Bold Believer Posted July 24, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,931 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 126 Days Won: 8 Joined: 01/22/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/13/1955 Share Posted July 24, 2012 This is so simple, I can't understand for the life of me why no one 'gets' it. CORPORATE JUDGMENT. The Church as a a WHOLE judges those within. Individuals don't pass arbitrary judgments on other individuals. Those outside are ALREADY condemned, so if you tell them that, you aren't judging them, but informing them of the already decreed judgment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherSinner Posted July 24, 2012 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 47 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 628 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 94 Days Won: 5 Joined: 03/13/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1984 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Could be wrong...but believe that scripture tells us to judge sin within the church. More or less that we are to work to keep it out not so much by casting stones, but rather by dealing with the sin privately as well as directly. Only upon the brother's or sister's refusal to be rebuked to then be withdrawn from the church. Otherwise have not seen any scripture condoning any form of judgement...as there is not one of us without sin. Does this mean that I personally do not judge my neighbor...? No, it is something I struggle with. Especially when wronged by loved ones. It is something too that likely many of us struggle with and need to seek God's guidance as well as look to Jesus as the primary example of how to deal with judgement. Just my thoughts.... Just Another Sinner Without A Clue Dani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdemoss Posted July 24, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,402 Content Per Day: 0.98 Reputation: 2,154 Days Won: 28 Joined: 02/10/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/26/1971 Share Posted July 24, 2012 But who do you say it is? No answer man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xero Posted July 25, 2012 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 365 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 90 Days Won: 6 Joined: 03/16/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2012 Matthew 7:12 "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest man Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 But who do you say it is? No answer man? 2 Timothy 2 20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay, some for honor and some for dishonor. 21 Therefore if anyone cleanses himself from the latter, he will be a vessel for honor, sanctified and useful for the Master, prepared for every good work. 22 Flee also youthful lusts; but pursue righteousness, faith, love, peace with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart. 23 But avoid foolish and ignorant disputes, knowing that they generate strife. 24 And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, 25 in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth, 26 and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdemoss Posted July 25, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,402 Content Per Day: 0.98 Reputation: 2,154 Days Won: 28 Joined: 02/10/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/26/1971 Share Posted July 25, 2012 But who do you say it is? No answer man? 2 Timothy 2 20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay, some for honor and some for dishonor. 21 Therefore if anyone cleanses himself from the latter, he will be a vessel for honor, sanctified and useful for the Master, prepared for every good work. 22 Flee also youthful lusts; but pursue righteousness, faith, love, peace with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart. 23 But avoid foolish and ignorant disputes, knowing that they generate strife. 24 And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, 25 in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth, 26 and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will. Excellent choice man. I see the two points above. We merely give truth. People must accept and then remove the mote themselves. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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