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:) By Faith ENOCH......

Hi,everybody,

may our Lord Jesus Christ bless us all,and I pray that this post will be a source of encouragement for everybody...ok,here is my thought:

"By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death;and was not found,because God translated him:for before his translation he had this testimony,that he pleased God."(hebrews 11:5)(kjv)

First of all from the Bible we know that:" Enoch also,the seventh from Adam,prophesied of these,saying,Behold,the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,to execute judgment upon all,..."(Jude verse:14)(Kjv)......

So,we see that Enoch was a prophet,and he was the seventh from Adam,and he preached future judgment on the ungodly and he himself was translated not to see death...WOW

What a great picture of the future...

A prophet (makes me think collectively of the church)prophesying JUDGMENT of GOD on the ungodly.....and he(the church) gets translated( another term for raptured),BEFORE the judgment (the flood at Enoch's time) ,The GREAT TRIBULATION in our days...and now as then TO PLEASE GOD is BY FAITH...

Well,at this point it is clear that I believe in a pretribulation rapture( trans-lation) of the church( meaning the body of Christ,the saved by grace by His blood) and that is BY FAITH alone that we are saved ,believing in THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.

But,one would say,he was preaching judgment on the ungodly...are we as church supposed to preach GRACE and PARDON in CHRIST?

YES,and that we do...in the power of HIS SPIRIT ,we do preach the GOSPEL of GRACE,but as we all know,if people DON'T receive Jesus Christ to be saved,they stay LOST( because that is the condition of someone that is outside CHRIST)and so they will incurr in God's WRATH.....it makes soooooo very sad that someone would reject Christ....but we know that happens......so, an encouragment for me and fellow believers to pray and preach and watch 'cause we surely don't know the day or the hour but HE said TO WATCH and PRAY and TO PREACH THE WORD of HIS GRACE ...but also to WARN the ungodly that judgment is coming.....

Ok,this is my post...I hope I haven't offended anyone...and I would like to see your opinions ...

MARANATHA! :)


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Well, you haven't offended me, jc. Good post! I hadn't thought of Enoch as a type for the Church but I think you have picked up on something.

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Well, you haven't offended me, jc. Good post! I hadn't thought of Enoch as a type for the Church but I think you have picked up on something.

:duh: Praise God,brother...

I get a great spin in the Spirit when I consider that in the book of Genesis we have His plan of redemption outlined and then He expands it more and more through the other 65 books..What a GREAT AWESOME GOD we have the privilege to serve and worship!

Read this and see if you get blessed,I sure did!:

A Personal UPDATE Article

A Hidden Message

The Gospel in Genesis

by Chuck Missler

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Note: Due to the unusual interest in this article, it has been reprinted and revised to respond to your many inquiries.

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We frequently use the familiar term, gospel, or good news. Where is the first place it appears in the Bible? The answer may surprise you.

An Integrated Message

The great discovery is that the Bible is a message system: it's not simply 66 books penned by 40 authors over thousands of years, the Bible is an integrated whole which bears evidence of supernatural engineering in every detail.

The Jewish rabbis have a quaint way of expressing this very idea: they say that they will not understand the Scriptures until the Messiah comes. But when He comes, He will not only interpret each of the passages for us, He will interpret the very words; He will even interpret the very letters themselves; in fact, He will even interpret the spaces between the letters!

When I first heard this, I simply dismissed this as a colorful exaggeration. Until I reread Matthew 5:17 and 18:

"Think not that I have come to destroy the Torah and the prophets; I have not come to destroy but to fulfill.

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

(A jot and tittle are the Hebrew equivalent of our dotting an i and the crossing of a t.)

An Example

A remarkable example of this can be glimpsed in Genesis Chapter 5, where we have the genealogy of Adam through Noah. This is one of those chapters which we often tend to skim over quickly as we pass through Genesis it's simply a genealogy from Adam to Noah.

But God always rewards the diligent student. Let's examine this chapter more closely.

In our Bible, we read the Hebrew names. What do these names mean in English?

