Is it possible to be a Saint AND a Sinner?

[BlessedByTheBest]

   

 

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[enoob57]

Yes

1Cor 5:1-5

[The_Patriot21]

We (Christians) are all by definition saints and sinners. We have all sinned (romans 3:23) we have also accepted Christ's free gift and are Christians (romans 6:23) and all Christians are saints (romans 1:7) so by definition all Christians are saints and sinners.

[CAP73]

David.

[Guest]

Yes

 

If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
 

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
 

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
 

If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1 John 1:6-10

[Guest]

David.

 

Amen~!

[nebula]

Well, first we need to understand what the word "saint" is. Rather, we should refer back to the word Paul wrote that has been translated as "saint."

 

 

Here is an interesting perspective:

http://biblesuite.com/greek/40.htm

 

The fundamental (core) meaning of 40 (hágios) is "different" – thus a temple in the 1st century was hagios ("holy") because different from other buildings (Wm. Barclay).

 

 

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So then we must ask what is meant by "sinner".

 

Do you mean someone who sins? Who struggles with sin?

 

Or do you mean someone who is unredeemed?

[Guest]

We (Christians) are all by definition saints and sinners. We have all sinned (romans 3:23) we have also accepted Christ's free gift and are Christians (romans 6:23) and all Christians are saints (romans 1:7) so by definition all Christians are saints and sinners.

 

Amen~!

[Guest]

Yes

1Cor 5:1-5

 

It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.

And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.

For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed,

In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,

To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. 1 Corinthians 5:1-5

[BlessedByTheBest]

Well, first we need to understand what the word "saint" is. Rather, we should refer back to the word Paul wrote that has been translated as "saint."

 

 

Here is an interesting perspective:

http://biblesuite.com/greek/40.htm

 

The fundamental (core) meaning of 40 (hágios) is "different" – thus a temple in the 1st century was hagios ("holy") because different from other buildings (Wm. Barclay).

 

 

~~

 

So then we must ask what is meant by "sinner".

 

Do you mean someone who sins? Who struggles with sin?

 

Or do you mean someone who is unredeemed?

 

hi nebula

 

i like word studies

if we were to follow the law of first mention, we would look to Psalm 106:16

 

Psa 106:16  They envied H7065 Moses H4872 also in the camp, H4264 and Aaron H175 the saint H6918 of the LORD. H3068 

 

H6918

קדשׁ    קדושׁ

qâdôsh  qâdôsh

kaw-doshe', kaw-doshe'

From H6942; sacred (ceremonially or morally); (as noun) God (by eminence), an angel, a saint, a sanctuary: - holy (One), saint.

 

which stems from:

 

H6942

קדשׁ

qâdash

kaw-dash'

A primitive root; to be (causatively make, pronounce or observe as) clean (ceremonially or morally): - appoint, bid, consecrate, dedicate, defile, hallow, (be, keep) holy (-er, place), keep, prepare, proclaim, purify, sanctify (-ied one, self), X wholly.

 

 

just some food for thought in comparison to G40.

 

G40

ἅγιος

hagios

hag'-ee-os

From ἅγος hagos (an awful thing) compare G53, [H2282]; sacred (physically pure, morally blameless or religious, ceremonially consecrated): - (most) holy (one, thing), saint.

 

compared to:

 

G53

ἁγνός

hagnos

hag-nos'

From the same as G40; properly clean, that is, (figuratively) innocent, modest, perfect: - chaste, clean, pure.

 

 

and then there is sinner:

 

Pro 11:31  Behold, H2005 the righteous H6662 shall be recompensed H7999 in the earth: H776 much more H637 H3588 the wicked H7563 and the sinner. H2398 

 

H2398

חטא

châṭâ'

khaw-taw'

A primitive root; properly to miss; hence (figuratively and generally) to sin; by inference to forfeit, lack, expiate, repent, (causatively) lead astray, condemn: - bear the blame, cleanse, commit [sin], by fault, harm he hath done, loss, miss, (make) offend (-er), offer for sin, purge, purify (self), make reconciliation, (cause, make) sin (-ful, -ness), trespassive

 

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so a saint is sacred or clean or pure

 

a sinner is one who misses the mark, or bears the blame, or trespasses.

 

 

as i see it, we will all sin until fully redeemed soul, spirit, and body.

but we are also considered saints by the righteousness imputed to us by faith in Christ.

 

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