webb Posted December 24, 2012 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 75 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/19/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted December 24, 2012 Hi Enoob57 You did not answer my response to yours on Rom.4:3. I referred back to the context in chapter 3. Is it possible you can do that? It will be appreciated. In defense of your "faith alone" theory you cited Acts 16:30,31, Acts 8:36,37 and Acts 10:43. Yet none of those read "faith alone". My response was to ask you if the word "faith" or "believe" in each passage was inclusive or exclusive. You did not answer, so I ask you again, are the passages you proposed in the above inclusive or exclusive when using the words "faith" or "believe"? In your last response you added 2 more passages: Romans 3:25 and I Peter 1:5. As with those above, I ask you the same question: Is the word "faith" in such passages inclusive or exclusive? As with my previous response, I await your answer. BTW, the very fact that you use the term "faith alone" suggests you believe its exclusive,but I want you to answer that for clearification. As for Hebrews 11, please note that when ones faith and blessing are mentioned their faith in each instance had to act in order to the blessing. God bless, Webb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webb Posted December 24, 2012 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 75 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/19/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted December 24, 2012 Of course OT saints were saved by their faith, thats the point of Heb.11. The question is was their faith an exclusive or inclusive faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webb Posted December 24, 2012 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 75 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/19/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted December 24, 2012 Hi Shiloh357 Regarding your post #62 you seem to feel that its wrong to answer scripture with scripture. Allow me to remind you that at Jesus' temptation Satan quoted scripture to Jesus and Jesus refuted Satan by answering with scripture. Of course, Satan mishandled the scripture and Jesus refuted it with scripture. NOW, if you believe I mishandled scripture you are at charge to refute with scripture showing me to be in error. You have not done so, only answering with your own mere words. You are invited to show my position wrong by using scipture. Until so, your words are not sufficient nor are they authoritative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted December 24, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted December 24, 2012 Hi Shiloh357 Regarding your post #62 you seem to feel that its wrong to answer scripture with scripture. Allow me to remind you that at Jesus' temptation Satan quoted scripture to Jesus and Jesus refuted Satan by answering with scripture. Of course, Satan mishandled the scripture and Jesus refuted it with scripture. NOW, if you believe I mishandled scripture you are at charge to refute with scripture showing me to be in error. You have not done so, only answering with your own mere words. You are invited to show my position wrong by using scipture. Until so, your words are not sufficient nor are they authoritative. If I may, why not discuss the scripture you provided like your brother has suggested? His argument is with your understanding, not scripture itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webb Posted December 25, 2012 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 75 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/19/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted December 25, 2012 Onelight, in response to your post #66. I shall be most happy to reply to the gentleman when he can show in the scripture my error (?). Perhaps you can try if he cannot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderJ Posted December 25, 2012 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 195 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 24 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/10/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1993 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Onelight, in response to your post #66. I shall be most happy to reply to the gentleman when he can show in the scripture my error (?). Perhaps you can try if he cannot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted December 25, 2012 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,341 Content Per Day: 7.99 Reputation: 21,539 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Hi Enoob57 You did not answer my response to yours on Rom.4:3. I referred back to the context in chapter 3. Is it possible you can do that? It will be appreciated. In defense of your "faith alone" theory you cited Acts 16:30,31, Acts 8:36,37 and Acts 10:43. Yet none of those read "faith alone". My response was to ask you if the word "faith" or "believe" in each passage was inclusive or exclusive. You did not answer, so I ask you again, are the passages you proposed in the above inclusive or exclusive when using the words "faith" or "believe"? In your last response you added 2 more passages: Romans 3:25 and I Peter 1:5. As with those above, I ask you the same question: Is the word "faith" in such passages inclusive or exclusive? As with my previous response, I await your answer. BTW, the very fact that you use the term "faith alone" suggests you believe its exclusive,but I want you to answer that for clearification. As for Hebrews 11, please note that when ones faith and blessing are mentioned their faith in each instance had to act in order to the blessing. God bless, Webb gee I would like to play as your puppet as you seem to enjoy pulling strings but alas I give my controls to The Lord I have already given that answer in my statement... you seem to be on an agenda! I have my faith that transports me into a personal relationship with The Lord. You evidently by your opposition have something else... Faith alone in His mercy through His death, burial and resurrection lies the tenant of my Salvation In Christ... Love, Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted December 25, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted December 25, 2012 Onelight, in response to your post #66. I shall be most happy to reply to the gentleman when he can show in the scripture my error (?). Perhaps you can try if he cannot. Finger back through the posts where Shiloh questioned your posts and discuss it with him. I am sure you can find them, they are obvious. I would start on page one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webb Posted December 26, 2012 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 75 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/19/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted December 26, 2012 Hi Enoob57, in response to your post #69, is it your agenda not to answer questions? I Pet.3:15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderJ Posted December 26, 2012 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 195 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 24 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/10/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1993 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Hi Enoob57, in response to your post #69, is it your agenda not to answer questions? I Pet.3:15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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