A Study of Original Roots

The meaning of proper names can be a difficult pursuit since a direct translation is often not readily available. Even a conventional Hebrew lexicon can prove disappointing. A study of the original roots, however, can yield some fascinating insights.

(A caveat: many study aids, such as a conventional lexicon, can prove rather superficial when dealing with proper nouns. Furthermore, views concerning the meanings of original roots are not free of controversy and variant readings.)

Let s take an example.

The Flood Judgment

Methuselah comes from muth, a root that means "death";(1) and from shalach, which means to bring, or to send forth. The name Methuselah means, "his death shall bring".(2)

Methuselah's father was given a prophecy of the coming Great Flood, and was apparently told that as long as his son was alive, the judgment of the flood would be withheld; but as soon as he died, the flood would be brought or sent forth.

(Can you imagine raising a kid like that? Every time the boy caught a cold, the entire neighborhood must have panicked!)

And, indeed, the year that Methuselah died, the flood came.(3)

It is interesting that Methuselah's life, in effect, was a symbol of God's mercy in forestalling the coming judgment of the flood.

Therefore, it is fitting that his lifetime is the oldest in the Bible, speaking of the extensiveness of God's mercy.

The Other Names

If there is such significance in Methuselah's name, let's examine the other names to see what may lie behind them.

Adam's name means man. As the first man, that seems straight forward enough.

Seth

Adam's son was named Seth, which means appointed. Eve said, "For God hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew."(4)

Enosh

Seth's son was called Enosh, which means mortal, frail, or miserable. It is from the root anash, to be incurable, used of a wound, grief, woe, sickness, or wickedness.

It was in the days of Enosh that men began to defile the name of the Living God.(5)

Kenan

Enosh's son was named Kenan, which can mean sorrow, dirge, or elegy. (The precise denotation is somewhat elusive; some study aids unfortunately presume that Kenan is synonymous with Cainan.)

Balaam, looking down from the heights of Moab, uses a pun upon the name of the Kenites when he prophesies their destruction.(6)

We have no real idea as to why these names were chosen for their children. Often they may have referred to circumstances at birth, and so on.

Mahalalel

Kenan's son was Mahalalel, from Mahalal which means blessed or praise; and El, the name for God. Thus, Mahalalel means the Blessed God. Often Hebrew names include El, the name of God, as Dan-i-el, "God is my Judge", etc.

Jared

Mahalalel's son was named Jared, from the verb yaradh, meaning shall come down.(7)

Enoch

Jared's son was named Enoch, which means teaching, or commencement. He was the first of four generations of preachers. In fact, the earliest recorded prophecy was by Enoch, which amazingly enough deals with the Second Coming of Christ (although it is quoted in the Book of Jude in the New Testament):

Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, "Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against."

Jude 14, 15

Methuselah

Enoch was the father of Methuselah, who we have already mentioned. Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah.(8) Apparently, Enoch received the prophecy of the Great Flood, and was told that as long as his son was alive, the judgment of the flood would be withheld. The year that Methuselah died, the flood came.

Enoch, of course, never died: he was translated (9) (or, if you'll excuse the expression, raptured ). That s how Methuselah can be the oldest man in the Bible, yet he died before his father!

Lamech

Methuselah's son was named Lamech, a root still evident today in our own English word, lament or lamentation. Lamech suggests despairing.

(This name is also linked to the Lamech in Cain's line who inadvertently killed his son Tubal-Cain in a hunting incident.(10))

Noah

Lamech, of course, is the father of Noah, which is derived from nacham, to bring relief or comfort, as Lamech himself explains in Genesis 5:29.

The Composite List

Now let's put it all together:

Hebrew English

Adam Man

Seth Appointed

Enosh Mortal

Kenan Sorrow;

Mahalalel The Blessed God

Jared Shall come down

Enoch Teaching

Methuselah His death shall bring

Lamech The Despairing

Noah Rest, or comfort.

That's rather remarkable:

Man (is) appointed mortal sorrow; (but) the Blessed God shall come down teaching (that) His death shall bring (the) despairing rest.

Here's the Gospel hidden within a genealogy in Genesis!

(You will never convince me that a group of Jewish rabbis conspired to hide the Christian Gospel right here in a genealogy within their venerated Torah!)

