The Jewish Voice Ministries

[JohnD]

Anybody heard of this ministry?

http://www.jewishvoice.org/media/television-show/monthly-webcast.html

[Guest]

Anybody heard of this ministry?

http://www.jewishvoice.org/media/television-show/monthly-webcast.html'>http://www.jewishvoice.org/media/television-show/monthly-webcast.html

http://www.jewishvoice.org/

Amen~!

How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth! Isaiah 52:7

Jonathan Bernis Is Another One Of Those Gifts From The LORD To Both The Jew And The Gentile

And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! Romans 10:15

Thanks For Bringing Up This Dear Ministry

[Guest]

Yes, they are a pretty standard Jewish Christian group that has a strong belief that modern Israel is as sacred as the past. They seem to have a charitable side-ministry of helping elderly Jewish people in Israel (I don't know if that means destitute immigrants from European countries where they don't feel welcome). I usually find that the handling of OT Scripture is done without much awareness of substantial claims by the NT....

Substantial Promises, For Sure~!

NT - Amen~!

For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead? Romans 11:15

OT - And Amen~!

Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about. Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great. Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.

The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.

The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel. So shall ye know that I am the LORD your God dwelling in Zion, my holy mountain: then shall Jerusalem be holy, and there shall no strangers pass through her any more.

And it shall come to pass in that day, that the mountains shall drop down new wine, and the hills shall flow with milk, and all the rivers of Judah shall flow with waters, and a fountain shall come forth of the house of the LORD, and shall water the valley of Shittim. Joel 3:13-18

NT - And Amen~!

And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. Revelation 19:11-18

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Israel IS The Inheritance Of The LORD Jesus

Thou shalt bring them in, and plant them in the mountain of thine inheritance, in the place, O LORD, which thou hast made for thee to dwell in, in the Sanctuary, O Lord, which thy hands have established. The LORD shall reign for ever and ever. Exodus 15:17-18

And All The Powers Of Satan And Men Combined Will Not Deny God Almighty Jesus, His Heritage

And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints. Revelation 15:3

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PS: (IMO) If All You Got Is The Second Testament Of Jesus And You Refuse To Believe It

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Matthew 5:18

You Are A Poor Sad Sad Man

And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God. Luke 4:4

Indeed

Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. John 5:39

[JohnD]

Amen!

[Guest]

Who Thinks They Will Deny Jesus His Israel, His Jews

Thou shalt bring them in, and plant them in the mountain of thine inheritance, in the place, O LORD, which thou hast made for thee to dwell in, in the Sanctuary, O Lord, which thy hands have established. The LORD shall reign for ever and ever. Exodus 15:17-18

The Inheritance Of The LORD

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A little note for Joe on Rom. 11:15. "the receiving of" is an old English way of putting things. Paul meant their reception of the Gospel, not a reception of them (apart from that)....

Dear One It Is So Unwise To "Try" To Change The Meaning Of God's Words In Romans 11:15

For if their rejection is the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? (NIV)

For if their rejection is the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? (NASB)

For if their rejection was the reconciliation for the world, how much greater therefore is their return, if not life from the dead? (Aramaic Bible In Plain English)

For if the rejection of them is the reconciling of the world, what would their acceptance be, but life from the dead? (World English Bible)

And Because The KJV Was My Reading Primer From 1948 Onward

For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead? Romans 11:15

I Find The Language Of Shakespeare Stands Clear

And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. Romans 11:26-29

And As For Those Who Would Claim The Messiah Of Israel

For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree? For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: Romans 11:24-26

But Who Will Fail To Stand With Israel, With The Jew Through Their Time Of Travail

In the day that thou stoodest on the other side, in the day that the strangers carried away captive his forces, and foreigners entered into his gates, and castlots upon Jerusalem, even thou wast as one of them. Obadiah 1:11

Do Know It's Happened Before With Their Relatives And Even Then (In The Good Old Days) It Still Was Unwise

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God Bless

Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep. Psalms 121:4

Israel

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee. Psalms 122:4

And I'm So

Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God. Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the LORD's hand double for all her sins. Isaiah 40:1-2

In Love With Her KING

[JohnD]

Preterists are unaware how much their heretical beliefs contaminate all things they believe.

And they will make statements against the Jews and at the same time think they are not antisemitic or replacement theology based.

[Guest]

Preterists are unaware how much their heretical beliefs contaminate all things they believe.

And they will make statements against the Jews and at the same time think they are not antisemitic or replacement theology based....

The Replacement Theologian (And The Islamic, The Anti-Semitic, Etc.) Think To Scripturally Deny The Jew His Messiah

And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: Romans 11:26

When In Fact They Would Deny The WORD (The Christ) His Heritage

I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land. Joel 3:2

Now That's Some Sad Fellows

Yea, hath God said Genesis 3:1{c}

Indeed~!

[JohnD]

Romans 11:28 (KJV)

28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers’ sakes.

The Prodigal son's father did not give up on him and did not delight in his alienation and did not reject the return of the Prodigal son.

Psalm 122:6 (KJV)

6 Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee.

Ephesians 2:14 (KJV)

14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;