amor Posted October 30, 2004 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,194 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/18/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted October 30, 2004 (edited) In the early eighties when facing an uprising in the Sunni city of Hama President Assad of Syria sent in the military to bomb and shell the place to rubble and reduce its population to carrion. In the same decade Saddam again facing a hostile Kurdish population chose to gas the population. Now in the 2004 and Bush and Blair, again facing a population that is resisting their well laid plans are about to engage in a similar action. Are all you "hawks" out there happy with this? Are you able to give, a Christian explanation as to how such an attack can be justified, and how it differs from these earlier crimes? Can you also give a justification for that obscene "Oh dude tape"? Edited October 30, 2004 by amor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yod Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 You are blind....and willfully so. The murderers and terrorists of those cities who have been beheading people and dragging their burnt bodies through the streets of Fallujah have been given many opportunities to surrender PEACEFULLY and have a place in the government of Iraq. Instead they choose more blood. I'm not happy about the prospect of anyone dying in a war...but they asked for it....and they will get it. They BETTER get the message. When THEY stop hiding behind the skirts of women then no innocent people will have to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherTraveler Posted October 30, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 80 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,595 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/12/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted October 30, 2004 Like yod said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yod Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041030/D861U0S00.html If we wanted to level Fallujah it would be ashes already. Instead, we are taking it one block at a time at great risk to our soldiers in order to protect and save as many innocent people as we can. They might be about to find two or three.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amor Posted October 31, 2004 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,194 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/18/2004 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 31, 2004 (edited) You are blind....and willfully so. The murderers and terrorists of those cities who have been beheading people and dragging their burnt bodies through the streets of Fallujah have been given many opportunities to surrender PEACEFULLY and have a place in the government of Iraq. Instead they choose more blood. I'm not happy about the prospect of anyone dying in a war...but they asked for it....and they will get it. They BETTER get the message. When THEY stop hiding behind the skirts of women then no innocent people will have to die. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They asked for it? The entire population of the city? Did the people of Halajba and Hama also "ask for it"? ,Did the tens quite possibly hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilian dead "ask for it"? Did the three thousand dead on September the eleventh "ask for it" or to use your terminology "get the message"? Bush and Blair seem to see sending messages in much the Same way as Bin Ladin, murdering the poor and weak as a way of communicating to the powerful. Edited October 31, 2004 by amor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yod Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 They asked for it? The entire population of the city? In fact they did. Did you not see the celebration when 4 American contractors were burned in their truck and their bodies dragged through the streets and hanged? Our military could have wiped them out like the cockroaches they are when we surrounded the city. Instead, we allowed former Saddam loyalists to "negotiate" a peace with them....and what did we get? MORE VIOLENCE against our troops. What do you think they are trying to tell us? They are asking for a fight....and we are going to give it to them. We have allowed EVERY civilian who wants to leave the city safe passage out. Anyone who remains knows exactly what to expect. Did the people of Halajba and Hama also "ask for it"? ,Did the tens quite possibly hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilian dead "ask for it"? No...but they were massacred by the human refuse we just rid them of. There was no opportunity for innocent people to escape. It is dishonest of you to make a moral equivalent. Did the three thousand dead on September the eleventh "ask for it" or to use your terminology "get the message"? Yes, they did! We are responding to the question now. Bush and Blair seem to see sending messages in much the Same way as Bin Ladin, murdering the poor and weak as a way of communicating to the powerful. That statement only reveals your blindness to the difference between what is right and what is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Posted October 31, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 115 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 8,281 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 249 Days Won: 3 Joined: 03/03/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/30/1955 Share Posted October 31, 2004 Amor: Your inability to see the difference between the deliberate murder of a civilian population in peacetime, with the accidental deaths of civilians in war, indicates a moral sense so truncated it is difficult to imagine you are sapient, much less lucid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amor Posted November 1, 2004 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,194 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/18/2004 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 1, 2004 Amor:Â Your inability to see the difference between the deliberate murder of a civilian population in peacetime, with the accidental deaths of civilians in war, indicates a moral sense so truncated it is difficult to imagine you are sapient, much less lucid. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Murdering large numbers of people, and in particular non-combattants in the pursuance of a political cause, is immoral at anytime. Just because some politicians decide to declare this "war time" or "peace time" makes no difference to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Posted November 1, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 115 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 8,281 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 249 Days Won: 3 Joined: 03/03/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/30/1955 Share Posted November 1, 2004 You obviously have no idea what 'murder' means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amor Posted November 1, 2004 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,194 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/18/2004 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 1, 2004 They asked for it? The entire population of the city? In fact they did. Did you not see the celebration when 4 American contractors were burned in their truck and their bodies dragged through the streets and hanged? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> These "contractors" were military people working for a private company employed by the American government. See here, mercenaries if you want to use a more old fashioned, if less politically correct term. They were people who chose to go to Fallujah knowing the risks they took, and received ample compensation for taking those risks. They were combattants not civilians. That does not justify their lynching, but that lynching does not justify the indiscriminate murder of the local civilian population - bombs and missiles, however "intelligent" are not, in reality, capable of telling the difference between their civilian and non-civilian victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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