Evidence of Design

The implications of this discovery are more wide spread than is evident at first glance.

It demonstrates that in the earliest chapters of the Book of Genesis, God had already laid out His plan of redemption for the predicament of mankind. It is a love story, written in blood on a wooden cross which was erected in Judea almost 2,000 years ago.

The Bible is an integrated message system, the product of supernatural engineering. Every number, every place name, every detail every jot and tittle is there for our learning, our discovery, and our amazement. Truly, our God is an awesome God.

It is astonishing to discover how many Biblical controversies seem to evaporate if one simply recognized the unity the integrity of these 66 books, penned by 40 authors over thousands of years.

It is remarkable how many subtle discoveries lie behind the little details of the text. Some of these become immediately obvious with a little study; some are more technical and require special helps.

Many of these discoveries are described in our Briefing Package, Beyond Coincidence. Several are also highlighted in our recent book, The Creator Beyond Time and Space.

Look behind every detail: there's a discovery to be made! God always rewards the diligent student. What other messages lay hidden behind the names in the Bible? Check it out.

For more papers on this and other related subjects;

Go back to the Main Page (The Triunity Report)

Notes:

Muth, death, occurs 125 times in the Old Testament.

See Pink, Jones, and Stedman in the bibliography.

Methuselah was 187 when he had Lamech, and lived 782 years more. Lamech had Noah when he was 182 (Genesis 5:25-28). The Flood came in Noah's 600th year (Genesis 7:6, 11). 600 + 182 = 782nd year of Lamech, the year Methuselah died.

Genesis 4:25.

Genesis 4:26 is often mistranslated. Targum of Onkelos: ...desisted from praying in the name ; Targum of Jonathan: surnamed their idols in the name... ; Kimchi, Rashi, and other ancient Jewish commentators agree. Jerome indicated that this was the opinion of many Jews of his day. Maimonides, Commentary on the Mishna (a constituent part of the Talmud), a.d. 1168, ascribes the origin of idolatry to the days of Enosh.

Numbers 24:21, 23.

Some authorities suggest that this might be an allusion to the Sons of God who came down to corrupt the daughters of men, resulting in the Nephilim (Fallen Ones) of Genesis 6. These were discussed in our article last month (January 1996), and are also reviewed in our briefing package, The Flood of Noah.

Genesis 5:21, 24.

Genesis 5:24.

Genesis 4:19-25; rabbinical sources, re: Kaplan, et al.

Bibliography:

Eastman, Mark, and Missler, Chuck, The Creator Beyond Time and Space, The Word for Today, Costa Mesa CA, 1995.

Jones, Alfred, Dictionary of Old Testament Proper Names, Kregel Publications, Grand Rapids MI, 1990.

Kaplan, Rabbi Aryeh, The Living Torah, Maznaim Publishing Corporation, Jerusalem, 1981.

Pink, Arthur W., Gleanings in Genesis, Moody Bible Institute, Chicago IL, 1922.

Missler, Chuck, Beyond Coincidence (audio briefing package with notes), Koinonia House, Coeur d Alene ID, 83816, 1994.

Rosenbaum, M., and Silbermann, A., Pentateuch with Onkelos's Translation (into Aramaic) and Rashi s Commentary, Silbermann Family Publishers, Jerusalem, 1973.

Stedman, Ray C., The Beginnings, Word Books, Waco TX, 1978.

This article was first published in the February 1996 edition of Personal UPDATE

Copyright © 1996 by Koinonia House Inc., P.O. Box D, Coeur d'Alene, ID 83816-0347

For more papers on this and other related subjects;

Go back to the Main Page (The Triunity Report)

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Greetings JC49,

A parallel to the last days before Christ's return is the story of Moses and the delivery from Egypt. While there, the Hebrews went THROUGH all the tribulations the Egyptians went through, except they were kept safe, and when the death angel moved over Egypt, they were kept safe "by the blood".

Then upon their deliverance across the Red Sea, the Egyptians were destroyed with the very vehicle of the Hebrew's deliverance. Sure sounds like the Lord's coming to me.

Blessings,

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