beloved The Resurrection

 

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

 

But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.

 

This is the first resurrection. Revelation 20:4-5

 

Will Happen

 

And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

 

And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. Revelation 20:12-13

 

[whitetiger]

 

....I don't believe in the Rapture....

 

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Believe

 

For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

 

For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

 

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

 

Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17

 

Or No

 

Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

 

And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life;

 

and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. John 5:28-29

 

Beloved The Resurrection

 

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

 

But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.

 

This is the first resurrection. Revelation 20:4-5

 

Will Happen

 

And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

 

And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. Revelation 20:12-13

 

 

I left that silliness along time ago. I am a partial preterist and amillennialist

[Guest]

I left that silliness along time ago. I am a partial preterist and amillennialist

 

 

Be Blessed

 

Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

 

In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

 

And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. John 14:1-3

 

Beloved

 

And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, 2 Timothy 2:24

 

Love, Your Brother Joe

[whitetiger]

Oh, I do believe Christ will come back. I just don't believe in dispensationalism anymore. Here is a good explanation of my position about the rapture.

 

http://www.orthodoxresearchinstitute.org/articles/dogmatics/cozby_rapture1.htm

[OneLight]

FresnoJoe, none of those verses you quote say anything about anyone going to Heaven. Like I said, haven't you read where Jesus said the meek will inherit the Earth? Mathew 5:5

 

It is not wise to base your faith on just one verse.  Do you see anything about heaven in Matthew 5:1-12?  How about the rest of the bible?