Who are the remnants?

[rollinTHUNDER]

 

 

 

 

Who are the end time remnants? Who are those called from the world unto Christ during these last days?

Hi kingdomwitness,I believe there will be two end-time remnants. The first group will be the one-third remnant in Israel that will flee to the mountains when they witness the abomination of desolation. They will be protected, and so will those gentiles who survive until the second coming. These are the sheep that will be separated from the goats and enter into the millennial kingdom. Both of these groups will be ruled over by Christ and His returning saints.Hope this helps.Cheers

 

This last group you referenced did not take the mark of the beast and somehow we're not killed. I'm not sure what they did to escape persecution, but I'm sure there will be many people who do not choose to follow the A/C after he does his abomination thing. If there wasn't, we'd have no sheep at the sheep and goats judgment.

 

 

I believe you are correct.  Many, if not most of this remnant will be those who fall away and depart the faith.  These will want to die, but death will flee from them.  This happens after the first resurrection ends, when the last martyr is killed.  God must protect them through His wrath not because of their unfaithfulness, but because of His faithfulness.  If they were to die at this point, the only resurrection left would be the second resurrection that is reserved for the unrighteous unbelievers 1000 years later.  So God must keep His promise, since they accepted His Son once upon a time.  However, they are no longer part of the Church that will return with Christ, but they still belong to Him.  Instead they will be ruled over by Christ and His saints. I believe this is what it means in the parables where the unprofitable or lazy servants are cast into the outer darkness, (out of the kingdom and back into the dark world, where Satan is the prince).

 

Great stuff thunder. I've been playing with this for a long time. Thanks for sharing your thoughts bro.

One more question. Would you mind sharing your exegesis on the sheep and goats judgment passage in Matthew 25? I'd love to read your thoughts on that too. Thanks in advance.

 

I cover this stuff in the second half of my book, but honestly, it doesn't usually go over very well here.  My theory is not compatible with the pre, mid, post or even the pre-wrath theories.  So usually when I present something a little different, it just gets thrown out like the baby with the bath-water, because it doesn't fit in with what many people are being taught these days.  It seems everyone has there own way of understanding the end-times.  I'll sometimes throw in my two cents, but there's a lot to this stuff, and its very difficult trying to understand things in bits and pieces.  Sometimes I feel like its just a waste of time.  I'll pop in from time to time watching people spinning the same ole wheels, asking the same ole questions and getting lots of the same answers.  There are too many assumptions, misconceptions and preconceived ideas being taught today, so when I say something different, I guess I come off sounding silly or like I'm out there in left field.  So this is probably not a good idea.

 

But I will say this.  The sheep and goats judgment is the answer to the last part of the disciple's question in Matt. 24:3, about the sign of the end of the (age).  You don't want to start your studies there, though, because it's like beginning your reading at the back of a book.  It's the very last part of His answer to their question.  It's important to understand the sign of His coming first, and He left us many valuable clues hidden in the previous parables.  And remember, judgment beings with the house of the Lord, then the nations (sheep & goats).  After this comes the millennial reign.

 

I hope that helps.

 

Cheers 

[Izzel]

Revelation 12:17

And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Edited January 2, 2014 by Izzel