soulwinner Posted October 27, 2004 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 318 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/16/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted October 27, 2004 I was saved in 1997 I remember a few months after coming to know the Lord, I read an article that the Jews believed their messiah was coming to be born sometime very soon because they saw a new star appear that they believed was a precursor to his coming! Has anyone else heard about this or remember this, I know this is going back awhile but made me think if their messiah the ac was born around 1997 he would be a child and we would at least have another 20 years before the rapture if that's the case. I do happen to believe the ac is alive now. Im wondering what everyone else's thoughts are? 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; According to this verse won't we know who he is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero's Fiddle Posted October 27, 2004 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 328 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/25/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted October 27, 2004 First of all, the "that day" referred to is not the rapture, but rather the tribulation. Secondly, even if the ac is only a child, that puts no limits on the rapture. We could be raptured 100 years before the trib, for all we know! I doubt it will be that long, as all the pieces are in place for the tribulation to begin any time now. The clock hand is so close to midnight, it has practically stopped ticking! One little nudge (the rapture) could very well get it going. I do not remember this event, but I do not believe it necessarily means that anichrist was only born in the 90's! The Jews are going to have to overlook a bunch of other facts and inaccuracies to accept antichrist anyway. NF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneB Posted October 27, 2004 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 4 Topic Count: 232 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 7,261 Content Per Day: 0.96 Reputation: 79 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/19/1959 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Hey soulwinner, Bless you! Never heard of it but I am a little confused by your question. What could be the connection between the false belief among some Jews that the Messiah was born in 1997 and the timing of the rapture, a future event prophesized in Scripture? Jesus the Messiah will not return as a child regardless of what Judaism teaches so therefore the "timing" of a 2nd birth (they believe it is the 1st of coarse) that we know never took place (since the one and only birth of the Messiah took place 2000 years ago) is really unimportant as it relates to future prophetic events. "This will happen when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in blazing fire with his powerful angels.'" 2 Thessalonians 1:7b I am not challenging your question. Just a little confused as to the alledged connection between a misunderstanding and a true future event? Be Blessed, Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneB Posted October 27, 2004 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 4 Topic Count: 232 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 7,261 Content Per Day: 0.96 Reputation: 79 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/19/1959 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Sorry brother... Nero clarified your point in his post. I never heard though of an association between the Jewish belief of the recent birth of the Messiah and the anti-christ. Where does this come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero's Fiddle Posted October 27, 2004 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 328 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/25/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted October 27, 2004 Sorry brother... Nero clarified your point in his post. I never heard though of an association between the Jewish belief of the recent birth of the Messiah and the anti-christ. Where does this come from? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's "her" post, thank you very much. I think that soulie was thinking that, in order for the Jews to accept antichrist as a Messianic-type figure, he would have to be born under (a forgery of) the circumstances reserved for the birth of Messiah. Of course, Jesus fulfilled all the circumstances reserved for the birth of the Messiah perfectly and truly, and they didn't exactly throw a party for Him. NF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted October 27, 2004 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,221 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,945 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted October 27, 2004 I think the "his-her" thing is going to get worse. I have not found the gender listing on the new software. Maybe I am just a dunce..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulwinner Posted October 27, 2004 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 318 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/16/2004 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 27, 2004 I am a little confused by your question. What could be the connection between the false belief among some Jews that the Messiah was born in 1997 and the timing of the rapture, a future event prophesized in Scripture? well if these jews were looking for their messiah which will be the ac and in fact if this star was there which would kind of make sense because satan I believe tries to immitate the things of God. The ac cant come into power as a teenager or child so then the rapture would still be a little ways off right? Hope that makes more sense. If not let me know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneB Posted October 28, 2004 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 4 Topic Count: 232 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 7,261 Content Per Day: 0.96 Reputation: 79 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/19/1959 Share Posted October 28, 2004 I see now. I'm just a bit slowwwww. A guy thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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